A Question About Faction

[nevilshute]

Hello there,

So I'm trying to work out something and it appears that Wiki is wrong.

Let me explain. According to this wikipost: http://wiki.project1999.com/Faction

the intervals are:

Scowls = -2000 to -1050
Threatening = -1049 to -700

...and so on.

I logged in today and conned 'threateningly' inside Chardok.

I then went to Droga and proceeded to kill 45 mobs (keeping count) and they are supposed - again according to what I can read on wiki - to yield +10 faction each with Brood of Di'Zok.

So, those 45 kills ought to have added 450 faction to my standing. As I was threateningly I would at the very worst have been -1049. Add 450 to -1049 is = -599 which should land me straight into dubiously. It didn't, however and I was still threateningly. Perplexed I figured I was really close and so went back to Droga and killed another ~40 mobs. Gated back to Chardok again to find that I'm still threateningly.

Can anybody help me figure out which is wrong: the intervals listed on wiki or the +10 per mob in droga listed on wiki? Or my math-skilzz? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ele]

wiki table is incorrect

and the faction numbers listed on individual mob pages are pulled from Allakhazam as part of the wiki template builder and may not reflect the actual number used on P99.

[Ladros]

I would be partial to believing you and say that the faction numbers on the server are all sorts of fucked up ... but who knows right? I think there was a timeline in velious when they changed faction standings.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Ladros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think there was a timeline in velious when they changed faction standings.

Ally isn't supposed to be a faction level until the May 2001 patch (~3 months away).

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010508.html

[Gilder]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ally isn't supposed to be a faction level until the May 2001 patch (~3 months away).

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010508.html

I'm already regarded as an ally in Butcherblock?

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Gilder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm already regarded as an ally in Butcherblock?

Devs put it in well before it was due. Though I could see how trying to add in a new level of faction mid-stream could result in having to rewrite tons of quests and possibly messing up people's faction levels.

Velious quest armors were also supposed to start on the "king" factions (Yelinak, Tormax, Dain) rather than the city factions and only required indifferent meaning you could charm or sneak quest the armors.

[nevilshute]

So, ipso-facto... any idea what kind of work I'm looking at for breaking through to dubious? =)

[Ele]

Originally Posted by nevilshute [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, ipso-facto... any idea what kind of work I'm looking at for breaking through to dubious? =)

This thread last year said about 2000 goblins to get to dubious. It may have been from max kos though.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=171328

Grab a Snickers(TM).

[Daldaen]

The values listed on the wiki by Uthgaard are actually correct.

However almost EVERY faction hit value listed on the wiki is false. Those goblins should be +1 or +2 each. Not +10.

I went through a lot of the Velious raid mobs and updated their values based on live values, which Nilbog confirmed were updated in a recent patch.

[nevilshute]

Thank you all for the replies. Just a quick follow-up: Do you happen to know if anyone starts as 'threateningly' in chardok? Or does everybody start out as 'scowls'?

Just trying to work out how much I've done and how much I still need to do. Killed maybe ~100 goblins in droga, then checked for the first time in chardok and was 'threateningly'.