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Old 10-22-2015, 01:08 AM
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Default Question on black panther skin price

The armor looks nice and seems to sell well to monks. How come the skins are so cheap? I get that the yew brew runs around 100-200p, but are the other TS components expensive enough to warrant the cost of the armor if the skins are that cheap?

In any case, I have several skins but it seems like it would make more sense to gather the other parts and commission a tailor vs selling the skins for 75-100p each.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:18 AM
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:10 AM
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Yeah, the materials are just a couple hundred plat. The price difference is crafter markup. Had some pieces made recently where all the mats were provided and some crafters were asking for 2k per combine. If you are patient, you'll eventually find a crafter that will push their combine button for a reasonable price.
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:44 AM
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Mostly because it costs a ton per combine and has a trivial of like 64728472947372. You're not paying for the successful combine, you're paying for their cost. Which may have included 2-3 failed combines and lost mats in some cases.

If it costs 500 to do a combine and they charge 750 a piece, then if they fail a combine they have to sell two pieces to make up the loss. So theyve lost three sets of mats and they're only where they started.

They charge a big markup because its what it takes to make it worth their while.
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Old 10-22-2015, 08:45 AM
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I got a full set of armor from a guild tailor, but it was close to 50% failed combines, and she said I was lucky. ive also heard from another tailor that they failed 80% of haze panther skins they had tried combining from a stack they farmed. The fail rate is really high, so the price is high.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:08 AM
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Darth nailed it. Trivial is somewhere around 300 to 350 and the highest you can lvl tailoring is 255
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:14 AM
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Darth nailed it. Trivial is somewhere around 300 to 350 and the highest you can lvl tailoring is 255
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Old 10-22-2015, 11:10 AM
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Thanks that was the answer I was looking for [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dabble in some TSs and understand the need for mark up as well as the cost associated with getting to max skill in the first place. I wasn't aware the fail rate was so high. Prices still seem inflated a bit given the mat cost, but it's a sellers market and that isn't unreasonable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mostly I was just confused why the mats were selling to the tailors for so cheap when the final product is so expensive.

A crafter charging 2k a combine when all mats are provided ... That's just highway robbery. Burden of skill or no, clicking 'combine' alone shouldn't cost anyone 2k lol.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:55 PM
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A crafter charging 2k a combine when all mats are provided ... That's just highway robbery. Burden of skill or no, clicking 'combine' alone shouldn't cost anyone 2k lol.
Tailoring is the worst tradeskill so you're definitely paying for someone's misery of leveling that awful skill to 200+. They may be "just" pressing combine, but that single combine includes hundreds/thousands of hours of grinding, gathering, and combining.

It's like when you pay any skilled person to do anything. Yeah, sure, the plumber "only" replaced a leaking pipe that probably cost $3, but you're paying for his years of training and expertise to do it right. If you think that just pressing "combine" with a 200+ tailoring skill is so valueless, you're welcome to go level up tailoring yourself. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-23-2015, 07:16 PM
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To get my tailoring to 228 before Velious, it took me over 2 years and 100k+.Then probably another 60 or 80k for the rest of the way to 250. That time and expense is what I would be charging you for. Also, every piece I make is another item on the market to compete selling against, so I want a cut of the profit (usually 25% of current market value). If you're lucky, you'll save quite a bit compared to buying the full item. But I want the cost to sting enough to discourage mass production.
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