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Old 06-17-2015, 08:16 AM
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Default An open letter to GM staff regarding MQs

First of all, I realize that this thread will be border RnF. Just wanted to throw that out there ahead of time.

As everyone knows, staff no longer support multi-questing fails. As in, if you mess up - its your loss.

Staff do not support any form of scamming, and if caught actively scamming they will ban you. Sirken has however said on stream that if you are stupid enough to fall for a scam where you are trading someone an item because they "have something on their alt" and youre giving some level 1 character thousands of plat..etc. then its your own stupidity (I agree for the record.)

However, issues come into this with Multi-Questing. If you are selling a MQ of an item to someone, undoubtedly someone has to cough up first. Either the person MQing the item, or the person with the cash. What if you trade someone the cash and they don't have the full MQ and just do enough to mess up the MQ (thereby where staff wont support MQ fails) the person is out their money. Technically they have scammed you, but you really have no way of knowing.

This could go the other way around too (something that happened in my case). I had an agreed upon price with someone from a reputable raiding guild. I MQd the person the full cleric epic and then stopped hearing from them on any of their characters even when they were on-line. Thankfully, this is considered a form of scamming right now, but the most it did was get that person banned. The GMs won't go into that persons accounts and give me the payment, nor will they restore the items lost.

I guess if I were want to quit and wanna screw someone in the process I know how and there isn't really anything the person can do other than possibly be weary, but in the even of something that sounds fair - they would be none the wiser; just saying.

So the above sums up the negatives around scamming and MQing, and yes I've told people how they can even get away with it. However, if an epic piece drops on a raid and is MQable, the guild can have someone loot the piece and in future help one of their members in getting their epic without having get said piece again. This is very great functionality of MQs (helping people out).

However on this server, the majority of MQs are based on greed. People incessantly farming stuff like jboots mq, rogue epic, cleric epic, monk epic, shaman epic, chardok monk pipe, KC monk pipe.. etc. for the purpose of making money. I could also make honorable mentions of corpsing items, however that is not quite relevant to the rest of this post, but I am adding it anyways.

So my plight is this, and I am away I am guilty of the following as well. I am asking the following 2 considerations from GMs.

1. Prohibit the transaction of any items via MQ for the purpose of profit. It is not true the spirit of classic, and should be a bannable offense. If you and a buddy wanna each do a jboot farm for each others alts, thats one thing - but to camp jboots to make 6-7k should be prohibited, and if caught you should lose the item and get a warning. Further offenses should result in suspensions, leading up to banning. Theres a reason these items were NO DROP to begin with - lets stick to that reasoning otherwise they might as well not be.

2. Prohibit the corpsing of items for the purpose of greed. If you're camping a FBSS and get one, you leave the camp. You don't corpse the item and keep holding the camp. You give the camp up to the next person in line who was waiting for it. If after that person leaves and you were next in line and you had a chance to transfer or sell the FBSS - that still gives other people reasonable time to get into the camp without some family sharing 1 character and camping King Tranix for weeks on end.

I have not specifically shamed anyone in this post, that is not the purpose of this - or it truly would belong in RnF. I understand not everyone will agree with me and I ask that if you don't agree that you do so respectfully and with reasoning. I am open to the idea of this being a debate, so long as it is done professionally and appropriately without the need of introducing RnF elements such as trolling. I value anyone else's input on the matter, whether they agree with me or not.
 


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