Wizard vs Magician epic

[nuuki]

Hello guys

I like having an end goal in mind when playing and want to focus on wizard or magician, but wondering if someone can help me understand which class' epic is harder to obtain, and whether any changes to its difficulty are seen in the velious expansion.

Appreciate the help.

Thanks

[mr_jon3s]

Both are hard but a wizard doesn't really need his epic where a mage with epic is just insane dps. Once they revamp the planes months maybe years into velious it should be eaiser to get both.

[wycca]

Both are horrid to get right now. So much so that I'd not consider the epic for either class to be achievable if you're posting in this forum.

Eventually though, I believe Mage epic will be easier than Wizard epic for many people, since it gets moved off Inny to Minis/trash.

[nuuki]

Thanks guys for the response.

So both are super hard even if I played until 60 and joined a guild? Is the epic only available to just a select few people?

wycca would that make the magician epic much easier or are there other bottlenecks too?

And how come you say wizard doesn't really need the epic? It seems pretty great to me, or is it not?

[dafier]

On live, years ago...

Speaking ONLY for mage epic:

I achieved 2 mage epics. Both were after they moved the earth staff drop off of Inny to the Arch Mage mini in hate. (that time frame)

Over all I think it's not bad at all. You have to be prepared to camp....days if not many hours for items. And, for the most part you need help from others to take down specific mobs. But as of right now on this server, the era, I think the most difficult parts would be PoS Isle 7 crown (which can be purchased with PP) and Inny for the Earth staff.

Autropos isn't too bad if you have a couple groups and HOPEFULLY he will have the staff in hand.

Anyway, if you have a influence in guild and people are willing to help, then I think this would be not as bad as you think.

Another point.... I heard Inny can only be tagged by certain people from certain guilds. That is a pain .....a big one.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by nuuki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks guys for the response.

So both are super hard even if I played until 60 and joined a guild? Is the epic only available to just a select few people?

wycca would that make the magician epic much easier or are there other bottlenecks too?

And how come you say wizard doesn't really need the epic? It seems pretty great to me, or is it not?

Wizard epic is VERY nice however they epic is for pure stat base increases only.

Mage epic is stat base increase and a pet that is a absolute monster.

Mage >>>>>>>> Wizard

When talking about epic and class benefits.

[Colgate]

? the wizard epic is a free 800 point rune that you can use to manastone and/or mana robe to med up super fast, not to mention the rune itself gives +3 mana regen

hardly just a stat increase

[maskedmelon]

The issues here for Mage epic are due to endgame congestion. Still achievable though. Just need to get 60, grow a beard, put on a diaper and app to TMO. Celsius launch may ease things a bi, followed by revamp which will do the same.

[nuuki]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live, years ago...

Speaking ONLY for mage epic:

I achieved 2 mage epics. Both were after they moved the earth staff drop off of Inny to the Arch Mage mini in hate. (that time frame)

Over all I think it's not bad at all. You have to be prepared to camp....days if not many hours for items. And, for the most part you need help from others to take down specific mobs. But as of right now on this server, the era, I think the most difficult parts would be PoS Isle 7 crown (which can be purchased with PP) and Inny for the Earth staff.

Autropos isn't too bad if you have a couple groups and HOPEFULLY he will have the staff in hand.

Anyway, if you have a influence in guild and people are willing to help, then I think this would be not as bad as you think.

Another point.... I heard Inny can only be tagged by certain people from certain guilds. That is a pain .....a big one.

Is the change from Innoruuk to the mini really that big of a deal? If a guild is fighting in the plane wouldn't they just kill everything anyway?

[nuuki]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issues here for Mage epic are due to endgame congestion. Still achievable though. Just need to get 60, grow a beard, put on a diaper and app to TMO. Celsius launch may ease things a bi, followed by revamp which will do the same.

So right now only this one guild has people with the mage epic? So far to be honest I have seen exactly 0 mages with their epics so I would totally believe that.