Dear Azrael

[Vharvest]

As many of you well know, all the blue rerollers/new players in Holocaust are in their low or mid-50's, currently working on gearing up and getting level 60. After watching various members of your guild attempting to train our raid in fear a few days ago, I couldn't help but smile. You were so desperate to stop the zerg that you resort to griefing, breaking the rules, and doing any shitty thing you can to stop us, and we still killed Cazic Thule. Your behavior was so pathetic and so digusting that Beastagor wouldn't even participate out of principle. That, too, made me smile.

The next night, I'm on the CoM ramparts with five other guildies. We're breezing through for about three hours, and then Lite zones in, so we go to the temple roof and sit, waiting. We are in teamspeak, basically wondering what kind of move he's gonna make. The general consensus is "here comes a train with black reavers," but two people in the group give him the benefit of the doubt and we pull a couple mobs.

Of course, expecting Lite or anyone else in Azrael to follow rules of the server is stupid on our part, because as soon as pull a greater war bone and two gyrating goos, Lite immediately rounds up the entire temple and trains us. After I die, he finds out that I'm bound on the temple roof, so he takes the run and runs in a circle, putting me in an XP death loop. I died 3 times in less than one minute.

So, we log for 15, wait for him to get bored, then come back in and Scuzzle's cleric rezzes us. We go back to XPing for 30 minutes.

Then, Coat zones in, uses his defensive disc, and trains us in the exact same spot. We power through it, rez again, and I ding in addition to a couple others getting their level.

We're all laughing on teamspeak because Azrael's only strategy is to train, grief, and generally make every out-of-range member of Holocaust rage quit.

However, I want you to know that what you're doing is having the exact opposite effect that you intend it to have. The more you abuse the game and break the rules because there are no GM's around, the more determined we will be to compete with you.

It's very obvious that you're all scared. The fear raid zerg lit a fire under your asses, and you are incapable of extinguishing that fire. Your trains and your exploits are only adding fuel to that fire.

It's literally the most hilarious shit ever. You are losing control, and you can't handle it, so you train.

Keep training. Keep trying to make our lives a living hell.

It only makes us more determined to make you squirm.

The trains are the only option you have left, so you'd better get off Forumquest, stop reading this, and look up some Holo members online. You're missing your opportunity to grief. You better get on it. There could be Holos dinging 60 this very moment.

Get rustled, nerds.

[ricquire]

+1

Nice to see new blood acknowledge the problem.

[Fame]

Originally Posted by Vharvest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I couldn't help but smile. You were so desperate to stop the zerg that you resort to griefing, breaking the rules, and doing any shitty thing you can to stop us, and we still killed Cazic Thule.

Originally Posted by Vharvest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get rustled, nerds.

Probably time to re-eval pal.

[heartbrand]

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[Clark]

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Idk what this is, but I'm offended.

[LulzSect]

OP TLDR: I'm mad.

[Agatha]

perfect time for the server to have absolutely no GM pressence either to hand out bans and suspensions for training, after throwing suspensions of us for "training" when we wern't even training.


what azrael is doing now is blatant trains. not even trying to hide it type of trains.

bums me out that the server staff got duped into setting azrael up as the new top guild... shitty.

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by Agatha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

perfect time for the server to have absolutely no GM pressence either to hand out bans and suspensions for training, after throwing suspensions of us for "training" when we wern't even training.


what azrael is doing now is blatant trains. not even trying to hide it type of trains.

bums me out that the server staff got duped into setting azrael up as the new top guild... shitty.

Have to stop you there, it was your own guild that turned in the evidence to have your leader banned and it's your officer's faults for not having a contingency plan for the likely situation that the guild gets disbanded. After nihilum got Nizzar banned, nihilum went it's seperate way. You had the opportunity to just reguild under an officer and resume business as usual without Nizzar.


Tldr nobody to blame for nihilum failing other than nihilum.

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have to stop you there, it was your own guild that turned in the evidence to have your leader banned and it's your officer's faults for not having a contingency plan for the likely situation that the guild gets disbanded. After nihilum got Nizzar banned, nihilum went it's seperate way. You had the opportunity to just reguild under an officer and resume business as usual without Nizzar.


Tldr nobody to blame for nihilum failing other than nihilum.

I find it so odd that you're projecting blame on people in Nihilum for almost wholly deciding to make the server not suck anymore (i.e. not reforming immediately) but aligning yourself with people who used the exact same reason for why Azrael saved the server.

I don't really remember what was said in Elderan's thread about "the real reason" for Nihilum getting dissolved, but he's pretty big on misinterpretation.

Weeks prior to the disbanding, the Danes made a power play on the officers of Nihilum, presenting an "us or HB" ultimatum to the officer core. Nizzar buckled like a pussy - most of us didn't care about HB's efforts or time put in at that point because it was insignificant and small for the most part. As a player, he wasn't important to any battle (they made sure he didn't function in that capacity the second time around).

What we didn't enjoy and were pissed about was the officers letting the Danes actually pull that shit. The appropriate response just based on principle would have been to punish the Danes immediately for even thinking that was an okay thing to do and to leave HB where he was at. And I actually never disliked the Danes - but that was a dumb as fuck thing to pull, and the fact that it worked was even more astonishing.

Obviously HB was mad when he was booted, and we all know the rest. But yeah, there were definitely some fractious relationships in that guild, hence why there wasn't just another reformed guild with the same people.

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I find it so odd that you're projecting blame on people in Nihilum for almost wholly deciding to make the server not suck anymore (i.e. not reforming immediately) but aligning yourself with people who used the exact same reason for why Azrael saved the server.

I don't really remember what was said in Elderan's thread about "the real reason" for Nihilum getting dissolved, but he's pretty big on misinterpretation.

Weeks prior to the disbanding, the Danes made a power play on the officers of Nihilum, presenting an "us or HB" ultimatum to the officer core. Nizzar buckled like a pussy - most of us didn't care about HB's efforts or time put in at that point because it was insignificant and small for the most part. As a player, he wasn't important to any battle (they made sure he didn't function in that capacity the second time around).

What we didn't enjoy and were pissed about was the officers letting the Danes actually pull that shit. The appropriate response just based on principle would have been to punish the Danes immediately for even thinking that was an okay thing to do and to leave HB where he was at. And I actually never disliked the Danes - but that was a dumb as fuck thing to pull, and the fact that it worked was even more astonishing.

Obviously HB was mad when he was booted, and we all know the rest. But yeah, there were definitely some fractious relationships in that guild, hence why there wasn't just another reformed guild with the same people.

That's a lot of stuff that I didn't know but where is the part about me being wrong?