Bard free server?

[Akain]

Any chance on having a bard free server?
Yeah, it fits the rules that high level bards can kite around mobs 1/2 their level in pretty much all flat outdoor zones but I don't remember half my deaths coming from being hit by some bards train. Even in lowbie dungeons there's bards pulling the whole zone. The sad thing is half the bards try to be cool about it.
Is there any other game that has the same non-linear freedom and level of difficulty (penalty of death) that this simulation has? Thanks

[Bboboo]

Real life kinda has the worst bards at the moment so I'd rule that one out too.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Lol

[Glenzig]

We have to end this blatant racism against bards. We have rights!!!

[daasgoot]

please don't quit, your tears are delicious.

[zanderklocke]

I always sort of feel guilt-struck by these posts, as if I'm somehow responsible for my class on the server. I think there is a way to play bards in a non-disruptive way and still do the things that only bards can do like pull a fair amount of mobs.

However, I never feel like there is full context in these type of posts. Did the original poster talk to the bard and see if they could work out something so the bard was not taking every last mob available in the zone or in areas where the disgruntled player was leveling?

What is the dividing or blurred line between a bard being disruptive and not respecting other players, and other players just whining out of jealousy and not really trying to work out something with the bard on an individual level? In some zones like Overthere, it's a common joke/mockery for people to come out swinging at bards in OOC; perhaps this is sometimes deserved.

On the opposing side, I'm not really a big fan of the whole argument, "Go level somewhere else where bards aren't leveling." People should play the game where they want to.

I guess my overall feeling is that the problem lies both with bards that don't really respect other players' leveling areas and those leveling in common bard kiting areas, that instead of trying talk to the bard through tells, jump to inflammatory comments in OOC or even to immediate petition, which then wastes GMs time over something that could be solved by simple communication.

Just play nice everyone and share the sandbox!

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always sort of feel guilt-struck by these posts, as if I'm somehow responsible for my class on the server. I think there is a way to play bards in a non-disruptive way and still do the things that only bards can do like pull a fair amount of mobs.

However, I never feel like there is full context in these type of posts. Did the original poster talk to the bard and see if they could work out something so the bard was not taking every last mob available in the zone or in areas where the disgruntled player was leveling?

What is the dividing or blurred line between a bard being disruptive and not respecting other players, and other players just whining out of jealousy and not really trying to work out something with the bard on an individual level? In some zones like Overthere, it's a common joke/mockery for people to come out swinging at bards in OOC; perhaps this is sometimes deserved.

On the opposing side, I'm not really a big fan of the whole argument, "Go level somewhere else where bards aren't leveling." People should play the game where they want to.

I guess my overall feeling is that the problem lies both with bards that don't really respect other players' leveling areas and those leveling in common bard kiting areas, that instead of trying talk to the bard through tells, jump to inflammatory comments in OOC or even to immediate petition, which then wastes GMs time over something that could be solved by simple communication.

Just play nice everyone and share the sandbox!

I would add that personally, whenever people send me tells asking if I PL for plat I tell them "sure, we can work that out, but keep in mind I'm not going to pull the entire zone for you because I don't want to screw other peoples' exp; I'll charge you significantly less because I also don't want to screw you, but it's going to be slower."

100% of the time until this week they always kind of stuttered and hesitated and then never got back to me. This week I finally found someone who'd take it.


So maybe some or most but demonstrably not all bards are part of the problem, but maybe part of the problem is also the pressure people are putting on bards. PULL MORE MOBS Y U ARE SO BAD PL etc. I'm fortunate enough not to give a shit about the plat I'll miss out on if I can't get PL customers, but I'm sure there are bards out there who think they really have to have to have to grab that platinum, as much as possible as fast as possible, and the only way to do that is to appease these voracious exp vacuums who are paying them.

[Jauna]

Anyone remember when in the timeline Bard dot songs were nerfed to where it does no damage if the target is moving? This whole bard taking up entire zones was a big thing for a bit back on live as well.. and if I remember right the no damage when target is moving still stands today on Live

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always sort of feel guilt-struck by these posts, as if I'm somehow responsible for my class on the server. I think there is a way to play bards in a non-disruptive way and still do the things that only bards can do like pull a fair amount of mobs.

However, I never feel like there is full context in these type of posts. Did the original poster talk to the bard and see if they could work out something so the bard was not taking every last mob available in the zone or in areas where the disgruntled player was leveling?

What is the dividing or blurred line between a bard being disruptive and not respecting other players, and other players just whining out of jealousy and not really trying to work out something with the bard on an individual level? In some zones like Overthere, it's a common joke/mockery for people to come out swinging at bards in OOC; perhaps this is sometimes deserved.

On the opposing side, I'm not really a big fan of the whole argument, "Go level somewhere else where bards aren't leveling." People should play the game where they want to.

I guess my overall feeling is that the problem lies both with bards that don't really respect other players' leveling areas and those leveling in common bard kiting areas, that instead of trying talk to the bard through tells, jump to inflammatory comments in OOC or even to immediate petition, which then wastes GMs time over something that could be solved by simple communication.

Just play nice everyone and share the sandbox!

Some bards are alright. Some are just fugging idiots. IMO if you want to swarm kite you do it somewhere unpopulated.

I ran to LOIO the other day, zoned in and within 5 seconds before I could bind I had been killed by a bard zoning into Fir Vie after failing a kite. So got back on boat, ran back to LOIO, killed two mobs and was regenning at safespot and got trained again by the same bard.

Moral of the story, if theres a bunch of other players in a place like the windmill in LOIO, firstly don't kite there and secondly if you do and you fail then fuggin die instead killing everyone else on the way out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ikonoclastia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some bards are alright. Some are just fugging idiots. IMO if you want to swarm kite you do it somewhere unpopulated.

I ran to LOIO the other day, zoned in and within 5 seconds before I could bind I had been killed by a bard zoning into Fir Vie after failing a kite. So got back on boat, ran back to LOIO, killed two mobs and was regenning at safespot and got trained again by the same bard.

Moral of the story, if theres a bunch of other players in a place like the windmill in LOIO, firstly don't kite there and secondly if you do and you fail then fuggin die instead killing everyone else on the way out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So bards are the only class that shouldn't accidently kill people with trains? And why did you go all the way to LoIo and not get bound in either FV or OT?