Rat Race (New AGC Game Idea)

[zforrestal]

Hello again!
The idea: Players place their bets (I was thinking 1k ante, subject to chance) in EC Tunnel. Each player who placed a bet has a chance to win the prize. First person to hail the character I announce to find wins the 90% of the prize. (10% for setting up the game, percentage subject to change)

All players will be required to make level one characters for the race.

Groups are allowed, but only people who have placed bets can /hail and claim the prize. If you want to group and split the cash that is allowed. Splitting the cash is on your own accord. Cash goes to the first person to /hail.

People are going to say porters and trackers are always going to win. Besides being able to use outside sources to help my other idea was to lower the payout if the character can port/track.

Let me know if you are interested in something of this nature and any ideas to tweak it. Thank you! - This is a rough draft of the idea open to suggestions!

Or maybe a Fungi Tunic Rat Race same concept but 5k buy-in?

(Also everyone starts in Tunnel at the start of the race)

[Twelveguage]

I remember something like this being done back on live when i played. One of the main requirement they had was that all participants had to be level 1 chars. Still had people trying to deck out the level 1's in whatever they thought would allow them to win, but it evened the playing field as far as self buffs/abilities went. My second suggestion is if you don't being a level 1 a requirement, then avoid cities so that for instance iksars aren't required to run into Freeport or anything else run into Cabilis (that run from ec tun would be a helluva long race though) mass amounts of level 1's running through dreadlands does sound like an entertaining afternoon to me.

[zforrestal]

I wouldn't mind doing it with level 1 only, and actually sounds like the best idea to do. So lets add that to the rules for now. Any other ideas, please comment!

[zforrestal]

Ok here's what I've gotten so far for the idea.

Bet 5k (Minimum 30 players)
Everyone makes a level 1 Human Warrior and meets me in EC Tunnel.
Find the Target (A player somewhere out in the world)
First one to Hail Target Player wins Fungi Tunic.
Use any means necessary to find the Target (Only people who bet can claim the prize)
(By any means necessary, no breaking any p99 rules. No 2 boxing!)

I will declare the area where the Target can be found before the start of the race. The Target will be moving somewhere inside the zone called and will not move outside of the zone. (This is also not limited to being invis, having movement speed, disguised as something else)

Players can bet side bets on who they think will win the race.

If you can think of any other rules I should add please comment. I'd like to do the Fungi Rat Race soon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[August]

So if i'm reading this right, you basically just want to get 150k+ for your fungi tunic citing the additional 50k+ as your right because you have a character logged in somewhere that needs to be hailed by a bunch of other people who by and large are gambling 5k away?

To put this into perspective, Let's think about putting this into a return on investment. You know that when you gamble, your odds of winning are less than 50% (why else would there be casinos...) and this can be easily represented as a ROI per gamble-game.

For instance, there are a ton of people out there who do casinos... What's the standard? 565+ you double your bet, maybe the 777 gets you 10X your bet?

So, put 1000 down. There's a 43.4% chance that you will win 2000. There's a .1% chance you will win 10000pp.

That's .434*2000 + .001*100000 = 878pp back for every 1000pp you spend.

Now let's look at what you're proposing. 30 people minimum, 5k entry fee. Let's suppose value of a fungi tunic is sitting at 100k(that it is).

With 30 people, assuming everything is equal, you have a 1/30 chance of winning a tunic.

Your ROI for the game is 1/30*1000 = 3333.33pp for each person, and you're charging them 5k each. Let's normalize to get to 1k:

(3333.33)/5 = 666.666pp

So in this gamble game, you can expect to get 666.666pp (devil) for every 1k that you spend. Your standard casino is operating on margins twice as slim. And that's assuming only 30 people (minimum!!!!) sign up. Your odds of winning get lower and the prize payout does not increase.

Verdict = Greedy.

Got it. would not play.

[Swish]

The best player run events are free events, some even put their own pixels in as a prize etc.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The best player run events are free events, some even put their own pixels in as a prize etc.

Second.

Enough with these gamble games. Could have sworn there was talk a while back about these being a major front for illicit Runes Mithril Tunic farming operations.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Second.

Enough with these gamble games. Could have sworn there was talk a while back about these being a major front for illicit Runes Mithril Tunic farming operations.

This is truth. Also similar deal with the Bazaar, players who bought Plat would put up Fishing Grubs @ 250k and would magically have a very nice player buy 4 fishing grubs from them for 1000k. TOTALLY LEGIT.

Also since these games are merely a mode of profit for the OP, please use the EC Tunnel section of forums for any further gambling game ideas.

[Swish]

I think the thread was well intended, but I can see the concern [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[zforrestal]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Verdict = Greedy.

Got it. would not play.

I want to point out, I'm never hiding the fact that there is a profit to be made. I think making a profit on setting up an event like this regularly shouldn't come as a surprise. It takes time and effort to make sure everyone who plays has an even chance at winning, and just time in general to set up. Profits are only going to be used to set up other events, and for the free giveaways I already provide. Hate all you want on the fact I want to make money on providing a fun experience and to provide more.

Call it Greedy or whatever you want to call it, I'm just trying to set up fun for people in EC. I have no use for plat except to offer games like this to people for fun.