NPC Spawn Issue: [Epic Mob] Zordak Ragefire

[Ele]

As of now the server has seen a single Zordak Ragefire and Nagafen has already respawned and been killed. I wanted to go ahead and bring up this issue so other clerics could weigh in on this topic.

Nagafen was killed at approximately 2:00pm est on Monday. Ragefire spawned approximately 2:00pm est on Wednesday (about 48 hours later). (If an IB cleric has more specific information they wish to share, please post below).There was no other Ragefire after Wednesday and Lord Nagafen has respawned and been killed again.

Multiple Ragefires per a Lord Nagafen
The main issue we would address is whether or not Zordak Ragefire is even capable of spawning more than once after Lord Nagafen dies here on P99. The lack of any spawn for over 4.5 days after the first Ragefire on January 4, 2011, indicates that this may indeed be the current implementation on P99 where we get 1 Ragefire per 1 Nagafen. This not classic by any stretch, there are a multitude of examples of Ragefire spawning 2, 3, 4, even 5 times between Nagafens.

There are posts from EqClerics in late 2000/early 2001 (the is era appropriate and contemporaneous as epics were implemented September 2000, First Cleric to complete was on October 6, 2000, by Kerania on Tunare @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8407) indicating that Zordak Ragefire can spawn anywhere from 0-72 hours after Lord Nagafen dies and then spawning again after each Zordak Ragefire dies until Lord Nagafen spawns again.

11-01-2000 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8548

He poped at least 3 times this weekend on the rathe with about a 24 hour spawn cycle.

On Terris Thule he has spawned almost like clockwork...22-23 hours roughly. Thurs near midnight, fri at 11, sat around 9, sun around 7:30, Mon around 6:30, Tues pop around 5:30.

That is 6 in a row and most spawns were killed by people that had already cleared FGs knowing roughly when he'd spawn and were sitting in Naggie's lair waiting for him to pop...and he didn't let anyone down.

On Luclin, he has been spawning on a 24 hour timer.

Ragefire spawned 3 days in a row on Quellious, each time he was taken out arond 9pm pst.. i was the third to kill him and it was quite relieving to have won after such a quest.

11-08-2000 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8549
This thread contains multiple examples of multiple spawns between Nagafens across several servers.

3 days (basically, ~65 hours) after Nagafen dies, Zordak will spawn. Once killed, Zordak will respawn slightly less than 24 hours later, pressumably until Nagafen respawns or the server/zone goes down.

On Tribunal we have seen 24 hours from death of Nagafen to spawn of Zordak, with subsequent Zordaks respawning 24 hours after death.

Have yet to pop down the day after a Nagafen kill and Zordak not be there...

Same on Terris Thule.

24-ish hours after Naggy died, Zordak was up. And every 22-23 hours later he was back up. People would clear FGs and wait in lair till he spawned and it was 22-23 hours every time and people were sitting in lair to actually see Zordak spawn.

Zordik spawned 10 hours after Naggy was taken down on Povar, and then a every 23-24 hours after that as long as the FGs are dead.

my point in my other post is that the first spawn is from 0 - 72 hours most likely.

The earliest I can document is 2 hours with the longest being 65.

After his first death he appears to be a 23 hour spawn.

11-27-2000 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8595

Pre-patch zordak worked like this:

Kill nagafen, Zordak pops on a 0-72 hour timer. (I personally confirmed pops of 2 and 67 hours) It has nothing to do with the FG being killed.

After Zordak is killed the first time after a naggy death, it was a 23 hour spawn, apparantly until nagafen pops again.

Some people are saying that on test Zordak was only popping once per nag slaying, and that may have made it to live, but I haven't hunted him since we got 3 of our guild clerics sprinklers.

11-28-2000 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8595

n Bristlebane server... post patch.

Zordak spawned roughly 24h after Nagafen's death. Since then (Friday or Sat was Nag's death) he has spawned approximately 24h upon his own death. He has spawned 3 times since the last death of Nagafen. I just led a group last night against him for my flail.

Nothing seems to have changed in his spawn from my experience the last few days.

This is really good news for clerics, as compared to him spawning only once between Nagafens. It would be horrible to get to the end of this quest and have to race to Zordak because he only spawns roughly once every seven days.

01-31-2001 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8795

When Nagafen died the other day ragefire popped almost immediately. He spawned again, I'm not sure of the exact time, but it was more than 24 hours, and then again about 35 hours after that. The last spawn I am certain of because my guild mate was in the room when he popped and we killed him soon after. (Morell Thule)

I think his spawn window has been increased. When our guilds' first clerics got their sprinklers I'm pretty sure Ragefire was 0-72 hours after nag was dead and 2nd and subsequent Ragefires 0-24 hours after that. That seemed to be supported by what most had experienced on other servers.

Nagafen was killed on the Rathe Saturday night about 1am EST I believe. He might have died a bit later though not by much. Ragefire was killed at 5pm EST Monday. We cleared FG's twice and at 2:30am EST last night still no Ragefire. So it seems now all ragefirespawns are 0-72 hours after nag and at least 0-36 hours, maybe more, after the lastRagefire.

03-06-2001 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8844

Last weekend after the server was taken down on Friday morning, a couple different guilds tried to take out Naggy and failed.
Saturday he was dropped around noon CST. 3 hours later Ragefire popped and was promptly slaughtered.

03-20-2001 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...6&postcount=14

Showing multiple Ragefires between Nagafen spawns.

Naggy was killed on thursday at 9:45 pm pst.

ragefire was killed at 4pm pst on friday (spawn probably an hr before this.)

ragefire spawned at 10 am on sunday, killed at 11 am on sunday.

so between the time of death of naggy and the first spawn was 18 hrs. Beteween the first and second ragefire spawn was 42 hrs.

The most i have seen him spawn was 5 times in 7 days.

07-19-2001 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9079

Last night I was lucky enough to witness Mr. Zordak Ragefire spawn a mere 6 hours after Naggy's death. I've been dreading this camp for months and finally decided to just do it! Yeah Me!

We had the same thing happen with this last patch. Killed Naggy with our twinks. Ragefire spawned 6 hours later.

Nagafen's P99 window and its affect on P99 Zordak
The other issue we seek clarification on is whether or not Nagafen's non-classic 96 hour window affects Zordak Ragefire's spawn timer. There are posts from the appropriate time period indicating that Nagafen being dead is the only thing that affects Ragefires chance to pop, i.e. Ragefire is not depopped by Nagafen spawning both can be alive at the same time.

10-20-2000 @ http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8491

A cleric on the Tribunal was actually fighting Zordak when --- Nagafen spawned --- and told everyone to leave the zone --- ouch, back to square one.

The immediate next post correcting the recollection of the quote above:

Greetings!

Actually Naelana had not yet turned in the item to Zordak, so nothing lost but time waiting for somebody to take out Nagafen again.

The funny thing was Nagafen aggroed Zordak with the AoE...

Zorak Ragefire shouts, 'You shall not evade me Lord_Nagafen00!'

The lead GM had to intervene before Zordak successfully soloed the dragon

It is well established that Nagafen did not have a 96 hour window on live, but for raid/CS purposes a window has been implemented on P99. If Zordak's window is tied in any way to Nagafen's window, then it will severely affect the amount of Zordak's that this server sees.


I would invite other clerics to please include any additional research or era appropriate findings to further this discussion.