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Old 04-06-2013, 01:13 PM
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Default Western Wastes - a few questions.

I have a few questions regarding westwastes. You may assist me by helping to research and discuss the following. I know some of these existed, but I need to know specifically.. should they be in at launch? If not, approximately when to add if still within the Velious timeframe.

1. <s> shipwrecked pirates. How long should the Breezeboot's Frigid Gnasher quest work?</s> Throughout the timeline. Plank no longer spawns June 2001.

<s>Is Engineer Toc classic or did he replace Breezeboot Swordrattler? </s>

<s>2. The Dragon Sage. Was he added with Velious release? If not, when. Involved with dragonsbane.</s> march 2001

<s>3. Quest Notorious Mercenaries. Julius Oresco/Grenth Drakesbane. When was this added?</s> 2002

<s>4. Fusibility Research (Strength of the Elements) Makil Rargon/Guardian Kozzalym. When was this added?</s> August 2001

5. Quest Leuz's Task. Should this exist with the Scout and Kromzek warriors?

6. Shardwing Courier. Quest Wenglawks the Traitor.

<s>7. Few npcs, are these classic from Velious launch?: drake outcast, scar guardian, rogue dire wolf.</s>

<s>8. What is the name of Strong Horn's Knockback spell?</s>

<s>9. What about belly casting dragons? Are there any in WW? I don't have anything to test this with. </s>


It saves me a great deal of time to continue working in lieu of researching.

Thanks.
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Old 04-06-2013, 01:36 PM
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2. The Dragon Sage. Was he added with Velious release? If not, when. Involved with dragonsbane.
I have no direct supporting evidence but I don't remember him being there at launch.

Velious released in December of 2000

This is the patch notes added the BANE spells
http://www.waringmcmarrin.com/?page_id=54

Also the first entry comment for him on Ala wasn't until November or 2001


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*** Patch Day ***

*Spell Changes and Additions*

- A new teleportation spell has been added to the game for both Druids
and Wizards. These are self-only gate spells to the Dreadlands. These
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- Increased the drop rate on some Kunark spells to coincide with the
narrowing of the creatures carrying those spells as the game evolves.

- Wizards now have access to a new type of spell that only works on
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:08 PM
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1. shipwrecked pirates. How long should the Breezeboot's Frigid Gnasher quest work? Is Engineer Toc classic or did he replace Breezeboot Swordrattler?
There is no official mention of anything in the patch notes that I can locate about the removal of the quest. As far as I can find the quest wasn't removed but the Seaworthy Planking was what alluded people.

Here is a comment from March 2001, 4 months after Launch confirming they found it
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Here 2 comments one in early April saying he spoke with a GM and the quest was on hold. One on April 17th, 2001(which was a patch day) stating that he picked up the plank although I searched through the April 17th notes and there was no note of a change.
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This is a comment from 2002 well after other expansions launched. stating that the plank still spawns and its a triggered spawn and not a static spawn.

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Old 04-06-2013, 02:17 PM
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I have a few questions regarding westwastes. You may assist me by helping to research and discuss the following. I know some of these existed, but I need to know specifically.. should they be in at launch? If not, approximately when to add if still within the Velious timeframe.

1. shipwrecked pirates. How long should the Breezeboot's Frigid Gnasher quest work? Is Engineer Toc classic or did he replace Breezeboot Swordrattler?

2. The Dragon Sage. Was he added with Velious release? If not, when. Involved with dragonsbane.

3. Quest Notorious Mercenaries. Julius Oresco/Grenth Drakesbane. When was this added?

4. Fusibility Research (Strength of the Elements) Makil Rargon/Guardian Kozzalym. When was this added?

5. Quest Leuz's Task. Should this exist with the Scout and Kromzek warriors?

6. Shardwing Courier. Quest Wenglawks the Traitor.

7. Few npcs, are these classic from Velious launch?: drake outcast, scar guardian, rogue dire wolf.

It saves me a great deal of time to continue working in lieu of researching.

Thanks.
1: The broken part was the Iceclad ground spawn, the rest was intact all through PoP, if you had a banked plank you could MQ it. Last documented find of the Iceclad item was on Jun 28 2001, so 6 months after release.

2: Wrath spells qere completed on 4/4/01 according to Graffe.com archive. http://web.archive.org/web/200104111...sts/quests.htm

unrelated: I like where this guy's priorities are:
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Dragon Sage By: Anonymous
Posted @ Tue, Sep 11th 5:17 PM 2001 Score: Default[2.00]
I found an npc named the dragon sage in this zone. He gave me a long history on norrath and talked about Veeshan and the the age of scale, etc. I talked to him for a while and he told me about a plant that dragons fear, but he gave me a coin to give to a Giant Tomekeeper and that he would know more.
3: http://web.archive.org/web/200301100...tml?item=17617 (says power required) entry of the quest is in 2002

4: Completed: Mon Nov 5 14:08:17 2001, first report of Malik at Posted @ Wed, Oct 24th 1:57 AM 2001, Chardok patch was added on October 8, 2001, so maybe it was added at the same time?

5: earliest comment july 16 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/200112242...tml?quest=1255

6: Quest existed and completed by April 04 2001 on alla, see comments, cannot read archive of safehouse due to robot.txt: http://web.archive.org/web/200208231...html?item=5527

7: drake outcast/rogue dire wolf: can't find a proof of existence prior to 2007
scar guardian: 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/200205272....shtml?id=7769
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Dragon Sage By: Anonymous
Posted @ Tue, Sep 11th 5:17 PM 2001 Score: Default[2.00]
I found an npc named the dragon sage in this zone. He gave me a long history on norrath and talked about Veeshan and the the age of scale, etc. I talked to him for a while and he told me about a plant that dragons fear, but he gave me a coin to give to a Giant Tomekeeper and that he would know more.
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Old 04-06-2013, 02:27 PM
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4. Fusibility Research (Strength of the Elements) Makil Rargon/Guardian Kozzalym. When was this added?
The earliest mention I can find of this quest is Sept 11 - 2001, roughly a month before the launch of Luclin. Sept 11 was also a patch date but there are no notes that I could find of a quest being added. Link below

http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-3899.html
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5. Quest Leuz's Task. Should this exist with the Scout and Kromzek warriors?

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I agree, though I'll fight you tooth and nails for it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And did you all notice...it's not LORE, so you can actually wear 2 if you can win 2 of 'em! Bummer no effect, but that would make it godly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 23 2001 at 5:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dey shoulda named dis item "Bracer of Strife"

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hehe... because it's .1 everyone and their mothers is going to be saying this is monk gear, even though all the classes listed would probably kill for it.


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Well let's be honest.. Monks first look at weight then we look at the other stuff, so yes this IS monk gear.. But it's also war,pal,rng,.. oh hell, you can read..

This is simply a Fab Melee bracer.

http://web.archive.org/web/201211030...html?item=5738

At the very bottom. This is the earliest ive found searching for a hour. 5 months or so after release.
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The earliest mention I can find of this quest is Sept 11 - 2001, roughly a month before the launch of Luclin. Sept 11 was also a patch date but there are no notes that I could find of a quest being added. Link below

http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-3899.html
I believe the quest was added after the GM event handing out the Scepter Al'Kabor was completed on all servers.

http://www.mobhunter.com/mobhunter_a...177320543.html

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6456 (scroll to bottom for first post)

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First post about Sceptre Artifact 8/6/2001: Makes the Wizard Epic look like a rusty mace
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:43 PM
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Thanks for the research help.

It's often confusing when to include npcs/quests. Like, just because it took someone months to figure it out, does that mean it wasn't available at Velious launch?

More opinions and research on these would help. I'd like some type of consensus prior to launch. If it's still questionable down the line, at least we tried!

westwastes is 95% complete now aside from these questions. The rest is loot and pathing specifics that I'm finishing.
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