Building a Mosque??? WTF

[Eternal-Elf]

So with the recent cluster fuck of opinions on here given by people that carry absoletly no weight in the real world (besides the 385lbs they carry to and from the fridge to the computer)

I'd like to see what peoples opinions are on the Mosque being build at ground zero in New York.

First I'd like to say I am not against their constitutional right to build it there.....I am against their purpose of building it there.

How did he get 100 million dollars in a year after waiting tables......
Why do they want to do it........
What are their intentions???

Eh...

[purist]

Shut the fuck up.

[Eternal-Elf]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shut the fuck up.

Very constructive comment. A Tribute to your intelligence bro. Congrats!

[Itchybottom]

True Muslims, not the ones that misquote the Qu'ran for their own goals, are usually wonderful people. I say that we as a country you need to learn to respect more religions that don't fall under Judeo-Christianism morality. I'm hoping that they keep things positive and open some eyes, but I'm worried that the opposition is going to be too heavy. I've been by the Islamic Center in Tacoma a few times, and someone reciting Takbir and the entire crowd erupting in Allahu Akhbar is kind of inspiring. It seems more heart felt than amen, or halleluja.

Capital isn't that tough to raise, and I really don't care about their motives or intent, I just want the United States of America to wake up before it's just a footnote in a history book. "The Decline of the Great American Empire", is not a book I'd want to have to read.

[Kutter]

be on the bookshelves in less than 20 years.

chinese bookshelves.

[Abacab niggah]

Originally Posted by Kutter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

be on the bookshelves in less than 20 years.

chinese bookshelves.

Made in Taiwan like a Nintendo cartridge

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Itchybottom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True Muslims, not the ones that misquote the Qu'ran for their own goals, are usually wonderful people. I say that we as a country you need to learn to respect more religions that don't fall under Judeo-Christianism morality. I'm hoping that they keep things positive and open some eyes, but I'm worried that the opposition is going to be too heavy. I've been by the Islamic Center in Tacoma a few times, and someone reciting Takbir and the entire crowd erupting in Allahu Akhbar is kind of inspiring. It seems more heart felt than amen, or halleluja.

Capital isn't that tough to raise, and I really don't care about their motives or intent, I just want the United States of America to wake up before it's just a footnote in a history book. "The Decline of the Great American Empire", is not a book I'd want to have to read.

the problem is that they aren't misquoting the qu'ran. american islam IS a very different culture than the islam of the middle east. islam in its simplest form is a very passive religion about personal relationship with god in america. in the middle east those relationships are extended outward towards others. the problem is that the qu'ran can be read both ways, and (without having to misquote it) you can very easily read the qu'ran as a violent text.

i don't hate american islam...but, when someone tells you that muslim jidhadists in the middle east are misreading the qur'an they are full of shit. they aren't misreading it...go read the surah of the sword, for example, and tell me otherwise:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)....." Surah 9:5

that isn't a misquote...MAYBE it isn't supposed to be taken literally in our times, but it isn't a misquote. there are many many verses that support this, too many in my opinion, to pretend that it is absent from the quran.

[Abacab niggah]

"They cometh for the head of the beast, to slay him and eat the fat of his gain, let he with word of flame, and followers of threatening gaze run rampant upon those who so greedily lie in sloth"- Abacab 14:2

[jelatin]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...t-company-trap

[Itchybottom]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

go read the surah of the sword, for example, and tell me otherwise:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)....." Surah 9:5

The full verse is

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

And by the teachings is meant to be taken with:

"And if they incline to peace, then incline to it and trust in Allah; surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing." Surah 8:61

It also loses some of it's meaning when translated to English, much like a Christian bible when compared to Septuagint text.

Grouping all of American-Islam into an extremist category is like grouping all Catholic priests into the category of child molesters. Maybe it's because I was raised Buddhist that I have a different viewpoint [and respect for all religions], but I'm just not seeing it.