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Loraen, L60/255 cha, L53 Ilis w/tash x10: average 118 seconds Loraen, L60/226 cha, L53 Ilis w/tash x5: average 93 seconds Loraen, L60/226 cha, L53 Ilis shaman w/tash x 11, average 75 seconds Loraen, L60/200 cha, L53 Ilis w/tash x10: average 139 seconds (1 outlier, without 109 seconds) Phinger, L60/217 cha, L46 skelly w/tash x13: average 415 seconds ------ So I have been meaning to do this test for a while (255 vs 200 cha) and finally decided to stop procrastinating. I jewelcrafted up some charisma gear (platinum/electrum star ruby stuff) and swapped in my Crude Stein instead of the Insignia Protector which enabled me to get 255 cha at the cost of about 150hp/30AC. I charmed and dispelled Gruplinort's PH until it broke charm and killed me (weaponized/hasted ilis wizards are no joke). Then I charmed the commander PH until it broke charm while I was clearing NG and killed me also. The biggest problem charming these guys wasn't the charm duration per se (I was quite surprised I could charm them for 2+ minutes at a time) it was their chain resisting stuns and mezzes. So I don't recommend charming L53 stuff, despite the fantastic dps. The raw data: 255 CHA: 0-1 minutes: 3, 1-2 minutes: 3, 2-3 minutes: 2, 3-4 minutes: 3, average: 1:58 (118 seconds) 199 CHA :0-1 minutes: 4, 1-2 minutes: 2, 2-3 minutes: 1, 3-4 minutes: 3 5+ minutes: 1, Average: 2:19 (139 seconds), Average w/out the outlier: 1:49 (109 seconds) Now I have done experiments before (basically parsed my long huge log of charms). From what I can tell, the algorithm works something like this: int split = magic(Level, MR, CHA) if(rand() < ~0.9) duration = rand(0, split) else duration = rand(split, 15) So with the 199 cha I was lucky enough to get 1 super charm which I did not get with the 255 cha case. I am going to go out on a limb and guess that charm durations are linearly proportional to charisma and that charisma is softcapped at 200 like the other stats and gives a 50% return, so 255 cha is equivalent to 227.5. That should give about a +10% duration which matches nicely with experiments. But overall I would say we need more data. I'd love to see a few more people post data. Still, on the whole I'd rather have 10% longer charm durations than 10% more HP, so I guess I'm going to have to regear a little. Stupid int/gnome builds with 75 base CHA. full data -------------------------------------------------------------------- 255 [Thu Dec 27 16:44:29 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 1:11 71 [Thu Dec 27 16:45:38 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 16:45:54 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 3:38 218 [Thu Dec 27 16:49:32 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 16:49:58 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 1:16 76 [Thu Dec 27 16:51:14 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 16:51:37 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 2:02 122 [Thu Dec 27 16:53:39 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 16:54:07 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 3:50 230 [Thu Dec 27 16:57:57 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 16:58:31 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 0:57 57 [Thu Dec 27 16:59:28 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 16:59:40 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 0:36 36 [Thu Dec 27 17:00:16 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:01:58 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 1:42 102 [Thu Dec 27 17:02:04 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:02:06 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 2:59 179 [Thu Dec 27 17:05:05 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:05:30 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 0:25 25 [Thu Dec 27 17:08:53 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:09:04 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 3:08 188 [Thu Dec 27 17:12:12 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. 199 [Thu Dec 27 17:12:26 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 2:46 166 [Thu Dec 27 17:15:12 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:47:34 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 1:22 82 [Thu Dec 27 17:48:56 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:49:30 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 0:34 34 [Thu Dec 27 17:51:38 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:52:02 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 1:18 78 [Thu Dec 27 17:53:20 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:53:37 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 0:07 7 [Thu Dec 27 17:53:44 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:54:12 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 0:33 33 [Thu Dec 27 17:54:45 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:54:58 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 0:11 11 [Thu Dec 27 17:55:09 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 17:55:29 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 7:11 431 [Thu Dec 27 18:02:40 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 18:03:01 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 3:39 219 [Thu Dec 27 18:06:40 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 18:07:23 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 3:48 228 [Thu Dec 27 18:11:11 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off. [Thu Dec 27 18:11:23 2012] You begin casting Boltran`s Agacerie. 4:01 241 [Thu Dec 27 18:15:24 2012] Your Boltran`s Agacerie spell has worn off.
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