Quest Issue: Shaman Epic: Iksar Broodling in PoF

Dentalplan · #1 01-13-2012, 03:19 AM

I've been doing some research into the earliest implementation of the Shaman epic. Some of the sources I've found suggest that the Iksar Broodling spawn mechanic was different than the version we see here. Here's a link to a late 2000 walkthrough of the Shaman epic, it even lists the pre-upgrade spear stats with the effect as a proc.

http://web.archive.org/web/200012160...ar_of_Fate.htm

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Plane of Fear ( Loot and Run ! )

à Kill Iksar Child in Plane of Fear in the little pyramid at LOC ( -630, -360 ). Respawn time is (currently…) 60 seconds and hes level 1 and got about 15HP

Loot : Child`s Tears

And here's a post on Allakhazam's page for the broodling:

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.html?id=5627

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As has been mentioned - this MOB is required for the Shaman Epic.

The spawn rate has changed. Originally it was a 60 second spawn. Now of course you have to kill one of 3 'mini-bosses' on the Plane of Fear.

I haven't found anything that suggests the golems were part of the Shaman epic earlier than the 2001 revamp of the planes that made them more serious minibosses. I'd guess that's when the change happened.

Dentalplan · #2 01-13-2012, 04:02 AM

Another link. This walkthrough has wayback archives from October 2000 and a few later dates, giving a pretty good hint at when this change happened. For some reason it's black text on black background, so highlight the text to read it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20001019025923/http://home.elp.rr.com/wolfclan/alchemy/spearfinal.html

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Originally Posted by October 2000 Version

Proceed to the Plane of Fear and slay the Iksar Child. The Iksar Child is in the little pyramid at -630, -360, +130. His respawn time is (currently) 60 seconds. Contrary to early reports, you do not have to kill Cazic Thule to get the Iksar Child to pop. Super easy kill. One blast of your best DD spell would be considered overkill.

TIP: If you are not interested in clearing Fear to obtain the Tear, wait until another raid clears Fear, run to the pyramid, kill the Child, loot the Tear and gate out!

Whatever method you employ, loot the Tear from the Iksar Child.

http://web.archive.org/web/200101110...pearfinal.html

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Originally Posted by January 2001 Version

Proceed to the Plane of Fear and slay the Iksar Child.

It is now reported that the Iksar Child is a broodling and that you must kill a Golem (likely Fright) to get the Child to spawn.

DoucLangur · #3 01-13-2012, 05:41 AM

Would that make the shaman epic beat the rogue one as the easiest epic in game? oO? The only real fight you have to do then is Rak Ashiir, everything else could be skipped...

bizzum · #4 01-13-2012, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would that make the shaman epic beat the rogue one as the easiest epic in game? oO? The only real fight you have to do then is Rak Ashiir, everything else could be skipped...

It would still be pretty tight even if you have nobody trying to get the mobs you were. If it were a race and you had a full team with you ready to go with you doing it the normal way would probably be faster than skipping it, considering you have to wait for respawns if you are redoing parts. If the rogue couldn't get all the pre-kunark stuff before the race started, Shaman might finish first in that case.

Sorry for being off track, I can't believe the Shaman epic was even easier. I guess you'd still have to piggyback off a fear clear or something anyways or make a sick train to get that 60 second spawn by yourself. Would be pretty fun to try!

Dentalplan · #5 01-13-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would that make the shaman epic beat the rogue one as the easiest epic in game? oO? The only real fight you have to do then is Rak Ashiir, everything else could be skipped...

Amusingly enough the walkthrough from here makes it sound like you didn't even have to kill Rak, you just turned in the tear to him and followed a bit of quest dialogue and he handed you the scale. If this was the case the Shaman epic as originally implemented was definitely even easier than the rogue epic.

Daldaen · #6 01-13-2012, 12:19 PM

This is likely why the stats were originally pretty terrabad.

Rais · #7 01-13-2012, 01:21 PM

Shaman epic was doable in two steps if you had max faction.

DoucLangur · #8 01-13-2012, 03:55 PM

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Shaman epic was doable in two steps if you had max faction.

Counting turnin, killing & looting Rak as one, then final turnin as the 2nd? That is still possible - the "if" is a big if though as the whole epic is faction based [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dentalplan · #9 01-15-2012, 07:59 AM

To the top! Would be nice to see some comment from the devs here.

bizzum · #10 01-15-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Counting turnin, killing & looting Rak as one, then final turnin as the 2nd? That is still possible - the "if" is a big if though as the whole epic is faction based [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure a few people here have already skipped the hole and Neh'Ashiir by doing black dire and the CoM reports a lot