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Old 11-09-2012, 05:42 AM
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Default Rant: Ron Paul/Rand Paul- 2016 and this previous election.

This is my rant about what happened to the republican/conservative vote this past election including the primaries and more. If you don't agree with me that's fine. I just want to get a few things off my chest.

First off this primary season when Mitt Romney won the so called "Primary" they really dicked Ron Paul and most of his supporters over. Ron Paul did very well in many states with a base of around 20 to sometimes 40% of the vote. I personally voted for Ron Paul and think that he is the "Voice of Reason" over anyone else. Guess that is just my opinion. Opinions are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink.

Anyways after the "Primaries" were over they focused on Mitt Romney which in my opinion is a joke of a candidate. I admit I got on the Mitt Romney train because I can't stand Obama. Like I said, my opinion. So during the RNC they denied Ron Paul a speaking slot, fucked him over during the primaries, made fun of his "rational" views on shit and more. Rand Paul got a speaking slot and "Endorsed" Mitt Romney if you call it that.

Here it is. Election time- Republicans think they have it in the bag and don't need the independent vote to beat Obama until they do their "Internal Polls" and realize. Oh shit we fucked up by not putting Cain/Paul/Rand on any ticket, etc.

I guess my rant is about how the republicans could have walked away with a victory just by doing one thing. Not fucking over a person who has a VAST independent base because you are "Going to Win" and Obama has no chance.

Furthermore, Rand Paul has already said he is running in 2016. I think they will give him more respect than his father and I will definitely be rooting for him in the Primaries. It's just really unfortunate that this could have all been avoided and we could have had a voice of "Reason" instead of a robot like Mitt Romney as the republican Candidate. I guess it's just funny how they were really looking for that independent voting base the last month or so of the election because I think it would have been a shitload better for them.

If you don't agree with me that's fine. Just have to get a few things off my chest and to be quite honest my wife doesn't have time to listen because she studies like a boss....
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:11 AM
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Ron Paul wasn't very popular with traditional conservatives, despite absolutely mercing Gingrich, Romney, and Santorum in the debates. However, these are the older, generally undereducated, churchgoing types that plague the gop.

Barack Obama resonates with younger voters, minorities, and the lower & middle class. Republicans really needed a candidate that was on Obama's level. Even Obama's own supporters were becoming a bit disenfranchised with what he was doing the past 4 years. The gop really needed a candidate that appealed to these groups of people to not only win over some of the the "Obama crowd," but also get the votes from the above mentioned conservative folk who pretty reliably stay out of politics other than watching some Fox News and checking every Republican box every 4 years.

Instead, they chose Mitt Romney.

Republicans only had themselves to blame for carrying such a lousy candidate. This election was nearly handed to them on a platter and they were like "Nah... we'll take this Romney guy instead, thanks."

Personally, I probably would have supported Ron Paul over Obama. Not because I'm in 100% agreement with his agenda and policies (neither am I with Obama), but because he's a very intelligent person who I feel for the most part can lead the country in the right direction. I'm sure there were at least a few million other people like me who would have made a big impact in the swing states. If Romney did this well while such a low % of the minority/young/female vote, imagine what Ron Paul could have accomplished.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:30 AM
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Problem: Republicans lose election because they get destroyed in the minority votes.

Solution: run a candidate that has published virulently racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic literature.

If Ron Paul ever gets the Republican nomination (which he won't), the Republican party will have to spend the next decade doing damage control for the spotlight the national media will put on his newsletters. And rightfully so.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:11 AM
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Here it is. Election time- Republicans think they have it in the bag and don't need the independent vote to beat Obama until they do their "Internal Polls" and realize. Oh shit we fucked up by not putting Cain/Paul/Rand on any ticket, etc.
I hope the Cain you're referring to is not of the Herman variety.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:28 AM
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Gold Standard lol
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:33 AM
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Gold Standard lol
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:45 PM
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ya lol gold standard besides the fact every fiat currency has destroyed itself (and look at history repeating death of the dollar any day now) and the societies always go back to gold.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:53 PM
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Look at history in the future?

Cool bro.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:00 PM
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its 410 ladies and gentlemen, we're about to collapse

i know, i know, you don't care about the lessons of history, don't know about rome falling to alaric the visigoth leader, but you better learn history this is dangerous

the globalist social engineers look at you, and how pathetic you are, how you don't know anything, and how youre obsessed with justin bieber and lebron james, and they say we got a buncha shmucks, a buncha morans, lets destroy their society, lets loot it, lets pass carbon taxes, expand nafta and gatt, get rid of the dollar as the world reserve currency

DO you know what happens when they get rid of the dollar? We've already lost most of our industry. You will be a 3rd world slave like they are in mexico or nigeria, but those people at least know why theyre slaves. You people are so stupid, and so focued on crap, you'll still be talking about lindsay lohan as your homeless on the streets
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:02 PM
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Ron Paul wasn't very popular with traditional conservatives, ...
Agree with most of the rest of what you said, but here I think you consider traditional conservatives as equal to social conservatives. There are also many of us that are fiscal conservatives that would consider ourselves conservatives. There are also non-interventionists, who look for a more conservative foreign policy. And considering Ron Paul focused primarily on economic issues and foreign policy, I'm not sure how you could say he wasn't popular with conservatives. He also won the CPAC (Conservative PAC) straw polls in 2010 and 2011.

Also, his social policy views weren't strictly conservative, but they were probably moreso than Romney. Keep in mind that many of the religious folks of this country, who you would probably label as social conservative, don't necessarily think the government should be the entity to fight things like drug use.

Old people who want more money spent on government programs that benefit them (medicare and ss) may call themselves conservatives, but there's nothing conservative about supporting these programs.
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