Summary of 2012 GOP Candidate

[loopholbrook]

Mit Romney- One of the biggest flip-floppers in politics right now. He has changed his stance on several issues including, but not limited to: gun control, raising minimum wage, don't ask don't tell, both Bush's and Obama's bailout, and abortion.

Michele Bachmann- This woman is crazy. She makes Sarah Palin seem intelligent. She blamed the democrats for the swine flu. She believes that our legal system encouraging antipatriotism, while promoting sexuality(what?). She thinks without minimum wage our unemployment rate would be 0%. Finally, she claims to have raised twenty three foster children. Now she's out too. Great job!

Herman Cain- Undeniably, Herman Cain is a great business man, but that doesn't necessarily translate to knowledge of our economy. From strictly an economic stand point he is one of the best candidates, which is sad. However, the man knows nothing about the social issues which we are facing. He also has complete ignorance of our foreign relations. Welp, just saw that he dropped out, so nevermind.

Newt Gingrich- The man has thirty eight breaches of ethics. The man flip-flops almost as much as Romney. A few issues which he has flip-flopped on would be medicare, engaging in Libya, and Obama's bailout.

Ron Paul- I will admit I have some bias with this candidate as I haven't many issues in which I disagree with him. I have been a supporter for around 5 years now, but I'll try to be as unbiased as possible. You will see no other Presidential candidate want to follow the constitution as strictly as Ron Paul. Some of his stances are a flat sales tax, legalizing all drugs, pulling all American troops out of every foreign country, leaving abortion up to the state, going back to the gold standard, making marriage a religious issue instead of a legal issue, and leaving payment of social security up to each individual.

Rick Perry- This man has some INSANE ideas, others not so crazy. For one, he wants to build a literal wall around the US-Mexico border. He wants a flat income tax. He would keep the troops in Pakistan and send even more to Israel. In case you forgot or are not aware, Israel is one of our greatest allies.

Jon Huntsman- Out of all of the Republican candidate he seems to one of the most intelligent. It seems that he doesn't make decision based on his morals as almost every other candidate does. He would like to remove the majority of our troops from foreign countries, more specifically leave the Middle East completely. One of his main issues is expanding global trade. He is a strong believer that the more countries that we will trade with, the more money and allies our country will gain. Huntsman also believes that we should end "Too Big To Fail", and shut down Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Rick Santorum- In all honesty, I don't know much about this man. Here are some of his issues which I am aware of. He would like to make abortion illegal in every state. He would like to end social security. He thinks we should stay in the Middle East and not leave until we end Al Qaeda. Like I said, I'm not too familiar with him, but he seems like the average Neo-Conservative.

As a whole, I would not vote for any of these candidate, except Ron Paul, if they were to get the nomination. The main problem is that none of them would really change much, OR they would go back to being exactly like Bush. I am not a supporter of Obama, but with this group of people he is looking like he will get my vote.

[Hasbinbad]

I like Ron Paul as far as his fiscal and responsibility politics go, but he is pretty backwards on several social issues. It's almost as if he doesn't have a moral code sometimes.. Attractive in his honestly, yet simultaneously draconian and repulsive.

He is still head and shoulders the best in the republican field.

[loopholbrook]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like Ron Paul as far as his fiscal and responsibility politics go, but he is pretty backwards on several social issues. It's almost as if he doesn't have a moral code sometimes.. Attractive in his honestly, yet simultaneously draconian and repulsive.

He is still head and shoulders the best in the republican field.

Actually on a moral stance he doesn't agree with many of his political views. Like with abortion for example, he wishes it weren't legal, but he thinks it's the states choice. Very similarly he thinks it's sad that people do drugs, but he doesn't think that the government should tell you not to take them. Also, from an economic stand point it's much smarter to have all drugs legal. That will cut down on over 55% of the prison population as well as seriously hurt all the drug cartels.

[Hasbinbad]

Just taking the abortion thing as an example, that he feels it is a states right to control females' lives based on.. ..what? ..antiquated religiosity? ..human rights?

..noooooo..

What about the female's rights?

Why does he wish it weren't legal?

He is pandering to what he wants to make his base. Pure and simple.

He doesn't give two shits for some young and dumb girl staring at a life changing decision in the face, having to make the better decision for herself. I mean sure, shit gets abused by crack hos that don't use birth control, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater (mind the pun).

[loopholbrook]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just taking the abortion thing as an example, that he feels it is a states right to control females' lives based on.. ..what? ..antiquated religiosity? ..human rights?

..noooooo..

What about the female's rights?

Why does he wish it weren't legal?

He is pandering to what he wants to make his base. Pure and simple.

He doesn't give two shits for some young and dumb girl staring at a life changing decision in the face, having to make the better decision for herself. I mean sure, shit gets abused by crack hos that don't use birth control, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater (mind the pun).

By leaving up to the state it means that the people of each state vote for the issue, i.e. prop 8 in California.

If it were up to me abortion would be no issue period. I get to some people it's considered murder, but in my eyes the baby isn't a person until it is born. Not for late term abortion though, that's equivalent to killing a baby. Idk, not trying to defend my postion or his, just clarifying if you look where he stands morally quite often it contradicts his political stance.

[Truth]

I love scrambling the fuck out of developing babies and draining the pourage out.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by loopholbrook [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By leaving up to the state it means that the people of each state vote for the issue, i.e. prop 8 in California.

If it were up to me abortion would be no issue period. I get to some people it's considered murder, but in my eyes the baby isn't a person until it is born. Not for late term abortion though, that's equivalent to killing a baby. Idk, not trying to defend my postion or his, just clarifying if you look where he stands morally quite often it contradicts his political stance.

The individual state should not have the right to infringe on what should be spelled out as a human right.

I think what you're looking for as far as abortion is "the age of viability." At about 20 weeks, a gestating fetus develops the ability to breathe air into it's lungs, should it suddenly find itself ejected from the womb. Without this ability, the fetus would die, even if one attempted to put the fetus on life support, as the lungs physically cannot accept air into the bloodstream (it has to do with blood pressure in the lungs and the manufactur of a substance called surfactant which allows the alveoli of the lungs to retain a certain pressure. In my opinion (this opinion is shared by many people who support abortion rights) this is the age where abortions should become illegal, because you might actually have to kill an infant, as a live fetus becomes known once alive outside of the womb (this is why some doctors are loathe to complete abortions which have passed 20 weeks but are still legal by the "2nd trimester" laws).

If yer a chick in dire straits, 20 weeks is more than enough time - even in the worst case - to make up your mind on this issue.

[Muchew]

Don't understand how this line up is even a question for anyone. Corporations paying these candidates are not just doing it out of the kindness of there heart. They want something in return if that candidate is elected. So these tards do and say whatever the fuck they want until they get elected. Then when it comes down to the corporations versus the people... they choose the one who gave them millions of dollars.

but he is pretty backwards on several social issues. It's almost as if he doesn't have a moral code sometimes..

Backwards from what? Liberals?
The only thing out of the box from ron paul is the fact that he actually wants to withdraw troops from everywhere, and that is just odd because we are so use policing all these countries that we have an economic interest in.

All the social issues are generally split 50/50, and he is on one side (as been said, though, he defers to the states)... Meaning you think 50% of the US do not have a moral code.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Muchew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meaning you think 50% of the US do not have a moral code.

More than 50%.

[Muchew]

fair enough...