Helping to reach velious

[Naerron]

So i was just shooting the breeze about a timeline on velious with a few friends and we all sort of came to the conclusion that it would be years. Our main reason for this was all the research that goes into making sure everything is accurate. So then it occurred to me that this is something the community could help with.

Before i go on tho, i want to say, i know...VP was just released, and epics are still in the works...and people might ask "why are you in such a rush?". However if you think about it, this is an enormous task, and there really is no reason to not start early. Some people have time now that won't later and visa-verse . And honestly i think it's a pretty cool thing to do, helping out the project, putting in a contribution to this pretty fucking amazing server.

So...The idea here is to have a forum section for Velious research. The way you go about categorizing the information will untimely be the crux on how accessible and easy to implement it will be. So i figured i'd offer my 2cp while camping VP key pieces and see what feedback and suggestions come back.

I gave this some mild thought and came up with the first breaking it down into two topics; Content and PC changes. Content meaning everything basically, from zone info, to quest, to mob info. And by PCs Changes i mean things like spells, trade skills, disciplines, stat caps, armor textures.

Inside the content section i think having it organized down by zone would be the most effective manner. From the perspective of someone building a DB for the game, I'd think being able to go zone by zone would be very helpful. Then under each zone have a few sub categories. Mobs, Quests, Misc. And as far as quests go, you post them in the starting NPCs zone. Also i think it would be nice to have another sub-category "Quests that involve this zone".

From there i think a template would be needed. If the template is not used by the OP the post is deleted. The template would likely need to be a little different fro each subcategory. Here is an example of quest temple, and for this, imagine i'm doing the coldian warrior arms quest.

Velious Research>Content>Thurgaidian>Quests
--BODY--
Post Title: Champion's Vambraces
Source: Here you put where you got this information from. Not sure how intense this part needs to be. Like if its from a prima strat guide, does a page need to be scanned and uploaded. Or if its from a website must there be a stable link and some sort of date. Or if a person's own memory is accepted. Ect.
Zones involved: Include the zones the gems drop in.
Mobs involved: Include all the mobs that drop the gems here too. And the many who drop the arms mold.
Items needed:
Factions/Faction lvl needed:
Experience Level needed:
Quest Dialogue: I think this should go last so the easier to reference material is up top and not a wall of txt.

As far as the sections for "Quests that involve this Zone" category, a post there would just be the quest name in title and the NPC name in the body.

A template for the mobs section.

Post Title: Mob name
--BODY---
Source:
Mob name:
Type: Quest, Raid, Monster.
Race: Humanoid, Undead, Summoned, Animal, ect.
Abilities: name and spell info
Immunities: If they are resist immune or charmable/fearable/root/snare. ECT
Stats: HP/manna
level range:
Spawn time:
Spawn area:
Quest involved:
Loot:
Notes: Anything you feel should be mentioned, a funny pathing, a PH, whatever.

That leaves the misc section under content>zone

This is a section for reporting about the strange oddities some zones have. Like say the big pit that u can jump into and zone into the hole. Does it kill you? Where do u have to be to land at the first waterfall and not the second...or does it just succor you to ent? I know many of these things can't be controlled by the construction method in play but some of them can and that makes them worth mentioning.

So a template for this one would look like this:

Post title: "small description" like for the hole "Jumping into the pit"

Description: Objective as possible.
Source:
Notes: For the subjective material you left out of the top description. Like game-play changes it causes, quest its makes harder/easier, and other testimonials.

So the reason i bothered typing out each template is because A) pained soul hates me, but more importantly the goal really has been to make the templates in a way that they can be cross referenced and make it easy to answer questions. And because there is overlap it will help any conflicting info percolate to the top and receive more personnel attention.

Anyway. As always im sure there will be haters. But i think it is a good idea, and i know i for one would like to help out with some of the more burdensome aspects of keeping a project like this rolling.

[Awwalike]

I support this, because it is a tite idea.

[Autotune]

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tite.

[Nirgon]

Yeah well, get all this kind of stuff together with links. It certainly helps. I think they're doing epics first tho.

[Silentone]

good idea, would be great if we could do it in some sort of wiki? maybe so that its easy to search and sort? i dont know exactly how wiki works but i think it would be a good idea to look into it.

[Lindalind]

Lets not because there is no hurry.

[Naerron]

I was thinking about a wiki when i started the post. But the problem with a wiki is its too hard to implement a way to check the information source.

To address the comment about the rush issue. Again i would like to state that on a current timeline of progession, it would seemingly take 2+ years to get velious done with out our help. And only a little less with out help. So...your right there is no rush. With that being said, there is also no reason to not help out, and no reason to not start now.

[Naerron]

haha i didn't even see the guy who said "let's not no rush" just joined a month ago...Appreciate your brilliant thought with tons of evidence to support your claim..but honestly if velious takes a super long time to come out it will kill the server population imo. But people say that about everything, and it never has...except Red99!! bastards..

[Glitch]

There is totally a hurry, mostly because kunark sucks and velious is tite.

[Motec]

Kunark is utter shit and is stagnant already, velious would bring the server alive.

I know at least 6 people who would play on P1999 if velious was a known thing, but at the moment those 5 to 6 people (realistically 5 who would stick around) are not interested in the shitfight that is kunark.