One step backwards, two steps forward >>>

[Massive Marc]

Preface: At the core of every thread regarding Server Population, there's been a movement to change game mechanics to better suit PVP in EQ. While I believe this project should remain in its classic setting, I do think some changes need to be made.

At this point it obvious we're trying to come up with some type of strategy to improve population. I have no direct plan for a resolution, but instead of countless threads theory crafting a plan, perhaps we can implement some of the game mechanics suggested in other threads and see if they work out ? If they don't then no worries, we move onto the next suggestion to see if it works.

Essentially what I'm suggesting is moving the server into a beta environment with everyones current characters, and trying out some of these suggestions.

(I understand this would have implication towards the staff of the project due to their time constraints. I have no experience in development, so hopefully someone can chime in and explain if the workload for this en devour would even be possible)

I know most of you guys will play no matter what rules are implemented (within reason), so what do we have to lose ?

[Tombom]

don't use the B word

[Flipmode]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At this point it obvious we're trying to come up with some type of strategy to improve population

get money, advertise. most likely not an option cause it's SOE's.

it's not like people on the street who used to play on red servers are like "hey my nerd senses are tingling there must be a new pvp box up"

[Cast]

cant take any thread started by someone with that avatar seriously

[Aesop]

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[omnigol]

a mindless echo camber decided to regurgitate this and add one more of these threads to the pile. but not only that to actually ask to revert the server to beta?

I assume the majority of what I read here is just bullshit trolling. But this is the first post that has me really asking questions.

[ZEROSUM]

Canada so dum like sweden doesnt have nukes even france got nukes l0l

and their flag is a maple leaf. the only good things out of canada are Len, syrup, avril lavign (in a tie), and bacon

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by omnigol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a mindless echo camber decided to regurgitate this shit and add one more of these shit threads to the pile. but not only that to actually ask to revert the server to beta?

I assume the majority of what I read here is just bullshit trolling. But this is the first post has me really asking questions.

I assume you're part of the basement dwelling army of neckbeards that doesn't give a shit about anything as long as you have a life time supply of cheetos and a sock to shit in.

My suggestion is legit. Since most people can't agree on ANYTHING, why not try things out until something clicks ? or do you like playing on dead boxes ?

[SearyxTZ]

I already look at this server as still in an extended beta.

This is not to say that the slate will be cleaned and rebooted at any point, but rather that it's still a work in progress.

Not that many people played the actual beta and it didn't mimic exactly what was pushed to launch (faster exp and character transfers and whatnot), so it basically just served to test the pvp resist system mechanics.


There are way too many of these armchair solution threads now. I had to think about it a while before I even created that poll thread, because I'd rather not contribute to something that could easily become more problem than help (ie: "THE SERVER IS DYING, HERE I HAVE CRAZY IDEAS" going viral). But I created it because I wanted to narrow focus down into data/results and very actionable items that the staff can use.

I've said beaten this dead horse to death already, but I'll reiterate that reining casuals in should be the #1 focus. If they ever kick up the early exp curve and try switching on global chat, I'd wager anything that the population would grow. If anyone disagrees with that then I'd like to know why 80% of the guys I played with/against on every pvp server prior to this won't commit to the grind here. "VZTZ can't handle classic" isn't acceptable logic.

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by SearyxTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I already look at this server as still in an extended beta.

This is not to say that the slate will be cleaned and rebooted at any point, but rather that it's still a work in progress.

Not that many people played the actual beta and it didn't mimic exactly what was pushed to launch (faster exp and character transfers and whatnot), so it basically just served to test the pvp resist system mechanics.


There are way too many of these armchair solution threads now. I had to think about it a while before I even created that poll thread, because I'd rather not contribute to something that could easily become more problem than help (ie: "THE SERVER IS DYING, HERE I HAVE CRAZY IDEAS" going viral). But I created it because I wanted to narrow focus down into data/results and very actionable items that the staff can use.

I've said beaten this dead horse to death already, but I'll reiterate that reining casuals in should be the #1 focus. If they ever kick up the early exp curve and try switching on global chat, I'd wager anything that the population would grow. If anyone disagrees with that then I'd like to know why 80% of the guys I played with/against on every pvp server prior to this won't commit to the grind here. "VZTZ can't handle classic" isn't acceptable logic.

I appreciate the response and agree completely. If this server is still a work a progress then I feel we have nothing to lose by trying different tactics. My only concern is if it logistically possible.