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Old 09-04-2011, 01:19 PM
Crenshinabon Crenshinabon is offline
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Default Item loot from a casual players perspective.

I played on RZ back in 99. I played a shadowknight before they even had their lifetap series of spells. Pvp was the best here than I know of in any video game.

I hear a lot of people saying that it is a casters advantage to have item loot and the game will have nothing but casters. Well first off, there will always be more casters than melee even with non pvp loot. Second, all the melee will start with no real gear anyways and most the gear has AC which doesnt help vs casters anyways. Now with everyone being naked melee will hit casters harder, and casters will have less mana to use on spells.

It really does even out.

Now on to twinks and PKs. It was always a rush trying to kill a twink knowing you might get a bad ass piece of gear off them. This is good for anyone. It will make people want to try and kill the twink and take the gear as opposed to just running away. With no item loot, you kill the twink then what? Hes back in 5 minutes doing the exact same thing. It will also discourage twink with chance you will get ganked. I always loved trying to ban togather to kill people who thought they were invincible wearing all their gear. It is a huge rush.

I remember I would always try to find obscure areas to level in so I could put my gear on. I had so much fun exploring around looking for some cool spots to level. Also you can always wear a few pieces of gear that is easily bagable as long as you don't have all your good gear on.

Really item loot is the best there is. Real incentive to pvp. And not to mention incentive to doing obscure no drop armor quest. I remember I loved the Lguk area because of Shin armor being no drop.

I am not sure why all the hate on item loot when most people have never even tried it.

The only thing I see being a problem is the level range would need to be a bit smaller so you would not get ganked by someone 8 lvls above you in no time. Also there was a problem with groupmemebers dropping group and killing you. This would be remedied by just having it so i you group with someone you cannot pk them for at least a minute or two.

I am PRO item loot. Please get this in!
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:24 PM
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NO.

for the fucking last time unless you want to play on a server with 30 people this will not happen.

If this server ever does release there will be 60-100 people on during max hours.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:26 PM
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Man I really doubt that.
There are a fkton of people waiting on this server.
Even VZTZ Emu back in the day had more than you are saying.

Stop being such a troll/downer. Damn.

And reading your wanted rules, keeping ooc serverwide in. I now officially discredit you.
Also why do you even need to put in FFA in planes? Do I need to even explain this?
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:02 PM
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NO.

for the fucking last time unless you want to play on a server with 30 people this will not happen.

If this server ever does release there will be 60-100 people on during max hours.
hey look its a bluebie nostradamus
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:07 PM
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Dunno how to phrase this, but you sound like a noob Crensh, fine item loot won't effect the crushbone pvp when melees are wearing patchwork, you're correct there.

Don't need to get into the list of actual items that require days/weeks to obtain that people won't be able to wear, or will wear and get hate wanded down or ivandyr hooped into losing, among many other greasey shit. The arguments old people know what they want or don't - Nilbog/Rogean will decide for themselves.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:17 PM
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Not many items in classic take that long to get at level 50 and the ones that do are no drop.

If you are wearing your cloak of flames / fbss / slimeblood or something else that has taken you forever to get and get ganked you deserve to lose it. You just gotta learn who to trust.

Its all about if you should wear things or not.

How does this make me sound like a "noob"
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:28 PM
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Fbss tranix crown cof mithril armor resist gear, bloodstained mantle dwarven ringmail tunic, ssb or literally any other piece of gear that make a melee viable can be taken.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:29 PM
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You found obscure places to level in so you could wear your gear, sounds cool.
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:13 PM
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Man I really doubt that.
There are a fkton of people waiting on this server.
Even VZTZ Emu back in the day had more than you are saying.

Stop being such a troll/downer. Damn.

And reading your wanted rules, keeping ooc serverwide in. I now officially discredit you.
Also why do you even need to put in FFA in planes? Do I need to even explain this?
A) the server probably won't happen. Especially since the chaos on the Blue Server has started.
B) there are a fukton of people waiting on the server? If there is!!! most will quit once they see it takes 2 days to level to 10. IF there is xp loss on pvp death much will quit sooner than that. If there is item loot most might not even play.
C)VZTZ max population was around 250...minus the two boxing,3 boxing etc going on....120ish? maybe.... and that didn't last for long

I'm not trolling you... And I'm sorry to be a downer but these are facts sir.

I really don't care about the rules I just want a server to play on but many like me who have played on vztz for the past 4 years know what works and what doesn't.

FFA for planes just cus once Kunark rolls someone 54 should be able to kill a 45 rez box in Fear, etc. (if the +/- 8 pvp range, etc)
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:22 PM
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C)VZTZ max population was around 250...minus the two boxing,3 boxing etc going on....120ish? maybe.... and that didn't last for long
try 300-400 concurrent for 4-5 months
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