World of Warcraft really is an EverQuest copy/pasta.

[Wakanda]

I've been playing WoW for over 20 years and am currently logged into it right now, so I'm not just being a hater. But I'm in the portal room in Stormwind, and thinking about how similar it is to the Plane of Knowledge. Except the Plane of Knowledge was exciting and a huge novelty. With WoW the fast travel mostly feels irrelevant or pointless. I only noticed it because I was going to a previous expansion to unlock a transmog for my new alt.

But my point is, it really feels like there was no original ideas with WoW. They are even getting to the point where EQ did around the time most of us quit, IE. churning out faster and faster expansion packs for $$$.

My girlfriend legit confused when I told her the new expansion is coming out in months, not years, because she's used to earlier WoW where an expansion could last years, not a year'ish.

[kjs86z2]

no shit sherlock

[shovelquest]

Someone tell Daybreak Games's investment group!

[Rygar]

WoW had plenty of "original ideas" if anyone can really say that in a fantasy setting (meaning everyone copies from D&D)

But to name a few: using a separate stat (resilience) to balance PvP play and not unbalance PvE, battlegrounds, quest exp system was very intuitive to new players, economy super well balanced (best I've seen in an MMO), stat tree allowed for a single class to function based on how you prefer to play (i.e. shaman could be a healer, range DPS, or melee DPS), armor enchants, trade skill system was integral to raiding, instancing, griffon travel, character fashion quest customization, etc.

And lest not forget a true "good vs. evil" system where you couldn't even group or communicate with the opposing faction.

Shame on you for playing Alliance (and making this thread)

[shovelquest]

What I never understood about wow that worked in EQ and it made no sense to me.

If I saw you running from across the zone in EQ, I knew who you were. Like "oh cool there goes hazenblat, his armor I recognize a mile away"

But in wow, a game with much higher quality graphics, I couldn't identify one person from another in my groups.

I never understood why this was the way it was to me.

[cd288]

Today in stunning content provided by RecondoJoe on his ban evasion account.

Joe, didn't you throw some hissy fit about P99 and post that video of you deleting your characters? Bit sad that you threw a tantrum and said you were leaving and then came back. Have some balls and put your money where your mouth is.

[shovelquest]

Oh cool, recon is a bad ass.

[tycohunden]

Apparently, when WoW was finished and they had to build the world one of the devs who were deep into EQ raiding asked one of the higher ups what he wanted, and followed it up with: We could just copy EverQuest with our own lore? That pretty much became WoW, sure they tuned it around a bit, but basically wow is just the love child of EQ raiders and suits without a creative bone in their body... Then came bobby...

[loramin]

I mean, you could also argue that EQ copied DikuMUD, or that DikuMUD copied other MUDs, or that MUDs copied old school RPGs like Wizard, or that Wizadry copied Dungeons and Dragons, or that ...

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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, you could also argue that EQ copied DikuMUD, or that DikuMUD copied other MUDs, or that MUDs copied old school RPGs like Wizard, or that Wizadry copied Dungeons and Dragons, or that ...

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No you can't.

That's enough misinformation from you.