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Old 12-18-2019, 12:29 PM
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Woo this nonclassic zem in HHK has caused players to be the most vile people. The hostility.. the trains... the crying.. literally.. i seen a halfling crying in a corner over being bypassed on a group list because he afk'd to run to liquor store. People waiting 3 hours for a group because they can get 30-36 in a day there. What have we become?

Is there any end to this madness?
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:33 PM
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i seen a halfling crying in a corner over being bypassed on a group list because he afk'd to run to liquor store.
Gotta stock up on that jumjum juice before you start your 18-hour play session... sounds like that halfing is an amateur!
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Old 12-18-2019, 01:25 PM
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I have been in the Gob group with 2 different characters and have been lead 3 times.

Some of the silly things I saw while been lead:

-People wanting into the group at lvl 25 and the Gobs are wrecking their face or spells not sticking.

- Having our Rogue DPS head out for the night and Cleric sitting on stairs throw a fit that he wants in.... Already have a Cleric and shammy in group so we don't need a 2nd Cleric.

- Prior group leader not passing on his list so now I have a hot mess on my hands because others are complaining they got skipped for invites.

- One night we had 5 people waiting on stairs for their turn to join. Out of the blue a random low lvl trained the Raider room and caused a semi wipe. Our Necro and SK FD while we ran to guards to try and clear out the mess. During that split second the 5 guys on the stairs try to take the Gob camp by force but our Necro and SK stood up and held it down for us.

To top it off the leader of the mini revolt was claiming to be next on list that it was all a joke.
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Old 12-18-2019, 01:52 PM
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Well, the stories sound classic...

The exp, not so much.

I started a month late so I imagine it’ll get nerfed right as I get into level range. Meanwhile, there’s boat loads of people who leveled to 50 there.

I wonder why this hasn’t been addressed?
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:29 PM
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Well, the stories sound classic...

The exp, not so much.

I started a month late so I imagine it’ll get nerfed right as I get into level range. Meanwhile, there’s boat loads of people who leveled to 50 there.

I wonder why this hasn’t been addressed?
It's not really an issue with the ZEM EXP IMO. The real issue is that the Goblins are considered ONE camp on P99, whereas on live it was like 4 camps because it's roughly like 16 spawns with 12 minute respawn timers. On P99, when all those spawns belong to 1 group, which can essentially chain pull non-stop, the EXP is insane. If it were like it is on live where you're getting 3-4 mobs for your group (so, with 12 minute respawn timers, that's 15-20 mobs per hour as opposed to about 80 mobs per hour) the EXP would still be good but it wouldn't be NEARLY as good.

It's the way the camp is set up on P99 that makes the EXP so insane, not that HHK didn't have a good ZEM on live (because it frequently did).
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:03 PM
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It's not really an issue with the ZEM EXP IMO. The real issue is that the Goblins are considered ONE camp on P99, whereas on live it was like 4 camps because it's roughly like 16 spawns with 12 minute respawn timers. On P99, when all those spawns belong to 1 group, which can essentially chain pull non-stop, the EXP is insane. If it were like it is on live where you're getting 3-4 mobs for your group (so, with 12 minute respawn timers, that's 15-20 mobs per hour as opposed to about 80 mobs per hour) the EXP would still be good but it wouldn't be NEARLY as good.

It's the way the camp is set up on P99 that makes the EXP so insane, not that HHK didn't have a good ZEM on live (because it frequently did).
No it didn’t. It had its ZEM bumped after EQ had been out for a long time in order to get people to group in the old world. This has been verified by patch messages.

It’s true what you say about the goblins being broken up into multiple camps on live, but the current ZEM in HHK is not classic.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:39 PM
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Just curious - is there documentation anywhere saying that the gobbo camp in HHK is only for a single group? If not, is there really anything preventing another group from posting up inside that area? Other than not wanting to get into it with the other group of course..
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:46 PM
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Just curious - is there documentation anywhere saying that the gobbo camp in HHK is only for a single group? If not, is there really anything preventing another group from posting up inside that area? Other than not wanting to get into it with the other group of course..
when I did HHK back on live there was one grp that camped at stairs, one in the little room to the right of the stairs with 3-4 mobs , one in the first room on the right as you go down the 2nd set of stairs, and one in the final room at the bottom.


Craziest part about this? we were all stoked AF to camp our 3-6 mobs and nobody bitched or complained it was slow. I kinda miss this in some ways because I felt like it became more of a social exp grind instead of the 'chain pull and never stop!' mentality that p99 has.
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Old 12-19-2019, 06:32 PM
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Just curious - is there documentation anywhere saying that the gobbo camp in HHK is only for a single group? If not, is there really anything preventing another group from posting up inside that area? Other than not wanting to get into it with the other group of course..
Nope a group can setup around the corner, and by the rules, they are entitled to do so. Problem is... your group will most likely be trained often. So it's just not worth it.
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:02 PM
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People need to get over the idea that they're entitled to a group juts because you're on a list. If a group needs a DPS and you're a tank, too damn bad, sucks to be you.
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