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Old 04-11-2016, 09:00 AM
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Is it kind of expected to have a group rage quit on you after wiping? I've been grouping in CB and the last few times my groups have wiped due to a train or over pull the group won't even help me get my corpse before camping. Sometimes without saying anything. You'd figure they'd at least help you with that but it's not been the case for me.

Is this a normal trend for this game? It's one thing at lower levels but I would hate it if it continued to later levels. I play a warrior so a lot of times I'll try and keep aggro to take the heat while my group runs to the zone but even then this happens. If so, maybe I should play a bard so I can pop selos and be the one bailing. jk, that's not my style.
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:14 AM
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how hard is it to get a corpse out of cb? the zone is the size of a closet.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:59 AM
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how hard is it to get a corpse out of cb? the zone is the size of a closet.
Missed the point on this one.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:05 PM
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how hard is it to get a corpse out of cb? the zone is the size of a closet.
But a walk in closet at least...
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:26 AM
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Generally, I've found any rogue in a party will offer to drag your corpse. Sometimes you have to ask, sometimes they will offer. I know I offer to corpse-drag for those classes who cannot do it themselves when I am on my rogue. At higher levels, you want to drag any and all corpses for a rez, so it's second nature.

I suspect that you have discovered a bit of an issue with warriors at your level; your one job is to hold aggro, but you haven't the tools to do it. Rogues who don't evade (something they can do from lvl 3) or whose hide skill is too low will pull aggro and blame you, wizards who nuke too early will pull aggro off you and then blame you, enchanters who don't mez properly will blame you, clerics who forget that healing gives aggro will pull aggro and then blame you. Your taunt skill is awful at your level, so you need to do most of the damage.

Get a good group with an enchanter who uses mezz, a cleric who uses root, a rogue who uses evasion and a wizard who nukes at the end rather than the beginning. A good group will never rage-quit. They might call it a day and make sure everyone gets out safely, but rage-quitting is usually a sign of players who don't know their class and get everyone wiped.

For your part, as a warrior, tell the puller if they are pulling too fast / too high-level mobs, ask the nukers to let you get a good amount of aggro before they start (rogues are awful for this) and make sure you are using taunt properly. Seriously, learn how to taunt; don't just spam it (unless you are trying to skill up in a hurry) and taunt every time you lose aggro instead.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:02 PM
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Generally, I've found any rogue in a party will offer to drag your corpse. Sometimes you have to ask, sometimes they will offer. I know I offer to corpse-drag for those classes who cannot do it themselves when I am on my rogue. At higher levels, you want to drag any and all corpses for a rez, so it's second nature.

I suspect that you have discovered a bit of an issue with warriors at your level; your one job is to hold aggro, but you haven't the tools to do it. Rogues who don't evade (something they can do from lvl 3) or whose hide skill is too low will pull aggro and blame you, wizards who nuke too early will pull aggro off you and then blame you, enchanters who don't mez properly will blame you, clerics who forget that healing gives aggro will pull aggro and then blame you. Your taunt skill is awful at your level, so you need to do most of the damage.

Get a good group with an enchanter who uses mezz, a cleric who uses root, a rogue who uses evasion and a wizard who nukes at the end rather than the beginning. A good group will never rage-quit. They might call it a day and make sure everyone gets out safely, but rage-quitting is usually a sign of players who don't know their class and get everyone wiped.

For your part, as a warrior, tell the puller if they are pulling too fast / too high-level mobs, ask the nukers to let you get a good amount of aggro before they start (rogues are awful for this) and make sure you are using taunt properly. Seriously, learn how to taunt; don't just spam it (unless you are trying to skill up in a hurry) and taunt every time you lose aggro instead.
Yeah I figured that might be the case. I'll do my best but with grouping, we just kind of form with whatever classes are available at the time. It's really annoying how seemingly under powered my warrior is. A friend geared me up with full RZ gear and a decent weapon too and still I suck.
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:48 AM
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A lot of people at low levels are rusty and have not yet got used to their class/the game/their frustration.

As you level up, you'll find people are better at dealing with all these things so you're less likely to get into a frustrating situation, and even if you do your group members will be more likely to deal with it in a way other than ragequitting.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:03 PM
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A lot of people at low levels are rusty and have not yet got used to their class/the game/their frustration.

As you level up, you'll find people are better at dealing with all these things so you're less likely to get into a frustrating situation, and even if you do your group members will be more likely to deal with it in a way other than ragequitting.
That's reassuring. I can tough it out if that's the case.
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Old 04-11-2016, 09:58 AM
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In zones like CB you don't need a rogue to pull a corpse. Any caster who can invis at that level (most casters) can do that.

I understand rage quitters when the group was perceived as real shitty. But just because of bad circumstances... that's lame. At least help everybody get their corpse back. The good news is that usually even people outside the group will help, that's my experience.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:05 PM
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In zones like CB you don't need a rogue to pull a corpse. Any caster who can invis at that level (most casters) can do that.

I understand rage quitters when the group was perceived as real shitty. But just because of bad circumstances... that's lame. At least help everybody get their corpse back. The good news is that usually even people outside the group will help, that's my experience.
Oh yeah and others were helpful for sure. Just felt that my group should have been the helpful ones. I was okay after dying once more. Just sucks cause I tried on my own fist and my corpse was in the throne room which was fine with a group, but death city on my own.
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