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11-15-2015, 01:22 AM
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is it possible to have a trilogy client server?
It's always been a dream to use the classic ui, playing up to velious content, with the inventory camera working and everything! Most server's use Titanium, others use the old eqmac client for PoP, which is frustrating lol.
This seemed to be a thing, that people were attempting around 2007-2008. Then all those projects just stopped! o_O I understand the classic client is a pain to work with, but I wouldn't even mind playing on an old windows 95/98 machine just to play lol. I'd be willing to learn whatever it is I need to learn, to assist in such a project. I'm quite a dedicated person, if only I knew the whatsits to do the whosits! lol. Other than that, if anyone out there wants to give this a go, i'll support you full throttle =) | ||
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11-15-2015, 03:14 AM
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There are some things that would make it really difficult to build up a workable server (namely having no profiling of what server-to-client packets and opcodes looked like at the time). But just getting the classic client to run at all on modern systems seems like a challenge.
By complete coincidence I decided to break out my old Kunark and Velious CDs last night and poke around. The one issue that keeps coming up is "No 3D devices found" -- seems like the old client will refuse to run if it can't find what it considers to be a valid device driver. At first I thought it might just be a DirectX issue -- support for DirectX8 was dropped around Win7. Loaded up a WinXP image in virtualbox and tried to tinker with their "experimental" 3D emulation support (3D shows up as supported in dxdiag), but nada. Maybe tinkering with system files would help since my first attempt at downgrading to DX8 didn't seem to take (dxdiag still lists DirectX 9.0c), but ehh. Couldn't get a Win98SE image to install, and it's not officially supported for virtualbox anyway. Seems like there is a niche community that does Win98 on virtualbox, but considering that it's an ancient OS running on an ancient kernel (9x rather than NT), support looks hard to come by. Getting the executable to start up in Wine is no problem, but the opening screens are a flickering mess and I can't get it to accept any keyboard input for the account name and password login screen. All in all, it would probably take a few people who really know what they are doing to fix and/or workaround these issues. And it seems pretty likely that, unless it could be bootstrapped to somehow run on modern Windows systems without DX8 and with modern drivers using new driver models/infrastructure that old EQ knows nothing about, it's inevitable that players would have to set up a virtual machine or some such, which would seriously limit the number of people who might be willing to put the effort in to play. | ||
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11-15-2015, 05:23 AM
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I would love to see a server like this, I miss the old UI and stuff. check out EQclassic, it isnt done and I think the Devs have kinda given up. I wish they would have an open beta or atleast a closed beta to make the development go faster.
in regards of the "no 3D devices" I havnt had that problem before aside from graphics/motherboard drivers not being installed. check out EQclassic Source and maybe if you get a public server up and running. hit me up and i will help out with development and stuff. I have downloaded and tried to set up this server and I cannot figure it out.
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11-15-2015, 07:26 AM
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Found that old code floating around as well. Old EQEmu code tends to be a mess, but would make a good knowledge base for a new project rewritten from the ground up. Took some time to get the old source configured (what a mess) to use modern mysql, but seems to run well enough to get ingame, on Win10 no less. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Looks dark due to lack of gamma change (think I forgot to hit a setting on the old graphics driver thingamajig that needs to be used). | |||
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11-15-2015, 07:48 AM
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Doing Veeshan's work right here.
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11-15-2015, 07:49 AM
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Dam that's some good nostalgia right there.
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11-15-2015, 08:22 AM
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holy crap XD I sent you a PM bro.
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