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#1
11-14-2015, 01:49 PM
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Enchanter race? Why Elves?
It seems like 2/3 of enchanters I see are Dark Elves and most of the rest are High Elves. I'm suprised there are not more Erudites. Is it maybe just illusions?
Is Dark elf hide that important? I feel like it's risky that it will fail and your pet could die or kill the other mob before you cast invis (is the chance of mana saving the motivation?) Eventually it will be replaced by goblin ring. Then you consider they have the 3rd worst starting stats and vision can be fixed with illusion pretty early. Personally I just like Dark elves, is that what draws most people in? High elf I understand with maximum possible charisma. I dont really care for HIE looks but you can always use illusions so as not to blind yourself by staring at pasty all day long. Plus they are weak, when soloing you need to be able to carry decent weight for extended periods and every bit of strength helps. If you maxed Erudite's charisma you start with a respectable 105 (10 more than darky) and 15 more int then a high elf. Then there is Erudite magic resist. I feel like that extra 10 save magic could be invaluable for AOE mezzing. Could anyone help me understand the race distribution here? Main stats calculation: Dark elf: 109 int + 70 cha + 30 bonus = 209 High Elf: 102 int + 90 cha + 30 bonus = 222 Erudite: 117 int + 80 cha + 30 bonus = 227 Gnome: 108 int + 70 cha + 30 bonus = 208 Human: 85 int+ 85 cha + 30 bonus = 200 | ||
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#2
11-14-2015, 01:56 PM
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I just really like high elves. It is just a bonus on top of that that they have one of the best stat combos.
Really though high end gear starts to lack in CHA, so its nice to have a higher base overall or you start having to sacrifice some really nice pieces if you want to keep your CHA high. CHA is plentiful and very easy to get earlier on, but as you upgrade into better stuff it can catch you by surprise. Having a higher base CHA is also really nice on those naked CR runs. | ||
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Last edited by -Catherin-; 11-14-2015 at 01:59 PM..
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#3
11-14-2015, 06:11 PM
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The racial hide is nice but I would say it's more a matter of character conception. Dark elves just seem to me more like the ones who should be enchanters. I have made human and high elf enchanters and they're also fun but dark elf just seems right. Oddly, now that I really think about it, gnome appeals to me more than either human or high elf if I wasn't going dark elf. I should make one of those and see how it goes. Erudites seem better for necromancers, mages, and wizards in my mind. Funny how it works.
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#4
11-14-2015, 06:35 PM
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Racial hide isn't reliable enough to be worthwhile even prior to the IVU component of hide being nerfed, and the fact that ENC get a fixed duration invis to negate the advantage of being able to afk safely on blue it falls between Erudite or High Elf. If you want to cancel charm, cast invis (I think taper enchantment was nerfed?) or pony up the cash for a goblin ring, something you'd do as a Dark Elf either way.
1) Regarding Erudite resists, its an extra 5 MR, not 10, at the cost of the harder to acquire DR (red player here, thus that perspective.) 2) Once you factor in needing to pump 5 agil on the Erudite, the stat divide between High Elf and Erudite becomes equal in terms of total INT / CHA points. 3) INT is easier to acquire than CHA. (On non pleb-tier gear. Yes, opalline earrings are cheap, but we're talking dope ass Velious lewt.) 4) If you have to make a naked CR self clearing to your corpse solo, every bit of base CHA matters. High Elf wins. | ||
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Last edited by Lowlife; 11-14-2015 at 06:43 PM..
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#5
11-14-2015, 07:18 PM
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Is the 5 to agi a must have? I've heard mixed reviews on how it affects caster ac.
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#7
11-14-2015, 09:31 PM
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I like dark elves so that's why I made one. Originally I had a high elf (strictly for the stats), but got tired of casting illusions constantly and decided to re-roll around level 25.
If your only concern is best starting stats, then I'd say high elf is the winner for sure. Gnome is another option if you want to do tinkering. Personally though I don't think any race is so irredeemably bad for enchanter that it should dissuade you from being the one you prefer, especially because most of your problems are solved with levels anyway. Eventually you'll be able to farm/buy a goblin gazughi ring which is way better than hide for breaking charm, you'll become immune to your mez, and you'll get +50 CHA and +21 INT buffs. | ||
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