Ragefire v. p99, my review:

[Talgurin]

PROS:

- It's up to date with balance issues. It's not "classic" but you COULD argue it's significantly better than classic. No hybrid imbalance. More fun little items and things not found on P99. Fippy Darkpaw dropped "Fippy's Paw" for my mage - a decent range caster item for a noob.

- You're supporting Daybreak with some cash to keep EverQuest from disappearing.

- There is the opportunity to some day move beyond Velious if you were also a fan of Luclin, PoP, and so forth.

That's about it.

CONS:

- I'm ever grateful for P99's anti-boxing rule. It makes for a real MMO experience. On Ragefire I am already seeing SIX boxes and it's very likely there are some TWELVE boxers. For this reason I cannot imagine what high levels will be like. No real grouping, but competing with massive bot setups for basic spawns.

- As a result there's a lot of pressure to also be a boxer. I was about to roll a shaman to go with my mage before I decided $30 a month wasn't worth it and now I'm going back to p99.

- Hardcore players from Live make guilds like TMO seem like casual picnics. Just a few days after release word on the street is that Nagafen and Vox have both been killed. The members of Twisted Legacy play TWELVE HOURS a day (according to their website). There's enough people from the EQ world on retirement / disability who never leave their trailers to make this happen. I'm not sure if this is really something to be proud of... It's like becoming the World's Fattest Person (metaphorically, not literally, but maybe literally, too).

- Cheapened death penalties. It's more like WoW. Just respawn with your gear. It's been said before but it can be said again... No danger and no challenge creates boredom and demotes teamwork.

In Summary

- p99 has continued to fulfill a true classic experience by banning boxers. Nothing beats a full group of players in a dungeon and working together, and embarking on your char's individual quest to the top.. Not power leveling your way to 60 with 6 mages in a few days.

[Bboboo]

Pros: P99 is classic

Cons: Ragefire is not classic.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Talgurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The members of Twisted Legacy play TWELVE HOURS a day (according to their website). There's enough people from the EQ world on retirement / disability who never leave their trailers to make this happen. I'm not sure if this is really something to be proud of... It's like becoming the World's Fattest Person (metaphorically, not literally, but maybe literally, too).

Funny sentence. Probably true though.

Yeah I played a lot on the Beta. The load times to even start the game or zone are just STUPID long. It is way too much of a Easy Mode game. Not really into all the Luclin Graphics, or revamped zones like EC, WP, no WC just just one BIG zone. No Oasis of Marr. Just stupid.

I knew they would screw it up just like they have done in the past. They seem to NEVER learn. And you are right about Boxing. They are a money whore you know that to even allow boxing.

I don't see it making them a lot of real money in the long run. The game is set up now play wise and gear wise for 11 year old kids. The new Legand gear is just hideous. What some people do to get your RL money!! WoW comes to mind also, Whores. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Swish]

Our community is way better (most of the time) from what I've seen on their forums. Keep it P99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daldaen]

Again people fail to understand the point.

Going to a PROGRESSION SERVER, and arguing it isn't sticking true to classic is too narrow minded. The server will be out of classic in 3-4 months and kunark another 3-4 after that and velious etc. There's minimal point devoting huge resources to revert zones and graphics when the purpose of the server is to see all expansions within the next two years.

There are 21 or 22 expansions now. Progression servers are fantastic after the first 4-5 because by then all the updated zones and u classic features are mostly irrelevant, and it's a pretty good progression experience. You'll never get to experience the exact expansion progression with all the bugs and fixes as they were but they do a pretty good job letting you experience progressing through the final version of most of these expansions.

Play P99 for classic. Play Ragefire for progressing through every expansion.

Complaining Ragefire isn't classic is like complaining Paula Deen didn't cook healthy food. She never marketed it as healthy, she's a woman from the south so sticks of butter, deep fried with a pinch of racism is to be expected.

[Masq]

Originally Posted by Talgurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PROS:

The members of Twisted Legacy play TWELVE HOURS a day (according to their website). There's enough people from the EQ world on retirement / disability who never leave their trailers to make this happen. I'm not sure if this is really something to be proud of... It's like becoming the World's Fattest Person (metaphorically, not literally, but maybe literally, too).

I'm sure plenty of the top dawgs on p99 play over 12hours a day with no problem.

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Complaining Ragefire isn't classic is like complaining Paula Deen didn't cook healthy food. She never marketed it as healthy, she's a woman from the south so sticks of butter, deep fried with a pinch of racism is to be expected.

I had to google Paula Deen, was not disappointed.
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[Talgurin]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again people fail to understand the point.

Going to a PROGRESSION SERVER, and arguing it isn't sticking true to classic is too narrow minded. The server will be out of classic in 3-4 months and kunark another 3-4 after that and velious etc. There's minimal point devoting huge resources to revert zones and graphics when the purpose of the server is to see all expansions within the next two years.
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Exactly. This is why progression is appealing to me. I like every expansion until after sometime past OoW it started to get very easy-mode WoW-ish, but nonetheless this is why progression appeals to me. But it's a shame about the massive boxing that will probably make the server close to unplayable at high levels.

[EQJubilee]

Paula Deen is AWESOME!

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Masq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure plenty of the top dawgs on p99 play over 12hours a day with no problem.



I had to google Paula Deen, was not disappointed.
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I'll have a side of NAACPeas served on separate but equal plates.

[Bboboo]

People were expecting classic EQ from Ragefire?

That sucks.