Let's talk about natural progression here.

[FadedVision]

To call this server natural progression is ridiculous. Sure, there were twinks here and there, there were wars over mobs constantly(much cleaner on live), and I even remember being called at work for raids more than a couple of times by EQ friends 2 time zones away(I did not own a cell phone, most didn't). This is not the same everquest. It has the same mobs, same names, and some of the same items... but the real difference is that you all have been stuck in this expansion for about 3x longer than you should have been. There should be new fresh content for you guys to explore and conquer. New dragons, new loot, and a larger variety of bosses to disperse this poopsock parade. Spreading the competition throughout other areas of interest and freeing up what should be old and "boring" content to new players so that they can experience the same joys you got at that level.

Leveling as a low level, you hear the bitterness. "guilds have naggy and vox perma camped with twinks." They know that they will not be able to naturally progress as they should. That is not "natural progression" and a GM should ban you for doing that. If you have to restart fear/hate when gods spawn, then you should have to do the same for dragons, restart your raid in WC's everytime. You have locked out content from newer players for years(I'm guessing) because you are greedy. I am sorry, when I was 60 on live. If someone wanted me to level up to 52 to perma camp naggy or Vox I would have laughed in your face and went on farming TOV, farming sleepers, AOW, Tunare, etc. The fact that you do not have anything better to do and that GM's have not disbanded this monopoly speaks to the fact that the GM's are either A) part of one of these guilds and enjoy the benefits or B) the GM's have absolutely no control over this game or it's ability to recreate the natural progression of the original game. This game is not kept with the essence upon which it was made. The live staff worked to keep things like this from happening, that is why you would be teleported away if you were over 53, because in the actual game you WOULD NOT STOP LEVELING YOUR CHARACTER SIMPLY BECAUSE IT KEEPS YOU CAPABLE OF CAMPING DRAGONS. You should be wanting to keep leveling to enjoy new content. Not reliving old and tired content because you are simply put, greedy.

The greed on this server is disgusting. People pay for power leveling, pay for epics(which are actually fun to quest on their own, try it), and actually roll NbG on epic pieces just to MQ them. Try doing the rogue epic, it's filled with greedy explicitive who are sitting around farming MQ's for 25k. Try actually doing that epic(which starts at 50 btw, meaning you should not be able to own one unless you are 50). It's just a bunch of rude people fighting over MQ's, choking off people who are actually trying to finish the epic. They are rude, mean, and greedy beyond measure.

I know that some people are going to flame me on here and I don't care. /rude

[Erasong]

wrong forum.

[Durka]

I am pretty certain many have observed this over the past few years since kunark has been the only thing to do on the server.

Walk away and come back when velious is out and hopefully the bumrush of poopsockers will be too busy with that content so you can enjoy kunark stuff. Can't be in 2 places at once! Sure, you may be upset that you cannot enjoy all of the velious content when it arrives. Wait it out - people get bored. Once its conquered enough times by uberguilds they will realize that is it...no more to conquer. Time to quit. There will be the many who roll numerous toons, gear them with the best gear and make a collection of toons. Those types exist in every MMO.

Just be patient man. Devs are trying and hate to say it, this is FREE. Why would you complain about something that is donation driven?

[Ele]

This is a free server that is attempting to rebuild EQ as it existed. The length of the time line is due to the fact that this is a HOBBY to the devs spending their free time recreating EQ.

If you want natural progression, wait until all dev work is done and a fresh server gets launched.

Hate to burst your bubble about Nagafen/Vox, but in 2000/2001 uber guilds did level alts specifically to camp them.

Would you have everyone quit once they hit level 60 and killed each boss mob once? That way the next wave of players can experience the boss mob?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by FadedVision [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try actually doing that epic(which starts at 50 btw, meaning you should not be able to own one unless you are 50). It's just a bunch of rude people fighting over MQ's, choking off people who are actually trying to finish the epic. They are rude, mean, and greedy beyond measure.

Some of us care enough to block the MQers to help people get their epics <3

GMs don't get involved with this (I tried a petition once, they stay well away). I think they should to promote a more community friendly environment although its a big time investment checking up on spawns. In absence of that its down to the player base to help...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO7XDgo5JBo

I had people like Calabee (RIP) blocking me in Kaladim and in Lake Rathe. Thankfully Liia let me go ahead of a MQ in progress so I'm paying it forward where I see it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also for the record, I'm only redoing the epic because I want to hand in for my high elf mask [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[FadedVision]

It's free and so is complaining. League of Legends is a free game and people complain about it all the time, they patch and fix bugs constantly(just an example and I'm not trying to take you on).

I'm being critical to the players that maybe they will stop being greed mongers and to GM's that could see this statement and maybe say... "maybe rogues shouldn't be epic'd until 50" and ban the MQ or stop it in some way since it's more of an anomaly here than it was on live(by a large margin). This is a free server, decisions should be made to protect the integrity of the game. That would help both leveling rogues and keep the game more natural. I would gladly donate money if I was happy with the game.(keep in mind)

I do like this server and love the idea that they came up with, natural progression. That's all I'm arguing is that they should do more to ensure the natural progression. If daybreak does it correctly, I will pay them money to play their version, which they announced recently.

[FadedVision]

BTW, that is great Swish. There is some honor among thieves.

[captnamazing]

lol. this belongs in RNF.

Your point about fear/hate respawning is obsolete. In fear, we have bards kite the whole zone so it's irrelevant.

Also, I love the logic here "if you had told me to level an alt to 52 to camp vox/naggy I would have told you to fuck off and went on Farming ToV, etc etc" -> Complains about the server being greedy for farming

I have fun here, pal. Why you gotta rage so young?

[maskedmelon]

The staff have made decisions to protect the integrity of the game. They have embraced the well reasoned principles of simplicity and objectivity. Their design goals are to recreate the classic mechanics and they remain objective in their implementation to avoid the inevitable ferris wheel of insanity associated with feeling based decision making.

There is no merit to any of your complaints because they only delay completion of the primary project goal. Once all code has been satisfactorily restored in its entirety, staff can (and I am sure will) devote time to what ought to be done to maintain the server.

Your argument of greed here is greedy in its own right. Whether your claim is on your own behalf or that of others is irrelevant, because either way you would benefit (either directly via greater access, or indirectly via the satisfaction gained via realization of your perverse notion of fairness) at the expense of others who have invested more (be the suppliers or purchasers of MQ.

I do not farm MQ, because I am fortunate to be able to play 10-15 hours a week. There are those who are unable to play that much and that can place epics out of reach for many. I may not be able to raid posky for 6 hours, but I can save enough money to purchase my epic over the course of a year of consistent play. There are classes that can make money significantly faster than I can, but you don't see me calling for nerfs to those classes because I chose not to play them.

The notion of fairness suggested in your posts is nothing more than subsidizing failure while penalizing success. It ensures that epics are reserved only for a select few, regardless of investment. Please consider this.

[fadetree]

rage against the nature of Man,
rain falling into the ocean,
beautiful and useless.