GM Available for Discussion on What are actually considered camps?

[lordlandric]

Was hoping there might be a Gm available to go over what is actually considered a camp in the game/p99 blue server. Had some issues tonight with someone in rathe mountains over a large area they were claiming to camp. The were claiming to be camping the area from the lake rathe zone in to all the way back by findel grobs tower . Basically the whole mountain and lower area surrounding . It was a 53 wanderer to who all the mobs were green. they were ae snaring all the giants skellies and such as they popped running all around and bringing them to Cynthia's camp. basically Pling her friend as she quoted. Now as far I know I thought an entire area of roaming mobs is really not a camp. I understand if it was a static mob spawing in an area such as findel grobbs tower or the bandit camp on the mountain then yes that is a camp. Am I wrong? Just looking for some advice on this. Yes they were upset we killed a skellie that was by us as she was running around gathering them. Been playing eq since just after its release in beta back in the 90ies. Never heard of that area being a camp. Any advice please would be appreciated. There might be another conflict tomarrow if she is pling there again. Btw we were a 33 mag and 30 chanter so the mobs are blue to us for exp. Thank you much appreciated and please excuse the spelling errors if any lol.

[Bboboo]

Norrath has many zones.

[abacab-bansdontwork]

A camp is whatever I let you have.

[Uteunayr]

The full rules are listed here: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=132299

"Project 1999 Staff will not be defining what constitutes a camp. Instead, Project 1999 Customer Service Staff will arbitrate spawn disputes on a per-case-basis. We greatly encourage players to find their own resolution to spawn disputes, as the solution provided by the staff will at best be a win-lose situation, and possbily a lose-lose situation. No two decisions, even at the same 'camp', are guaranteed to be the same, as we will take into account multiple factors in making a determination on a 'camp'."

And then, more specifically to your situation:

"That being said, you can absolutely "camp" mobs, and you cannot steal another players 'camp'. In general, if the placeholder or placeholders for a spawn are being killed, that 'camp' can be considered held by the player doing the killing so long as they are keeping the placeholders cleared. You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it. You cannot hold multiple 'camps' if another group wishes to contest one that you are holding. The player holding multiple 'camps' retains the right to choose which 'camp' to give up."

What this means is that you can camp as much as you want, until someone else comes in. Once someone comes and wants some, you must split the camps you are taking. You can keep a camp to yourself, but you must be close to (probably within range of to be safe) the spawn point. While you're there, someone else can go to another mob's spawn point and claim that one as their camp.

You would probably not be considered camp stealing to take roaming mobs. Unless the person is sitting there at the spawn point of the roaming mob, one isn't camping it. Generally (although not exactly), roaming mobs are not camped. So, I do believe you would be in the right to grab some of the roaming Giant Skeletons and killing them, so long as you did not try to steal a mob they had engaged first.

[Ambrotos]

If it moves in a open zone it's a fair game and not a camp.

[quido]

can I camp every static in a closed zone? is that a camp?

[lordlandric]

thanks uteunayr . well that is basically what happed. We were in the back by the tower killing findel grobb and the first skellie we grabbed she apparently had snared and was out of view running around gathering more. so didn't realize it til she ran back and explained. feel bad about taking the mob that's when it all exploded. I didn't think you could camp the entire area of roamers. I never had an issue like that before. everyone had there groups and ran and pulled something back to there group and helped kill yard trash back in the day. I appreciate the answer and yes I read the server rules hehe.

[lordlandric]

thank you ambrotos I thought that's how is was. it wasn't trying to get something like the ac to pop in south ro. its all just random mobs walking all over that area except the bandits on top of that mountain which I understand would be a static camp.

[radditsu]

A camp is an overly explained constuct with an precise definition because neckbeards cant get along and be human beings. I blame the earth slowing its rotation by .0000000006 meters a day causing the humans chemical brain balance to slowly degrade.



We are living in Southland Tales time.

[JayN]

everything is FTE, most players respect each others camps