Rogues

[harnold]

I am considering playing a rogue but before I start I'd like to know how boring it is from any current rogues. I am used to playing casters so I am afraid that I will be utterly bored to death with a rogue.

Is playing a rogue boring? There isnt much skill involved and in general doesnt require a brain. I am thinking it might be a class for heavy alcoholics, children, elderly, or disabled.

If any rogues can give a testimonial about why you have fun or dont have fun playing a rogue please do.

[Nubben]

If that's how you feel about the class, then why are you even considering it? It sounds like rogue isn't the class for you. This game is over 15 years old, and there are tons of guides and forum posts about the class. What are you expecting to hear in this thread that will magically change your mind? If you think the class looks fun, go ahead and roll one and see if it's for you. If you think the class looks boring and lacking, then don't.

[Ciroco]

Very low potential. Next thread please.

[mipstien]

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[Supaskillz]

I have fun playing a rogue for a variety reasons.

1.I will start with my bias reason which is I played one live and mostly came to the server for nostalgia.
2. Gear matters. I think a big part of the enjoyment of the game is chasing that next upgrade, but for casters those upgrades are near meaningless outside of clickies and I find that boring.
3. You deal lots of dmg. I just find it fun bringing the beats.
4. You can be a good puller and also make monks and Sk's better pullers if you know what you are doing.
5 no button mashing, you can actually carry on a conversation in game while playing.
6. I like being able to explore with sneak.
7. Illusions! GTFO enchanters don't want to hear it.
8. Forced to group always. This is a negative for most people but I think more people would have more fun if they grouped all the time, but they can't resist the slightly faster xp they get soloing.

I am first to admit toolkit is limited compared to many classes, primarily just a dps specialist, but I still have lots of fun.

[Aviann]

Tbh, playing a rogue has been more fun than any of my characters previously, which is just about all of them, but I still see it being a personal preference over a monk. As a rogue, you really do have to worry at times about aggro, or you can be eaten alive, and keeping yourself positioned behind when against a wall can be just as hard as keeping the mob faced away from a group.

It is exciting to see the high numbers roll by as you backstab, and the quick melee you recieve with most weapons keeps you awake while waiting for those exciting numbers. Just like a decent nuke, and backstab shows noticeable hp loss on just about any casual mob(casual as in common).

The majority of my excitement as a rogue came to me while doing corpse runs for myself and my friends. You aren't worried about invis dropping, which is a giant plus, but you are moving slowly and can be at risk of wandering or hiding mobs who see invis.

A giant downside to playing a rogue is that you are basically forced to join forces with another player, but I've duo'd with numerous casters and a shit ton of bandages so don't let yourself feel limited, especially in groups with other rogues already. You are built for dps like a Plexiglas cannon, and we must admit that DPS is DPS. If you need a tank, a slower, a healer and 3 dps, fine, take 3 rogues and you can't go wrong.

All around, rogues are amazing, fun to play, exciting at most times, and very beneficial to have around.

[Pint]

Damnit I thought you were a people's champion, not a low tier troll. To your question though, yea rogues are boring as fuck. PL one to 60 me gear it and never touch it unless you're slaying a dragon.

[Supaskillz]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The majority of my excitement as a rogue came to me while doing corpse runs for myself and my friends. You aren't worried about invis dropping, which is a giant plus, but you are moving slowly and can be at risk of wandering or hiding mobs who see invis.

Corpse runs are fun now that hide is not easy mode where nothing sees you. Following see invis roamers etc is a good time. I doubt many people know spawn locations, Los limits, and roaming paths in seb better than I because you have to if you want to be effective on crs.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Corpse runs are fun now that hide is not easy mode where nothing sees you. Following see invis roamers etc is a good time. I doubt many people know spawn locations, Los limits, and roaming paths in seb better than I because you have to if you want to be effective on crs.

Haha yea, had to learn that shit quickly, as well as how to strafe while sneaking.

[Juevento]

Biased but whatever. I think rogues are great. Like Supa said they are second to none for sustained DPS. After that there are so many small roles rogues can play during raids/groups that make the class a pleasure to learn inside and out.

For example, with the recent sneak changes, rogues are probably 1b with monks in terms of pulling. Rogues have the advantage of much better resist gear so they are less squishy when pulling casters. Plus if you role a dwarf you get a +5 MR boost. For raids, a competent monk/rogue pull team can work wonders.

Sneaking through dungeons is a ton of fun. Try to find new ways to get to past all those pesky see invis mobs to get to your group. You'll be surprised I think at the skill involved in getting your timing, the mob pathing, and positioning just so to avoid agro so that you can scamper by and get the corpse of your fallen group mate.

Rogues are probably the best melee class for farming stuff due to their DPS output. If you are lucky enough to obtain a thornstinger and Mrylokar's BP, you can kill low level mobs endlessly and essentially farm an entire dungeon.

Also, consider becoming a poison maker, if for no other reason than to be able to snare your opponent when doing PvP.

I suspect if you master any class, you find lots of intricacies that you wouldn't have thought of before. But for me, nothing beats the risk vs reward of being a thief.