Path of Exile: imo d2 spiritual successor (Free to Play)

myxomatosii · #1 02-01-2014, 07:06 PM

edit: 10:15pm video says it'll be up in 5 mins. nothing special but it'll be nice for those who have never played to see, d2 fans esp

To start, D2 is probably my favorite game ever made.

Never touched D3. DRM, RMT, and all the other poor decisions forced me to make the ethical decision to boycott it. Heard about Path of Exile a few days ago from a guildie and had low hopes but with today's internet it takes like 1 hr to try a new game so I queue'd it up.

Upon logging in I was blown away. D3 isn't D3, PoE is D3.

I'm only level 6 right now but I made a video to share with you guys. Nothing flashy, just basic day 1 gameplay. Enjoy. Friend me if you play, Jupiter Jazz on Steam.

Not sure how ingrained microtransactions are yet, but hopefully they've cornered the f2p the way it should be, vanity, dev support, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yyl...ature=youtu.be

Video should be live in two hours or so.

Tradesonred · #2 02-01-2014, 07:14 PM

Its pretty cool for a diablo like game, free to play with no pay to win schemes to boot, but it gets boring when u near the end as the grinding starts to get more heavy.

Needs some PVP mode like Dota imo

stormlord · #3 02-01-2014, 07:30 PM

I think the spiritual successor is actually Torchlight 2. It's made by the same people who worked on Diablo 2 and were not allowed to work on Diablo 3. The only real change from Diablo 2 is there's no real attempt to keep players on the same network and to ensure they're all playing by the same rules. So what you have is a plethora of Torchlight 2 games and many are following their own rules. People can cheat and create items at will. Beyond this, Torchlight 2 IS the spiritual successor to Diablo 2.

One thing you don't mention is Path of Exile doesn't use random maps. Torchlight 2 does. And I don't think Path of Exile has a single player game. Torchlight 2 does. Probably lots of other things. Oh, and Torchlight 2 can now be substantially modded because GUTS has been released. Can Path of Exile do that?

http://www.torchlight2game.com/news/2013/04/01/guts/

Torchlight 2 is freedom. No big man at the top to push you around.

Learn more here:
http://www.torchlight2game.com/

Pheer · #4 02-01-2014, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the spiritual successor is actually Torchlight 2. It's made by the same people who worked on Diablo 2 and were not allowed to work on Diablo 3. The only real change from Diablo 2 is there's no real attempt to keep players on the same network and to ensure they're all playing by the same rules. So what you have is a plethora of Torchlight 2 games and many are following their own rules. People can cheat and create items at will. Beyond this, Torchlight 2 IS the spiritual successor to Diablo 2.

One thing you don't mention is Path of Exile doesn't use random maps. Torchlight 2 does. And I don't think Path of Exile has a single player game. Torchlight 2 does. Probably lots of other things. Oh, and Torchlight 2 can now be substantially modded because GUTS has been released. Can Path of Exile do that?

Torchlight 2 is freedom. No big man at the top to push you around.

Learn more here:
http://www.torchlight2game.com/

Path of exile has static zones and their connections to eachother, but maps are always random. In fact the end game content is entirely randomly generated maps

Also PoE has the best item system out of any ARPG ever made. Even a random white item drop can be worth picking up or even quite valuable with the way crafting works.

Torchlight 2 is a fun game to mess around on, but to call it more of a spiritual successor to D2 than PoE is just ridiculous

stormlord · #5 02-01-2014, 10:12 PM

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Path of exile has static zones and their connections to eachother, but maps are always random. In fact the end game content is entirely randomly generated maps

Also PoE has the best item system out of any ARPG ever made. Even a random white item drop can be worth picking up or even quite valuable with the way crafting works.

Torchlight 2 is a fun game to mess around on, but to call it more of a spiritual successor to D2 than PoE is just ridiculous

I was led to believe the areas in POE are not as well randomly generated as they're in Torchlight 2. I'm wrong to use that as an example if they're better than I'm led to believe they're.

All in all, I think it's a split between POE and Torchlight 2, and they're heads above Diablo 3 as being a spiritual successor to Diablo 2. Then again, there're probably a lot of people who like Diablo 3 the way it's.

In Torchlight 2 there're complaints about the limited respeccing in vanilla. Of course, people can download mods to allow unlimited free respeccing. That's the benefit of Torchlight 2 being a single player type of game with less controlled multiplayer, as opposed to a strictly controlled online game ONLY.

And btw I really love how POE is F2P with only vanity items in the cash shop.

Uteunayr · #6 02-02-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the spiritual successor is actually Torchlight 2. It's made by the same people who worked on Diablo 2 and were not allowed to work on Diablo 3. The only real change from Diablo 2 is there's no real attempt to keep players on the same network and to ensure they're all playing by the same rules. So what you have is a plethora of Torchlight 2 games and many are following their own rules. People can cheat and create items at will. Beyond this, Torchlight 2 IS the spiritual successor to Diablo 2.

Torchlight II was created by Runic Games which was created by the co-founders of the Diablo series while working at Blizzard North before Blizzard fired Blizzard North and merged with Activision and put Jay Wilson, a RTS game developer, in charge of Diablo 3.

With Torchlight II, add SynergiesMOD to it, and you have about as close to a true Diablo 3 as you will ever see. PoE has the artistic style of Diablo and Diablo 2, but I remain with Torchlight II + SynergiesMOD. Lacking a true Necromancer bothers me in most games. So yes, I agree. It feels like I am playing Diablo 2 in Torchlight II far more than I am in PoE in all ways except artistic style. Heck, even being able to cheat brings me back to open Battle.net. There's some fun to be had with having cheats and exploits available.

PoE is clearly in the Diablo tradition far more than some games out there that are in the same genre, but that doesn't make it a spiritual successor in my eyes.

myxomatosii · #7 02-01-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stormlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the spiritual successor is actually Torchlight 2. It's made by the same people who worked on Diablo 2 and were not allowed to work on Diablo 3. The only real change from Diablo 2 is there's no real attempt to keep players on the same network and to ensure they're all playing by the same rules. So what you have is a plethora of Torchlight 2 games and many are following their own rules. People can cheat and create items at will. Beyond this, Torchlight 2 IS the spiritual successor to Diablo 2.

One thing you don't mention is Path of Exile doesn't use random maps. Torchlight 2 does. And I don't think Path of Exile has a single player game. Torchlight 2 does. Probably lots of other things. Oh, and Torchlight 2 can now be substantially modded because GUTS has been released. Can Path of Exile do that?

http://www.torchlight2game.com/news/2013/04/01/guts/

Torchlight 2 is freedom. No big man at the top to push you around.

Learn more here:
http://www.torchlight2game.com/

I've played TL2, I stand behind it too. Great game.

The UI elements of PoE really got me tho. Its great to have the same type of inventory etc.

Also the end of d2 was nothing but a grind. i mean btw MF meph/pindles etc and baal hammerdins it was all a grind. but an excellent grind.

one thing i wish it had was the d2 style chat room where your avatar was your actual char, so badass.

Oogei · #8 02-01-2014, 07:48 PM

Path of exile is an amazing game. The gameplay, crafting, skill system and overall freedom of the game is great., however it's easy to get burnt out on it. Also the RNG for bis items like (6-linked socket chests, weapons etc, is almost impossible to obtain. You don't "need" shit like that to have fun, but if you want to solo very difficult maps you will.

Shaakglith12194 · #9 02-01-2014, 07:58 PM

I played PoE, got a couple chars to like 28 (one I played solo and one with a buddy). I got burned out the minute I replayed a dungeon and thought, "man, I can't wait to get this over with" and it felt like a chore instead of fun. In D2 it was fun repeating zones for some reason, but in PoE I just felt bored. Not putting the game down, it may just be that I'm jaded. Hope you continue to enjoy yourself!

myxomatosii · #10 02-01-2014, 08:04 PM

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I played PoE, got a couple chars to like 28 (one I played solo and one with a buddy). I got burned out the minute I replayed a dungeon and thought, "man, I can't wait to get this over with" and it felt like a chore instead of fun. In D2 it was fun repeating zones for some reason, but in PoE I just felt bored. Not putting the game down, it may just be that I'm jaded. Hope you continue to enjoy yourself!

Hmm, I hope this doesn't happen.

Worst to worst I'm sure d2's community is still active. Gotta get back to that.