Rogean - Open Discussion for Forced PNP (Play Nice Policy)

[Stasis01]

Proposal to add a GM forced PNP. As this server has turned into a resistance of mostly new players going against a fully geared VP guild (with the help of a few geared resistance members like Lite's crew and HB inner circle)

It is fairly obvious that the receiving end of beatings is usually new guilds to the server (Heresy, Force, Azrael early on, and now Red Dawn)

I am requesting, that if a guild fights another guild - the guild leader of the LOSING guild/team can request a guild LNS which would include leaving the zone for the rest of the night (or we can make it more specific like 5-10 hrs)

This is a true enhancement to the box that would encourage PVP and less fear of engaging a lop sided fight (90% of fights on the box)

I don't think this would fix the entire community of it's toxic attitude, but it would be a good place to start.

I appreciate the response on Variance - and really think this would help alleviate some of the grief caused by the have's to the have not's.

[Stasis01]

Let's all care about making this a fun server, and less about "I"LL FUCKING MAKE YOU QUIT"

[Nizzarr]

holy fuck shit cant you enjoy the game as it is

[Stasis01]

Further on this point - when it is single PVP, or small grp vs small grp PVP this rule is not required.

It is easier for the player to just log for a few hours and let the heat pass. The problem comes when players have 30-40 corpses, they will sit on them all night to cause grief and make the weaker players quit.

An example of this would be the fight in OT (you can see the leaderboard for the result) regardless, this has turned into Nihi camping OT corpses for the rest of the night. VP geared toons sitting on undergeared resistance members fighting for just the sake of fun pvp, no mobs involved.

Plus, if the guild leader does not call it(or person in charge) then CC/zone locking and everything goes still applies. It requires the LEADER to call DEFEAT and that they are LEAVING WITHOUT QQ.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holy fuck shit cant you enjoy the game as it is

I speak for the people who quit, and the weak - I have not quit by now, your grief does not affect me, I just look out for others.

[Stasis01]

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This is Red Dawn and Azrael resing up Nihi members not more than a few days ago - HB has told his members that griefing is not allowed. He PL's/Helps EQ Mac players and the VP geared resident guild responds by griefing, corpse camping, and shit talking.

This is not an unrealistic request - and Red Dawn has put forth every effort to be civilized with these people. We need GM's help to clean up the red99 act.

[evilldacbane]

Guilds rezzing others guilds makes me sick.

[Fawqueue]

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holy fuck shit cant you enjoy the game as it is

Says this about EverQuest, but probably gripes all the time about how unfair it is that he's making shit wages and the rich are making it impossible for him to earn a living.

Things people at the top say to people at the bottom...

[Tassador]

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holy fuck shit cant you enjoy the game as it is

We do need transporters and melee bond though sire!

[Ryko]

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This is Red Dawn and Azrael resing up Nihi members not more than a few days ago - HB has told his members that griefing is not allowed. He PL's/Helps EQ Mac players and the VP geared resident guild responds by griefing, corpse camping, and shit talking.

This is not an unrealistic request - and Red Dawn has put forth every effort to be civilized with these people. We need GM's help to clean up the red99 act.

My historical recollection:

Fear raid(early days): red dawn members(azrael spy) de-guilds, azrael zones, wipes red dawn, sits on corpse

Hate raid(early days): Plane of hate, azrael ports in while red dawn is trained at entrance, whipes raid, beastagor feigns and waits on corpse... the "bad guys" Nihilum come to a call for help, remove azrael and rez red dawn to go on with there day.

CoM (ohhh goddddd COM): doing epic fight for patecatl. Azrael continuously griefs red dawn out of COM, for two days straight, one shotting rezzed player as soon as they zone in. finally whipe red dawn fully inside the temple. Tune and gang come to a call for help, clear out Azrael, rez red dawn and push the fight out into EJ where Lite and Stasis persistently swooped in.

GUILD Bind during hate: American, and pals corpse camp people as they die in Hate for ohhh..... 3 hours?

Forumquest: Nizzar states: do not raid/group with Azrael or there will consequences, we disregard...

Fear Rihilum zones into fear out numbered... kills Red Dawn at the entrance... and what do the evil bad guys do... Let us LNS and leave us alone to clear Hate...


To be fair... i stopped paying attention/giving a fuck after that fateful day.... i hear that Nihilum has been nasty since then, but from what I read, it seems to be random gank squads partaking in open world PVP on an open world PVP server...

LET ME KNOW YOUR FEELERS!!!! thos are mine