P1999 Loot Specifics

[Salient]

Since my prior EQ playing experience was on a POP server, I am finding myself increasingly unfamiliar with many classic era details. For instance, I noticed that many of the gear items linked on the P99 wiki are lacking the caster focus effects etc., with which I am accustomed. So if someone could specifically address a few of my questions it would greatly appreciated:

1) Is there a specific date that P1999 is most closely modeled after? Yes "P1999" seems an obvious answer. But I've discovered, what seems to be, EQ era loot conflicts while comparing P1999 wiki gear links with actual 1999 era drops listed on the EQ Internet Archive Database and on Alla's Lucy page.

For instance " A Dread Widow" located in the DL drops "Drachnid Thyxl" : a caster only item, without the ERIII focus, that this server lists as loot. However on Lucy it says that this loot's initial entry was 12/27/2002. http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemhistory.html?id=11981

So knowing a few of these details will greatly aid my time spent researching what loot is or is not available on the server.


Which then leads to #2

2) At which date or era were caster focus effects first implemented? Because I've never not known them to exist. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and

B) If there are focus effects presently available on this server, is there a server list compiled of those working or broken? As often seems to be the case on many of the other EQEmu servers?

I guess that about does it. I haven't started a character yet but I've been looking into the possibility of getting involved here. And since the Classic era has it's definite, accentuated, challenges and rewards, I just want to have a clear understanding of what lies ahead for the commitment it entails.


Thanks. Your knowledge and comments are appreciated.

[SamwiseRed]

wut? no focus items yet. when they added focus to items they added the effect to classic loot as well.

also wiki is player created/maintained.

[pharmakos]

P99 is currently modeled after a patch or two before Velious' release

if you see stuff that is not era appropriate for that, post it in the Bugs forum. preferably with links (like the link you already have [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) to support your bug claim.

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[Thulack]

Focus effects weren't added to items til after luclin i believe it was. The only items with focus effects on them atm are the mage quested items with pet focuses and the Book from Inny that has pet focus for necro. Lucy's dates only go back so far because Lucy wasnt around when EQ was created. p1999 is trying to follow the Classic>Kunark>velious timeline as much as possible but die to patches in the future and such some bugs and changes have slipped through the cracks so there are always bug reports to make. Having evidence from archived class sites and alla's and such are how they go about changing things.

[heartbrand]

It's a shame about focus effects particularly for pvp they add meaningful item progression to casters in a melee dominated world

[kylok]

http://web.archive.org/web/200005110...llakhazam.com/

This link shows that the item was in game as of Oct 26 2000 with no focus effect - I believe that the entry of lucy that you linked was when they added the focus effect to it, and probably re-entered the item into the database (hence why it says initial entry in 2002)

[Kender]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://web.archive.org/web/200005110...llakhazam.com/

This link shows that the item was in game as of Oct 26 2000 with no focus effect - I believe that the entry of lucy that you linked was when they added the focus effect to it, and probably re-entered the item into the database (hence why it says initial entry in 2002)

nah lucy was created in 2002 so all items can only have at the earliest a 2002 first entry regardless

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

By the time eq got to planes of power, the game was well into the era of truly "fat loot." Items with lots of stats, and lots of +hp and +mana, proliferated. This inflation of gear *has not started yet*. p99 is in the late Kunark era currently, and really outrageous gear is the rarest exception, not the norm. During the current era on p99, one is usually getting "excited" about gear upgrades that often only have maybe an extra 2 or 3 points in a certain stat. Just take a look at currently in-game caster robes for a rough idea of how modest classic era loot is.

The inflation of loot only starts, imo, in the upcoming Velious era, and really then starts to take off in the next era, that of Luclin. Of course, Velious is not here yet; as for Luclin, if the p99 devs even do that expansion, my ballpark estimate is it would probably be sometime around 2016 before we would see it.

This server is waaaaay stretched out as far as its time scale goes. If you are familiar with the PoP era mechanics and loot, we are talking about this server maybe sometime around 2020.

tl;dr version: loot inflation starts in the Velious era, starts to really take off in Luclin, where you also have the AA point malarkey, and basically almost turns into a different game by the time we get to PoP.

Get used to very tiny differences in loot, in other words. Forget about getting a bunch of stuff that each adds +75hp and +75 mana and double digit stat numbers. That's stuff that simply is super-super rare during this era.

[pharmakos]

^^ the devs have said that this server will never get Luclin, nor any expansions past that

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^ the devs have said that this server will never get Luclin, nor any expansions past that

That is because they fear the end of their massive, and subtle, plat farming via a vast network of druid and wizard porters.

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