PVP Talks tonight decide Red99 fate

[Stasis01]

We have big nerds who like to look big in a little pond - this box has none of the fun aspects of live or VZTZ.

The rule set is to blame, not the players - if you wiped red99 and recreated the same rule set it would be the same situation even if Nizzar did not play - Holocaust would have done the same thing if they had won.

We need a fresh start and a new rule set. This box is filled with bitterness, and griefing. There is no fun on this box other than the top guild, which the rule set favors highly.

This will be the deciding factor for a lot of players that I have talked to - Rexx/Knuckle realise after their hate trash groups are getting corpse camped (they are lvl 55/53) that these guys don't care about box population or really any other players here. I can't imagine them giving this a real shot and most likely just quitting, like every other group of players/stragglers that have come here. We have 59 people playing on Saturday at 10am, and most likely there's quite a few boxing.

I repeat the rule set created this attitude.

TEAMS- for community/safety for casuals new players

VARIANCE- for end game competition/elimination of zerg tactic being the only viable strategy for a guild

BOXING- This is red99, people want to play the heavy hitting melee, or the heavy DPS caster - finding clerics and enchanters outside of the main PVE guilds, or for groups is impossible, and really boxing was classic - just only allow one box so people don't kill it Sam style.

GROUP EXP BONUS- incentive to invite that shitty rogue with rusty daggers, he increases the groups experience


Little changes won't do - the red99 population is beaten and fed up. The population/attitude on box has shown this every day - LOG ON AND READ OOC, TALK TO THE PLAYERS. One guild happy doing PVE progression on your dime is ridiculous you might as well pull the plug at that point. They shit on your efforts to create a classic PVP box, and the rule set allows them to act exactly how they do and they argue the positives of it.

Last chance devs - if this is micky mouse changes I am out, will cash my loot out and fuck around on blue, that's not a threat, this is just the last breath. Red99 is shit, and it could be great.

[Rec]

I will be tuning in for this very exciting twitch discussion tonight

[Bazia]

Server's fine, this is a FFA PVP server

All that is needed is fixed resists, we've been needing that for a long time

Boxing is for faggots, specifically anytime free accounts are involved

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have 59 people playing on Saturday at 10am, and most likely there's quite a few boxing.

Yeah I just reported Brainz super fucking obvious CoM box duo

Basiah Heresy Krunch 0 The City of Mist 8/31/2013 3:02:53 AM
Basiah Heresy Krunch 3 The City of Mist 8/31/2013 2:57:17 AM
Basiah Union Shpoopty

Shit's a joke man redcon epic shm and fungi twink war dying to a semi nude CLR

Only annoying thing about boxing is the most obvious abusers seem to never be punished

[HeisChuck]

will be clubbing no time for more nonsense from devs

[Stasis01]

I am close pal - will hold out till after tonight to make my final judgement.

[krazyGlue]

Stasis I think a lot of us that haven't been loging in are on the same boat as you

[heartbrand]

This is an emulated eq pvp server with locked/limited content and little to no pvp bug fixes. There's little you can do to change things here. You want competition but who really has the beard to no life Kunark loot they don't need for sixteen months to store in bank? Outside of nihilum no1. The issue will always be not enough content, and the short term answer is velious, however velious is going to require 55-60 people raiding and this server unless blue transfers happen will never support two guilds of that size, prolly not even one.

Tl;dr not enough content will always keep server pop down, the only reason blue avoids this is because of the ecommons blooming onion metagame as well as a huge amount of people just there for "the journey". No one is on red for the journey.

Only way red can ever be something more is huge drastic custom changes that incentivize pvp, with pvp merchants and all sorts of shit which will never happen here. Shrug just my thought process, but im immersed in ff14 right now

[heartbrand]

Even that isn't a "fix", by that I mean yes more targets will be opened up which I guess theoretically is beneficial to server, but I don't think it's the type of fix that brings in 100+ players or 200+ players. I could be wrong tho brews. I'm a big supporter of enabling two boxing tho and only two boxing, and you should have to register the accounts and shit and if one gets banned the other gets banned.

My only point is a lot of the focus seems to be on nihilum. While I get the frustration, keep in mind I was on the other side for over a year, at the end of the day I don't think that most of the people who quit here did so cuz of the end game scene, because many of those people went back to blue where its even worse! It's fundamental fixes needed here with a relaunch and perhaps some custom content that incentivizes pvp like tokens and shit to keep people playing as well as dynamic gm events a couple times a month that force people to cross guild or FFA with no gay all nihilum team together shit (sorry duke but I hate when we do that at events).

[Stasis01]

Oh transparent HB.