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If I asked you, "DSM, if you could only pack four things in your suitcase, what would they be?" I would not expect you to reply with, "I would pack A, B, C and D in my suitcase, but then I would also carry X, Y and Z in my pockets," as doing so completely evades the purpose of the question, which is to spur debate over the value of various options given the artificially imposed restraints. Similarly, when we have a thread about the best four person group, it is implied within the framework of the question itself that we limit our replies to four classes. By insisting that your response be allowed to include pocket characters and alts, you are flatly disregarding the spirit of the question at hand, are disrespecting the OP and all the other posters in the thread, as well as the forum itself. It is the equivalent of attending an art exhibition, projectile vomiting all over a blank canvas and proudly declaring to the stunned and disgusted crowd that, "Look everyone, I can make art too!" | |||
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But we are not here to discuss vocabulary.
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I haven't said "You can bring your level 60 raid geared Warrior to help this group" anywhere in this thread, so I am not sure why you keep assuming that. It sounds like you don't understand the difference between a pocket character and an alt/main character. You need to read my post more carefully, so you can understand what a pocket character is: https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4706 No, I am not disrespecting this thread/forum by talking about pocket characters, which are a common strategy in P99. OP did not exclude them, and you cannot make this exclusion for OP. Finally, I am not sure how I can evade the question of "what are you going to pack in your suitcase?" by telling you exactly what I am packing lol. Telling someone "This is what's in my suitcase, and I also put my Wallet in my pockets for easy access", is not an evasion. You are answering the question and providing additonal information.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 06-16-2024 at 05:38 PM..
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![]() To Vexenu, I think you are getting too hung up on an extreme interpetation of the question posed in this thread. When looking at your luggage example, examine it a bit more critically. Almost everybody has keys and a wallet. You use your keys for your house/appartment and/or your car. You use your wallet for money. People also need to wear clothes in public, so you must have clothing on as well. You are most likely wearing shoes too.
What you are doing is taking the question of "What are the four most important items you would take while traveling?" to the most literal extreme. When you do this, we know that everybody is going to put Wallet, Keys, Clothes, and Shoes as their first four items. This is obviously against the spirit of the question, as it is really asking "What are the first four items you would put into your suitcase, assuming you have the common things everybody has?" There is nothing wrong with saying: "I acknowledge that I have Shoes on, Clothes on, a Wallet in my pocket, and keys in my pocket. Excluding these obvious items, my top four picks for the suitcase would be A, B, C, and D." This ensures people understand you have already thought about these items, and are not excluding them from the suitcase for some reason. This also shows you may be including specific items because you know you have Clothes, Shoes, a Wallet, and Keys. Mules and Pocket Characters are the same. I am pointing out the obvious that Mules and Pocket Characters exist. Their existance is informing my decision of which four classes I would pick. Nobody has suggested putting a Druid/Wizard into the group to sell items in EC quickly via teleport due to everybody's banks/bags being full.This is because we already acknowledge that this group of four players can just make mules to store more stuff. This lessens the utility of a Druid/Wizard, but everybody agrees this is fair because they make mules anyway. You can think of pocket characters in the same manner. It is a common practice to make pocket clerics for Ressurection, because it is fairly cheap and easy to make a level 49 Cleric for this purpose. This lessens the utility of a Cleric, but people agree this is fair because they make pocket clerics anyway. It is not easy or cheap to make a level 60 Torpor Shaman with Torpor and raid gear for use as a pocket character, so it isn't comparable to suggest a level 49 pocket cleric is the same as a level 60 Torpor Shaman with raid gear.
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