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Originally Posted by Mcbard
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The issue and resolution everyone else in the thread seems set on enacting is rotating mobs between not the "top guilds" but "anybody capable of killing a mob" so that the 500 level 60s on the server all get a chance at raid mobs because they don't want to log their characters out prepared and track. They wish to have their cake and eat it too.. which I don't recall being classic.
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Wait, so what about tracking mobs for 4 day windows is classic?
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That comes off kind of dickish, but seriously this is what it seems to boil down to from everything I've been reading on this subject in the last couple of weeks. "Man we really want to kill dragons, but on this server you have to track them during their windows and have your force buffed, logged out, and prepared to do so in order to kill anything, and we don't want to do that since it's not what we did in classic!"
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It's the fact that you have to track them for insane amounts of time (more than what was required in classic), and even if you do that, usually one of the top two guilds has either 30+ people logged on in the zone at the time, or 30+ people camped out next to the boss. Assuming they don't, you have a pretty good chance that the mob is going to spawn when your guild isn't even awake. In other words, the variance requires an unreasonable time investment. It's not that we're all not skilled or hardcore enough to compete on your level; it's that we just can't invest that much time into a game. If you love competition so much, you would either (a) want to lower the entry cost for aspiring guilds participating in the raid scene, or (b) stop doing things that are antithetical to competition (like poopsocking, or camping your guild near the boss, which is basically the same thing). And maybe if you're nice enough they'll open VP for you.
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Originally Posted by Nizzarr
Work harder and youll get raid mobs too. or you can try and whine about a rotation on forums, that sure is less time intensive.
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Wow. Do you really think it's due to "hard work" that you have relative success on this server?