[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by chillybob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

linking that silly ass post (that you drafted this morning at 6am) has got to be ragebait. Tpos Icepaw (killable easily by any enchanter with a brain at level 57) on the same level as the others? A crystal destroyer is harder than khelkar in some instances.

The thread has been around for many weeks, with Kerd and Bled on the Solo God tier from the very start.

Saying one or two things you disagree with and ignoring the validity of the whole is not helpful, nor intelligent. As has already been stated, the placements are not set in stone. The entire point of these threads is to discuss the exact MOB specifics and come to the most objective placement.

Tpos is in that tier because of how many MOBs surround him. Enchanters to date have abused non-classic lull for these camps; it becomes significantly more time consuming and dangerous when that isn't an option. So far nobody else has said they think Tpos should be moved down a tier. Please describe why you think it will be so easy to split the entire upper dogs area. And are you saying you think Crystal Destroyer should be in God tier, or what?

Originally Posted by chillybob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even without using pacify (which if its as broken as you insist why can't we get a bug report getting it permanently fixed?) you can do silly tricks for pulls using mesmerize abusing blur + social aggro mechanics.
Same for Khelkar's room.... Lets say we don't use pacify....
Rapture Khelkar, stun + fascinate the adds and then kill them 1 by 1. Easy.

There is a bug report (literally linked in the first post of both threads), with the exact classic data, and it's been dev acknowledged that lulls are indeed wrong and will need to be changed.

Your stated Khelkar method is ofc one possible way, but it's not a guarantee given resists that can happen. Possibly he could go down a tier, but so far other posters have said they think the current category is correct.

If you think Prince Selrach is so easy to solo without lull, feel free to make a video of it and be the first person with an S+ kill of him on the Hall of Fame, and in the meantime describe exactly how you think the pull would work. Also just objectively looking at the encounter, wouldn't you say it's significantly harder than other things that have already been worthy of being considered solo god tier?

Originally Posted by chillybob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

go park 50 druid pets in PoM and show me you soloing BB puppet to make this realistic.

Where did the Druid talk come from? I don't think they'd be able to do it, the unslowed Bristlebane Puppet does too much damage for the pets they'd be able to line up. Enchanter however may be possible with 3 pets, which is an amount they can feasibly park before the fight. Have you ever seen anyone try? (I doubt it)

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Originally Posted by CrazyPro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All guildmasters have 32k HP, some may in fact have been given 2 million HP post-kunark.

What's your source for them all having 32k? The 2 million number also contradicts what you were trying to say earlier, and is something that shows how all of these GM's need to be individually tested either way. For now they have to be placed somewhere, and after people report back with actual facts, then their tiers can be altered (and the wiki pages updated).