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Old 10-11-2016, 10:56 PM
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Surprisingly, there really aren't any major studies that have been done that have provided any conclusive evidence that a vegan diet is more or less healthy. I never argued that it's healthier, just that it's not less healthy and that the fact that it "Goes against nature" is a stupid defense given how many things technology has allowed us to do that "Go against nature".
Our teeth break meat apart perfectly fine. We possess both the sharpness and the strength in our teeth to easily chew and grind meat to make it easily digestible by our bodies.

Beyond that, we also possess the capacity to cook food which makes it even easier to eat. Perhaps that had something to do with the shape of our teeth. Like a warning, its easier if you cook it.
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Human teeth are shaped like an omnivore's. So what? The human body can also only survive between 4 and 35 degrees celsius, should we stop using AC and furnaces because it's "Unnatural"? We do what we need to do, technologically, to continue to thrive and if we don't continue to make progress in providing alternative diets that don't rely on meats we can't keep up with the demand. Meat production is unsustainable given our current projected population growth and there aren't really any credible sources that refute that.
Not true in any way. This kind of propaganda is put out by the same people that claim there is man-made global warming and endorse eugenics, but has been debunked on every level by tens of thousands of scientists.

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As far as morality is concerned, the meat industry tortures living things. You can wax relativist on it and start talking about the differences between an animal's experience versus a human's or you can try to discuss the cruel realities that exist in nature. You can even get real first year philosophy major up ins and suggest that morality is completely subjective but that line of thinking is useless at best, pretty damn dangerous at worst.

None of that changes the fact that humans, as highly developed analytical creatures with the ability to adapt to external pressures and internal preferences, have a choice to allow it to happen or allow it to stop (to whatever extent an individual can impact that). Opting out has value and while it's debatable what sort of moral value the decision has in the long run, there's not much point arguing that less death and torture is a bad thing objectively.
Its sad that animals suffer. You are right, they should do something to prevent that. That isn't an argument why we aren't supposed to eat meat though.
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