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Old 09-28-2016, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
No, I get where you are coming from Day and where you want to go with it, but my thoughts on this isn't a product of some Freudian indoctrination. I am very much a proponent of individual responsibility, but it is painfully evident (and has become more so as I have aged) that some people are simply more destructive than others even as infants. I don't see how you can attribute all of human behavior to environment most especially when you see different results given the same or similar circumstances :/

How do you account for different outcomes given the same or similar circumstances?
Because like I mentioned, everybody is born bad. One baby is just as screwed up as the next. Thats closer to Jung, but taking the bad people of Frued that were just born that way, applying it to everyone. Still Jung, but just at the lowest point I guess.

So then yeah, upbringing makes 100% the final product. Not 50%, or some starting at 10% while others 80%, but everyone starting at -100% [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If we are diligent, maybe we can make it to 0. But the odds of that is maybe 1 in 15 billion.

So yeah, Frued. If you can say one is born good and another not so good or bad, well thats just what it comes from [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ...in the West.
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