[Drakakade]

Aye, open to suggestions. I would like to point out that atm the best representatives of guild behavior are the old "C" class guilds. Rampage in particular have been the only guild I have seen concede mobs without a lot of theatrics when they made a mistake.

Detoxx pushing for some reasonable solutions too.

Maybe that is because those 2 guilds had so much experience with VP trains? And been down the fraps / petition quest wars? An eye for an eye making the whole world blind thing. It doesn't do anyone any good to involve GMs.

In any case, I believe a logical first step is to confirm no pulling dragons out of their wing. Yes, it makes it harder (assuming no rotation or engage order or something reasonable /laughs and wipes away a tear), because you need to clear parts of a wing or camp out when the other guild engaging etc etc.

One thing we knew pre-Velious when I put up a post asking for us to iron out some of these things before release was having 6+ raid capable guilds in ToV was going to be a pita. Trains and trying to determine whose train wiped whom is part of it even.

ToV is a small zone and we need to work together to come up with some reasonable rules. AND folks need to self-police.