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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception
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Bad analogy.
The playing field was equal to begin with. Both sides had the same pieces to use. But then when TMO kept playing, and playing well, their opponent kept leaving the game to watch TV, play Xbox, go outside, etc. Now things are unequal because TMO has all of its pieces left while their opponent is down to a king and a few pawns.
The raid scene isn't unequal just like the game of chess isn't unequal. The issue lies with the players, not the games. The chess player who stays at the game and considers his options and has studied how to play is going to beat the player who keeps running off and isn't paying attention. The p99 player who plays a lot and tracks and bought accounts/leveled is going to "beat" the player who plays casually.
Moral of the story? If you don't like getting your ass kicked in a game of chess, then find another game to play. Or I guess you could keep petitioning World Chess Federation to change the rules of the game.
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This is a rather stereotypical and standard self-defense analogy against this argument, and you mistake me if you assume the guild(s) that I'm apart of, or where my intentions might lie in the idea behind change within the raid scene.
The concepts of which you speak are both in fact, relatively unethical, and universally inefficient in real world practice (keeping in mind the bridging between real world social action and online world social action, of course).
This idea you've presented are, in a nut shell, the same kinds of actions that laws are created to safeguard those without the monopoly of power; IE: Those with the greatest resources.
Laws protect the general public from monopolization and fraud. Anyone here hear about the gas wars back when gas was around 16 cents a gallon (if my memory serves mind you)? During that time, huge conglomerates of the gas industry were dropping their prices down to a level unmanageable to smaller companies. If gas cost 18 cents on the gallon to get to the pump, the big dogs could sell it for 16, just to kill their competition.
Now if we all accepted your 'theory' on "the most badass must win, leave all else behind!" We'd run into serious problems in many industries beyond gas pricing. These kinds of actions aren't legal in virtually every major nation on earth to date (again as per my fallible recollection)--and there's good reason for it.
One of the (if not the biggest even) reasons that gas prices in the U.S. are about between $3.24 and $3.94 happen to be because of the old gas wars.
You see, once the majority of competitors (the weak, as you so blatantly put it) could no longer compete (or just found it was no longer worth the effort), then gas prices slowly began to increase. Granted, gas can't just jump from .16 cents to a dollar, it's got to be incremental so as to not cause social outcry.
And it did increase. It very quickly jumped several cents in the first few months, stayed steady, then slowly trickled up and up again and again.
Now mind you, this is just the icing on the proverbial shit-cake. This little tidbit on the history of gas prices isn't the only negative thing that's ever come from the idea of "survival of the fittest".
To end this reply, I implore you--and anyone entertaining a similar strain of thought--that not everyone outside your immediate guild is less hardcore, less badass, or necessarily less of a guild than you and yours. In fact, you might be surprised to find that some of the very people in the very unit you so vehemently defend, are in fact against the very idea of which you speak.
For me, it's not about how much or how fast my loot rolls in. It's about the idea of logging in and playing the game. It's about not being forced to log out at the feet of every viable raid target to sit in their window so we don't have to be called at 3AM for a 5 minute insta-kill from a huge slew of players with gear caliber enough to vastly trivialize the encounter to begin with.
And as to answer another poster's inquiry of, "what do I propose?"
Well my personal opinions on what we should do aren't what this topic is about. This is a community issue that should be solved by the community. We should desire to work together to make this experience the most worth-while and fun for everyone, not just the, "most elite".
You'll never know how "elite" I am, and that's neither the point nor does it matter. I may have 4 or more level 60's sporting epics and then some, or I might not even have a single max level character. Either way, my goal--if I had a goal here on the interim--is fairness, fun, and a better raid experience for every single person.
And not just those who think they're
entitled. Be they the elite or the non-elite. It doesn't actually matter.