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Originally Posted by heartbrand
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dunno dawg I fought nihilum for over a year in multiple guilds, what's your credentials? I get more pvp in nihilum than I would outside of it atm. If you're not in nihilum you can't kill other people cuz then you piss them off and grief them to nihilum, the servers too small to make fun small pvp guilds cuz no1 to kill really, but if you're in nihilum you can kill every1 else. There's not a lot of nihilum on during the week so it's not as if I detagged that I suddenly would have tons of targets.
At the end of the day I don't get it. People talk about this being a big bad pvp server where pve is dumb and meaningless but yet they seem so concerned about what Nihilum does or does not do, how does them killing bosses affect your enjoyment of pvp server?
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I have no knowledge of your "history" cause I'm new here, but it sounds like you don't get it because you've never quite experienced anything like what we're trying to describe.
I get the feeling, after having read MANY posts on these forums about R99, that this server is largly split into two categories. There's the PvE, and then there's the PvP. They both interact sometimes, but for the most part they are different... I'm assuming because this server has more strict PnP in place. People go about killing their raid targets (mostly Nihilum from what I understand), and sometimes people will go out looking for PvP.
On SZ the culture and game mentality was a bit different. In a way PvE was everyone's goal, but PvP was the thing you constantly did to prevent your opponents from being able to accomplish PvE. The PvP was an inherent part of PvE, and not at all a separate topic.
Because you always knew exactly who your enemies were, and exactly who your allies were, you never worried about "ticking anyone off".
As you yourself say, you find better fights as a member of Nihilum because you seemingly know exactly who your opponents are (i.e. non-Nihilum members).. well take that same dynamic and apply it to the hard coded teams. You also know exactly who your opponents are. You know who you should attack, and you don't have to stop and consider if you should attack them from fear of being black-listed or simply screwing yourself over in some unforeseen future consequence. You simply have the freedom to attack them without worrying about anything other than them calling some immediate friends in.
I guess all that can really be said now is that you haven't experienced what it was like first hand, and you just kinda have to trust those of us who did.