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Originally Posted by Xzerion
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As I have told many of you I am trying to stay neutral because of my status. However the perception I have observed and heard about the work it out yourselves attitude is that nothing will ever be decided on because transcendence has what they want so why would they want to change it.
Allizia, someone brought up an idea to you to try and appease both guilds that offered equal opportunity to both. The fact that you chose to ignore it...whether you agree or not reinforced the perception I have seen. As a show of good faith please respond with your thoughts. IB and the GMs both do NOT want a rotation, several IB members have suggested several systems to compromise. Other than hasbin's pvp system I have not seen a comment from anyone representing Transendence that has made an attempt at solving the rotation issue. (I could have missed them).
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I've been silent on all of it, since RL has taken away about 95% of my play time and I'm not actively involved in any raiding from either side.
Here's another history lesson:
1. ) People whine about every little thing that's happened on this server since day one. GMs largely ignore everything.
2. ) Transcendence gets wronged in some way or another, the whole Nag/Tumpy/Whatever happens and Trans's complaints go largely ignored.
3. ) IB has a bad week. People like Reiker and Hasb and Dart swing on here and raise *HELL* and are mystified when things don't change instantly and the powers that be largely seem to not care (which is *the* precendent that has been set since launch about all issues that aren't hardware/coding/serverfixy stuff, just like real EQ).
It's a simple timeline issue. The overwhelming sense of entitlement that Reiker and Co. have is the most laughable part of it all, and why everyone is silently laughing instead of publicly debating/negotiating/bantering with a brick wall.
It's not a matter of who exproited what or who's killing what or who's turn it is to tie their planar shoes, it's the simple fact that folks like Reiker make us giggle with how livid they get that the GMs/rest of the server doesn't seem to be completely and utterly incensed and sprung into action if he's not having a grand day frolicking about norrath.
THAT is the real issue here. THAT is why Nil put this thread up, and THAT is why nothing is getting done. From Reiker to Magic to Me to Tantalar to Whomever, there has *always* been someone having a bad day/week and handled it so utterly poorly that they never got the fair shake they believed they deserved to plead their case.
A little humility and grattitude to those who brought this headache/greatest thing since sliced bread to us in the first place would go a *long* way. You catch more flies with honey as opposed to vinegar, and I've bounced at many a club in my lifetime.. Believe me, raising your voice and getting profane with large people in position of authority, in the history of mankind, has never gotten people what they wanted.
Each 'constructive' thread since this began has started with this:
Reiker "Everyone needs to pay attention to me! My concerns are important! Why aren't gms breaking out rubber kneepads and servicing me instantly?"
Supreme "I hate you"
Hasbinbad "<this is a recording> Transcendence is a zerg guild. P.S. IB has better equipment! <this has been a recording>"
Dartagnan "Hey, i'm entitled to things! I got to 50 eventually! We're really skilled."
Nizarr "Rabble Rabble"
Karsten "I'm either going to say something really funny or really off topic.. stay tuned"
Penoy "IB cheats too!"
Wonton "Shadddup Penoy. BTW - I agree with Reiker that 95% of my enjoyment comes from depriving and griefing others"
Allizia "What was I responding to, again?"
Bubbles "Bunnies!"
Pretty much all of it kinda evolves into the same thread, with Xzerion and Wenai taking turns getting heat for whatever reason.
Bottom line is this: You can state your case all you want, but you'll never force people to care about you.You simply can't expect anyone else to place importance on what's affecting your enjoyment of the game, and all the mindless bitch fest does is get Nilbog and Co. closer and closer to pulling the plug entirely or turning the server private.
Which means zero dragons and planes for everyone.
We could disable GUILDS entirely. That would sure be an interesting variable change in this equation.
Or we could just wipe the server entirely and start over, call this beta 2, and pray most of the angry nerdragers move on to EZ or TZ or Diablo3 or whatever. I'd gladly delete all my characters and start over if I could surround myself with people on a server who could show each other some common effing decency.