Rules Clarification Pls
 

Seeking rules clarification pls:

5. Real Money Trades (RMT) are not allowed on Project 1999.
Specifically referring to using "bot" currency. Twitch.tv is ever growing, and in my opinion a great way to interact with viewers in many, many aspects.
Any good Twitcher will tell you that interacting with and rewarding your viewers is a great way to maintain viewer loyalty, and simply a way of saying thanks to your viewers.

Now to my point. There are several moderator/bot applications and programming that can be done to have a give-away or raffle. Normally you would want to reward viewers who have spent time in your channel; this can be quantified by having the bot program periodically issue a virtual currency. These programs are highly customizable and allow you to call the currency whatever you desire. You wouldn't want to have a give-away open to anyone who comes into your channel solely for the purpose of attaining an item and never coming back. Thus you want to limit the give-away to those who have accumulated points/money/currency, rather than to some random opportunist.

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So let’s make this simple:

Viewer A has accumulated 2000 "points" by simply hanging out and actively participating in the Twitch channel over a given period of time. These points are not purchased or earned in any way other than by simply hanging out. Sometimes mini-games, or trivia, etc., etc can earn a player additional points. Maybe a viewer is very active and helpful and the streamer wants to provide additional points. (I realize you would have no way of regulating someone's channel and verifying the legitimacy of how the virtual currency was obtained.)

Streamer Joe has a few items he would like to give back to his Twitch community by doing a give-away/raffle.

Streamer Joe tells his viewers: "Type in keyword 'raffle'; it will cost you 50 points to purchase a raffle ticket". After entries are compiled, winner is player "A".

In game they meet and the winner receives his the give-away item.
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I have been running a bot program for a few months, and regular viewers are currently building up points. I am planning having Steam give-aways for other games, codes, as prizes and rewards.

But wanted to clarify how it would work for in-game items on P99.
Is this legal?

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond.

(Repost from original thread https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=132299)

Hey Mycah

Their stance on such activities may have changed since I asked- but this is the response I got.

As long as there is no exchange of actual real life money, I don't see the staff having a problem with this. Essentially you are giving away EQ items to people who have "earned" points by hanging out in your twitch channel? You are not gaining anything by this, except perhaps loyalty of viewers to your twitch, seems legit.

Edit - ^ Appears I was wrong

So you're trading an in-game item for an out of game currency that a user has accumulated by giving you views on Twitch that has provided you with ad revenue for streaming? Definitely sounds like payola to me. Maybe if you didn't require points for raffle tickets and just gave one to everybody viewing.

Calling all young P99 lawyers, someone needs to take this case!

But what currency? Fictitious points?

Paying in game items/pp for viewers is a roundabout way of RMT (you want viewers for popularity aka advertising revenue in most cases).

If that were allowed, why couldn't we just say, hey, give me $100 and I'll do whatever you want in game for the next 2 hours (be it PL or an epic MQ etc.) - I mean, at that point it's not directly selling pp for cash - but its equivalent isn't it? You're exchanging their time/money outside of game for your time/money in game.

You mean sort of like bitcoins? Pretty sure bitcoins for EQ coins would definitely be RMT ;)

- thanks for the response =)

Not Trading - giving away ( Lawyer edit )

Ad revenue... haha I wish... I'm not that elite yet. ( Not partnered with Twitch - no Sub button )

The points aren't a specific requirement. I can remove that aspect of the "raffle". It was only a concern as a way to legitimize and distinguish between the viewer who is loyal vs. some random schmuck who heard I was doing a give-away and wanted to get lucky. But I guess that's the point of a Raffle huh, to get lucky?

So to that point. If the currency system ( aka Viewer 'Bucks' ) was removed, and it was open to anyone - is this legit then?

I'm only pressing the issue because I have a 5 day weekend coming up.

You cannot use the OPs points for anything besides winning EQ items. Bitcoins have a lot more worth :p