If the VZTZ crowd would just leave the discussion and debates and testing to the real people, these forums would be a lot more helpful.

They're called Interceptors, NOOB.

If Mimix's math is right, the wizard in cloth mitigated damage better than the rogue with much higher *real* AC. This is something you wouldn't see even with a small sample size on EQ live.

The real question is, is Null putting in these bogus VZTZ mechanics in place of legit P99 ones on purpose? I was under the impression P99 had already reverse engineered all the important melee combat formulas.

There was a patch that reduced the effectiveness of AC in EQ live PvP, so worst case scenario, if they were missing this information, you could parse the effectiveness of mitigation on the Zek server, then adjust it to compensate for the percent AC was lowered by.

I might do this parse myself. I just don't feel much purpose in doing so if Null is going to alter every mechanic on the server on purpose to create his vision of EQ PvP without caring how normal EQ is supposed to work.


No, it's a damage interval 20 system, higher AC only adjusts how often each number occurs. It shifts the distribution pattern downwards.

Seriously loling right now. Its a conspiracy man, it has to be.

http://images.memegenerator.net/inst...0x/9416101.jpg

pretty good analogy because motherships are fucking terrible

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...wryhIHyoPYisJQ

haha sprinkles banned, makeyoumad up next.

Typical response from the guy who's hoping/praying AC will remain broken for a boost on his "pvp event winning rogue" *cough*

But back to the topic,

Just from the two logs I can see that it's seriously messed up. The trade off on some classes, like a bard, is your HPs are freakin low but you get to wear plate to boost your AC.

Yeah you could release the server and fix it later, I won't complain because I want to try some winter mmorpgs and more time on R99 the better, but this needs some real looking at.

I don't want this to be another vztz where ac is practically void.

Well when we did these tests we tested a lot more then these screenshots. What we noticed was that AC didn't seem to change the damage on the hits that actually landed. If you have 400 AC or 700 AC it seem to be hit for about the same numbers. However AC makes the person MISS a lot more that's what it seems to do. If you don't count dodge/riposte/parry etc you'll see a shitloads of more misses on the people with HIGH AC.

How about you people that don't even play on the beta stfu and go hide in a corner? I'm not trying to post some perfect logs that shows exactly how things are. But when I notice something being a bit strange on beta then ill test it out a little and if it still seem strange then ill take some screenshots and post it here and if the Developers or other players think that the numbers seem to be off then we can just hope that the Developers look into it and test it themselves. (which they have done so far on every point that the peoplez on the FORUMZ have made)

If they think the numbers like this are fine, then fine. If not then we get a little tweak to the system.