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I hate that fucking word, stop using it it makes you look stupid, conoisseur is not a word in french, connaisseur is a word so using conoisseur as an expression meaning you know wtf youre talking about when the word itself implies you dont know wtf youre talking about makes it ironic and i get a laugh each time but still its annoying as fuck will people ever stop using that fucking word?
So... what other expression really grinds you gear(s)?
Kinamur1999
06-16-2010, 12:22 AM
So... what other expression really grinds you gear(s)?
Mad Brew, Does this mean ANYTHING or is it just retarded dribble.
lol u mad bew?
mad brew?
lawl madbrew?
...........what?
mr.miketastic
06-16-2010, 12:34 AM
I hate that fucking word, stop using it it makes you look stupid, conoisseur is not a word in french, connaisseur is a word so using conoisseur as an expression meaning you know wtf youre talking about when the word itself implies you dont know wtf youre talking about makes it ironic and i get a laugh each time but still its annoying as fuck will people ever stop using that fucking word?
So... what other expression really grinds you gear(s)?
Ummm......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connoisseur
Ummm......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connoisseur
Well shit... lol i blame it on people using it in all the wrong contexts and being an old french word similar to old english.
Does the word entrepreneur make you mad too?
Pheer
06-16-2010, 02:23 AM
conversating.
discuss.
Fargus
06-16-2010, 03:08 AM
"irregardless"
"a whole nother"
eqgamer
06-16-2010, 04:17 AM
I hate that fucking word, stop using it it makes you look stupid, conoisseur is not a word in french, connaisseur is a word so using conoisseur as an expression meaning you know wtf youre talking about when the word itself implies you dont know wtf youre talking about makes it ironic and i get a laugh each time but still its annoying as fuck will people ever stop using that fucking word?
So... what other expression really grinds you gear(s)?
Clear disregard for punctuation to split up your life story into manageable sentences really grinds my gears!
Just kidding. Or am I? :confused:
eqdruid76
06-16-2010, 07:35 AM
I hate that fucking word, stop using it it makes you look stupid, conoisseur is not a word in french, connaisseur is a word so using conoisseur as an expression meaning you know wtf youre talking about when the word itself implies you dont know wtf youre talking about makes it ironic and i get a laugh each time but still its annoying as fuck will people ever stop using that fucking word?
So... what other expression really grinds you gear(s)?
Stupid player names really grind my gears.....
mr.miketastic
06-16-2010, 07:43 AM
Taxi is alright lol. I think, he speaks quebecois, so I can dig why he has an issue with the perceived "misuse" of the language.
:)
Kinamur1999
06-16-2010, 07:54 AM
"irregardless"
"a whole nother"
"all of the sudden"
Omnimorph
06-16-2010, 09:02 AM
Wrong use of their, there and they're.
People who say they want to lend something from you.
Affect and effect.
May I and can I.
It's and its.
There's plenty of these silly mistakes that I tend to notice but I certainly wouldn't say it "grinds my gears"
mr.miketastic
06-16-2010, 09:08 AM
What really grinds my gears is a bad throwout bearing.
yt2005
06-16-2010, 09:18 AM
"Casted"
It is not a past-tense verb. The word you are looking for is generally "cast".
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 09:45 AM
I don't understand. Taxi is pissed about people using an English word properly? Is that what's going on?
Akame
06-16-2010, 10:16 AM
Faggot.
Seriously? Are you phobic or something or do you degrade others needlessly to make your dick feel bigger? This one came up recently in conversation and I've decided I loathe it completely.
Akame
06-16-2010, 10:18 AM
Oh and Taxi, I like this website very much for looking up odd terms:
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 10:32 AM
I'll tell you what grinds my gears - language snobs who don't understand that colloqualisms and dialects that deviate from standard English are not incorrect.
If a word or phrase successfully and accurately conveys a meaning between two parties, then language has served its purpose and nothing is being misused.
Qaedain
06-16-2010, 10:37 AM
^ Apologists.
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 10:51 AM
^ Apologists.
An apologist is a person who defends a position with reason and logic. Are you saying that you don't like people who use reason or logic? Or are you saying you don't like people who defend positions? I don't quite follow you.
Omnimorph
06-16-2010, 11:05 AM
I'll tell you what grinds my gears - language snobs who don't understand that colloqualisms and dialects that deviate from standard English are not incorrect.
If a word or phrase successfully and accurately conveys a meaning between two parties, then language has served its purpose and nothing is being misused.
lol brew, u cnt b srs?
But yeah, i am a language snob.
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 11:18 AM
lol brew, u cnt b srs?
But yeah, i am a language snob.
Just remember that the job of language academia is to be the curator of language. If a nonstandard use of language becomes standard (note that there is no such thing as a "wrong" use of language) the job of the academic is to catalog that change, not to attempt to revert it. Indeed, almost every single attempt of an academic to try to artificially change language has been met with abject failure.
Shannacore
06-16-2010, 11:58 AM
taxi you are the best
Omnimorph
06-16-2010, 12:01 PM
Just remember that the job of language academia is to be the curator of language. If a nonstandard use of language becomes standard (note that there is no such thing as a "wrong" use of language) the job of the academic is to catalog that change, not to attempt to revert it. Indeed, almost every single attempt of an academic to try to artificially change language has been met with abject failure.
I should have said this at school when a teacher would attack my work with a red pen! :D
Phallax
06-16-2010, 12:10 PM
"could care less"
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 12:19 PM
I should have said this at school when a teacher would attack my work with a red pen! :D
Primary school teachers are mostly little failed Napoleans who didn't make the cut for something bigger. They take out their frustration and angst on their students by making them follow antiquated and outdated rules that nobody really follows in real life (including most famous writers). Students are then indoctrinated and the cycle continues.
Alifeyl
06-16-2010, 12:27 PM
Faggot.
Seriously? Are you phobic or something or do you degrade others needlessly to make your dick feel bigger? This one came up recently in conversation and I've decided I loathe it completely.
^ This. And using "gay" to describe something you don't like. There are so many better, more descriptive, less offensive ways to express your distaste. Why do people need to hate on others so much?
Primary school teachers are mostly little failed Napoleans who didn't make the cut for something bigger. They take out their frustration and angst on their students by making them follow antiquated and outdated rules that nobody really follows in real life (including most famous writers). Students are then indoctrinated and the cycle continues.
Lol i made a bad call and owned up to it as soon as i realized it. It doesnt change that conoisseur is used to all sauces in the wrong contexts just to appear highly literate. Its a snobby term often when its used, and i was fooled by the utter snobbyness of the people using it, i should have looked further thats for sure.
Another example: There was these commentators on a sports channel talking about skateboarding in a competition saying stuff like "great pirouettes!". Theres many people who know the skateboard moves and what they are called, why not hire these people instead of these old conservatives.
Another term: Anti-american. A term to paint someone that is critical of the US governement policies, or any conservative/right-wing beleif as if they hate everything american.
^ This. And using "gay" to describe something you don't like. There are so many better, more descriptive, less offensive ways to express your distaste. Why do people need to hate on others so much?
Thats another word i loathe, using homosexuals as a synonym for something lame.
mr.miketastic
06-16-2010, 12:47 PM
Thats another word i loathe, using homosexuals as a synonym for something lame.
Maybe we should say something like "That's so breeder" Kinda funny ne c'est pas?
Akame
06-16-2010, 12:49 PM
Another term: Anti-american. A term to paint someone that is critical of the US governement policies, or any conservative/right-wing beleif as if they hate everything american.
No they just call us teabaggers now.
JackFlash
06-16-2010, 12:55 PM
I disagree on the use of gay and faggot. Both have moved on from being used to describe homosexuals.
Can't I be gay and frolic in the woods while gathering a fagot of wood? Does that make me homosexual?
Ihealyou
06-16-2010, 12:56 PM
No one uses who/whom correctly.
L2Subjective Case
Akame
06-16-2010, 12:59 PM
I disagree on the use of gay and faggot. Both have moved on from being used to describe homosexuals.
Can't I be gay and frolic in the woods while gathering a fagot of wood? Does that make me homosexual?
I would have liked to agree with you but I ran into several situations recently where they will still in use for derogatory terms.
Landis
06-16-2010, 01:27 PM
So... what other expression really grinds you gear(s)?
"chaise lounge" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaise_longue
also, ugly women with hot voices
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 01:41 PM
"chaise lounge" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaise_longue
Here we go. Here's another example of nonstandard usage becoming standard. The article you referred to has itself declared that this has become a standard usage in American English. You can fight the change, but you're just going to look like an assclown and ultimately your efforts are futile.
The English language changes. All languages change. Words are added, modified, and removed on a daily basis. If you spoke with someone who spoke Middle English, you would barely understand them, and farther removed still would your understanding be if you spoke to someone who spoke Old English (In fact, Old English would probably sound like a completely foreign language to you).
mr.miketastic
06-16-2010, 01:48 PM
English is such a bastard anyway. Wouldn't it be fair to say that when a language becomes static, it moves into a "dead" category? I much prefer a more dynamic and living language that allows you to create even newer expressions, thus enabling more precise communication.
This may tick someone off, but I love portmanteaus :)
Or is that tickoff?
Qaedain
06-16-2010, 01:53 PM
I'm sure we can draw a distinction between:
Language "evolving" because the unwashed masses were too lazy to type a complete word and, say, the Normans invading Anglo-Saxon England.
I would argue that there is, in fact, a very big distinction.
Ihealyou
06-16-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm sure we can draw a distinction between:
Language "evolving" because the unwashed masses were too lazy to type a complete word and, say, the Normans invading Anglo-Saxon England.
I would argue that there is, in fact, a very big distinction.
I see the distinction in how the change happened, but what's the distinction if the language changes either way?
Landis
06-16-2010, 01:56 PM
Here we go. Here's another example of nonstandard usage becoming standard. The article you referred to has itself declared that this has become a standard usage in American English. You can fight the change, but you're just going to look like an assclown and ultimately your efforts are futile.
yes, i'm sure i'll look like an assclown :rolleyes:
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 01:56 PM
Language "evolving" because the unwashed masses were too lazy to type a complete word
Believe it or not, but this is the reason why most changes take place. The massive influx of French words into the English language (mostly spelled and/or pronounced incorrectly, if you look at them strictly) from the Norman invasion did not take place overnight, it took place for many years later as these words dissimulated down from the French-speaking English court into the ear (and later, the mouth) of the common man.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/Geistlich/1266343702750.jpg
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 02:10 PM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/Geistlich/1266343702750.jpg
your mad brew?
Here we go. Here's another example of nonstandard usage becoming standard. The article you referred to has itself declared that this has become a standard usage in American English. You can fight the change, but you're just going to look like an assclown and ultimately your efforts are futile.
The English language changes. All languages change. Words are added, modified, and removed on a daily basis. If you spoke with someone who spoke Middle English, you would barely understand them, and farther removed still would your understanding be if you spoke to someone who spoke Old English (In fact, Old English would probably sound like a completely foreign language to you).
No need to over-analyze everything, you can call me a dictatorial baby for being annoyed that people use the term homosexual (gay) to mean something that is lame, but its not a scientific issue.
Ive given 2 good examples, if you choose to ignore them and continue with this notion that I am just a linguistic luddite longing for languages to be frozen in time, then i cant stop you from doing so.
Landis
06-16-2010, 02:17 PM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/Geistlich/1266343702750.jpg
stop fighting it. clearly the incorrect usage of the words your and you're are ingrained in our society now, and we should embrace the change.
:rolleyes:
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 02:17 PM
No need to over-analyze everything, you can call me a dictatorial baby for being annoyed that people use the term homosexual (gay) to mean something that is lame, but its not a scientific issue.
Wait, what? Could you provide an example of this?
I use plenty of english words as a french canadian that got into usage because we live in a sea of Anglos. I use some of them regularly, so thats not the problem.
Some examples:
Becosse ---> french canuck for "backhouse"
Mitaines ---> french canuck for "mittens"
Froque ----> french canuck for coat (frock)
Its full of words like that
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 02:28 PM
stop fighting it. clearly the incorrect usage of the words your and you're are ingrained in our society now, and we should embrace the change.
:rolleyes:
Is the meaning conveyed correctly? Then the language was not used incorrectly. That is the only criterion. If an inaccurate meaning is conveyed, then the grammar and structure needs to be reworked. I'm sure you've heard the one about the panda that eats, shoots, and leaves, right? I'm not saying that all structure is worthless, I'm saying that people who correct you over split infinitives or ending a sentence with a preposition are douchebags.
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 02:29 PM
I use plenty of english words as a french canadian that got into usage because we live in a sea of Anglos. I use some of them regularly, so thats not the problem.
Some examples:
Becosse ---> french canuck for "backhouse"
Mitaines ---> french canuck for "mittens"
Froque ----> french canuck for coat (frock)
Its full of words like that
No, I'm trying to find the part where I commented on the "gay" or "faggot" word usage, which you claimed I did.
No, I'm trying to find the part where I commented on the "gay" or "faggot" word usage, which you claimed I did.
I was just meaning that you framed the thread in a "I think people who dont want language to change look like assclowns" way when its not about that.
Alifeyl
06-16-2010, 03:01 PM
And just in case you are wondering:
The most significant change for webmasters in the latest issue of the AP Stylebook is the use of "website" as one word, lowercase (instead of "Web site"), also:
• website
• webcam
• webmaster
• webcast
"Web" is still capitalized for the following uses:
• the Web
• Web page
• Web feed
• Web address
"Internet" is still capitalized (as is its abbreviation, "Net").
"intranet" is not capitalized.
"e-mail" is hyphenated but not capitalized anymore. Other e- words:
• e-mail
• e-book
• e-commerce
• e-business
"online" is no longer hyphenated.
"Google" is capitalized, even when used as a verb (as in "Googled")
Talk about language changing: these words didn't even exist when I was in school! O.o
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 03:03 PM
I was just meaning that you framed the thread in a "I think people who dont want language to change look like assclowns" way when its not about that.
That's what it seemed like to me. You claimed French ownership on an English word in your initial post and then called it ironic when people used it. I think it's ironic that this whole thread is based on a post that was basically founded on ignorance in the first place.
I appreciate your ability to distance yourself from faulty arguments quickly. It's irritating when someone makes a bad claim and then defends it despite the fact that it is even clear to the individual that his original point was refuted.
With that said, you're not the only one posting here. If I'm responding to someone with a quote, you can be fairly sure that I am addressing them specifically, and not the original poster.
To be honest, though, if I had time, I would have criticized you for politicizing something as trivial as as word usage during sporting events as well. I don't care if you think "pirouette" or "conoisseur" are "conservative" words, my only interest here is defending laissez-faire linguistics.
Not that laissez-faire linguistics needs a patron or defender. Language will continue to evolve with or without you. I really just came in here to stir up some shit for my afternoon shit and so far I'd say mission successful.
To be honest, though, if I had time, I would have criticized you for politicizing something as trivial as as word usage during sporting events as well. I don't care if you think "pirouette" or "conoisseur" are "conservative" words, my only interest here is defending laissez-faire linguistics.
Not that laissez-faire linguistics needs a patron or defender. Language will continue to evolve with or without you. I really just came in here to stir up some shit for my afternoon shit and so far I'd say mission successful.
Again with that argument that the thread is about me wanting to stop languages from evolving. I was just wanting to know what sentences irrates people and why?
About the skateboarding: If you dont know whats a 360 flip and a 540, you should stay out of the commenting skateboard business. I wouldnt want a skateboarder commenting a basketball game in anything but a shit and giggles fest.
I was lazy in explaining, but the sports channel, instead of putting people on the microphone that know about skateboarding, put on people with mustaches and suits who at other schedule times are probably commenting on mini-golf and Hockey.
Its just a laidback thread, no need to take it that seriously, my first post was even written intentionally in one, punctuation-less stream-of-consciousness style to set the mood.
"laissez-faire-linguistics"... GO!
Just like eating marbles out of a sewer.
it was pretty like a racoon in flight!
It was a deep blue green, the kind you only see from those Icelandic volcano lava trails.
Akame
06-16-2010, 03:23 PM
Here we go. Here's another example of nonstandard usage becoming standard. The article you referred to has itself declared that this has become a standard usage in American English. You can fight the change, but you're just going to look like an assclown and ultimately your efforts are futile.
The English language changes. All languages change. Words are added, modified, and removed on a daily basis. If you spoke with someone who spoke Middle English, you would barely understand them, and farther removed still would your understanding be if you spoke to someone who spoke Old English (In fact, Old English would probably sound like a completely foreign language to you).
I still reserve the right to choke someone maliciously for using ginormous in my presence, I don't give a damn if it's been added to the dictionary or not.
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 03:25 PM
"laissez-faire-linguistics"... GO!
Just like eating marbles out of a sewer.
it was pretty like a racoon in flight!
It was a deep blue green, the kind you only see from those Icelandic volcano lava trails.
The laissez-faire nature of language has determined that those expressions are not very successful at conveying meaning and nobody uses them.
See how some problems take care of themselves? you don't need to go on a crusade to convince people to not use lava as a metaphor to describe "deep blue-green" things because the "unwashed masses" would all look at you like a dipshit if you tried.
Landis
06-16-2010, 03:27 PM
I still reserve the right to choke someone maliciously for using ginormous in my presence, I don't give a damn if it's been added to the dictionary or not.
Seriously. The "word" grrrl has been added to the Oxford English dictionary. Wtf.
The laissez-faire nature of language has determined that those expressions are not very successful at conveying meaning and nobody uses them.
See how some problems take care of themselves? you don't need to go on a crusade to convince people to not use lava as a metaphor to describe "deep blue-green" things because the "unwashed masses" would all look at you like a dipshit if you tried.
"Im just looking to see if theres anyone i know" is one serious example off the top of my head. Yes, youre looking to see, thanks for specifying you werent looking to hear.
Excision Rottun
06-16-2010, 03:45 PM
"un-thaw"
pickled_heretic
06-16-2010, 03:46 PM
"Im just looking to see if theres anyone i know" is one serious example off the top of my head. Yes, youre looking to see, thanks for specifying you werent looking to hear.
Once again, the meaning has been successfully conveyed. I don't see anything wrong with this expression. Are you saying redundancy makes it harder to understand or what?
Xenephex
06-16-2010, 03:54 PM
"laissez-faire-linguistics"... GO!
Just like eating marbles out of a sewer.
it was pretty like a racoon in flight!
It was a deep blue green, the kind you only see from those Icelandic volcano lava trails.
Lower than rattlesnake shit in a wagon rut.
JaVeDK
06-16-2010, 05:32 PM
Don't forgot there are severe downsides to a (exceedingly) dynamic language. As a law student I can attest to the serious consequences of improper use or divergent understanding of words.
Humwawa
06-16-2010, 07:42 PM
"for the win" You cannot win EverQuest. This EMU should prove that - the game's been dead for 6 years or more.
"for great justice" I'm fairly certain there's nothing remotely involving the moral concept of justice anywhere near whatever drivel preceded the phrase.
"lawl/lewl/luls/lulz" any derivative of the initial acronym. This also applies to lollers, lollerskates, roflcopter, etc.
Lumpus
06-16-2010, 10:53 PM
"rediculous"
ClamSmasher22
06-17-2010, 12:22 AM
'reverse racism'
Hate it, it implies only white people are racist.
Which is racist.
'for great justice' is just a bad translation to english, from the 'all your base' game.
pickled_heretic
06-17-2010, 09:48 AM
'for great justice' is just a bad translation to english, from the 'all your base' game.
there's nothing gramatically incorrect about "for great justice" either. it is a perfectly acceptable prepositional phrase.
Kinamur1999
06-17-2010, 10:28 AM
Seriously. The "word" grrrl has been added to the Oxford English dictionary. Wtf.
I had to look it up....the whole book needs to be thrown out.
And before 10 people go jumping off the handle screaming its language evolution man, linguistic scholars decided that...blahblah Just Stop.
If you really want to consider "grrrl" as a real word because someone in an office decided it was, good for you. I'm going to continue fighting bullshit like this and denying it is a word, and no it doesn't make me feel like an asshat. It makes me feel like someone with a fucking brain.
Omnimorph
06-17-2010, 10:32 AM
Just had someone in my office say "wrote" when she should have said "written".
pickled_heretic
06-17-2010, 10:52 AM
I had to look it up....the whole book needs to be thrown out.
RAWRARWRARWR THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY DOES NOT CONFORM TO MY EXPECTATIONS! WE MUST BURN THE INSTITUTION OF LANGUAGE!
R O F L
If you really want to consider "grrrl" as a real word because someone in an office decided it was, good for you. I'm going to continue fighting bullshit like this and denying it is a word, and no it doesn't make me feel like an asshat. It makes me feel like someone with a fucking brain.
YEAH!:D
Kinamur1999
06-17-2010, 11:02 AM
Sorry pikled just because the institution of language mandates it so, does not mean that I have to conform.
There's still free will and free thought, but please go ahead and defend grrrl all day.
pickled_heretic
06-17-2010, 11:08 AM
Sorry pikled just because the institution of language mandates it so, does not mean that I have to conform.
There's still free will and free thought, but please go ahead and defend grrrl all day.
You're the one trying to stifle free will and free thought. I don't use the word grrl, but I'm not enough of a tightwad that I can't let other people use the language how they want. As long as people are successfully, accurately conveying a thought, language has served its purpose.
Ihealyou
06-17-2010, 11:09 AM
There's still free will and free thought ...
Or is there???
Akame
06-17-2010, 11:14 AM
Or is there???
Nope. This is America remember. The land of Taxes, forced healthcare, putting our children in debt, and pouring oil into natural resources for weeks on end.
Kinamur1999
06-17-2010, 11:16 AM
Stifle!?
...yea you're right, there's something about the legitimation of a slang term into a real word that just bothers me.
I would like to see language conserved to some degree instead of recognizing every used word as a legit word. Ya dig Bromandizzle!?
Akame
06-17-2010, 11:17 AM
Stifle!?
...yea you're right, there's something about the legitimation of a slang term into a real word that just bothers me.
I would like to see language conserved to some degree instead of recognizing every used word as a legit word. Ya dig Bromandizzle!?
Fo shizzle!
pickled_heretic
06-17-2010, 11:19 AM
Stifle!?
...yea you're right, there's something about the legitimation of a slang term into a real word that just bothers me.
I would like to see language conserved to some degree instead of recognizing every used word as a legit word. Ya dig Bromandizzle!?
Thank you for acknowledging that you are anti free-speech and free-thought. A lot of people have a hard time swallowing that pill; at least you're honest about it.
Landis
06-17-2010, 11:20 AM
people are free to talk how they want. but if they're using words like grrrl and ain't, i hope they don't expect to ever land a decent job.
Ihealyou
06-17-2010, 11:24 AM
Code switching ftw. I ain't gotta say grrrl at work, but I be all sayin grrrl n shit with me hommies.
Kinamur1999
06-17-2010, 11:27 AM
Thank you for acknowledging that you are anti American
Let me just fix that for you.
Thank you for acknowledging that you are anti free-speech and free-thought. A lot of people have a hard time swallowing that pill; at least you're honest about it.
Lol what a spinner, have you considered a job as commentator on fox news?
Omnimorph
06-17-2010, 12:06 PM
Pickled said himself he's just doing this for kicks. Obviously there are right and wrong ways to use a language, whether or not someone understands you when you use it wrongly doesn't make it viable as the development of that language. It just makes you wrong.
Not too sure on my opinion of the meaning of google, i mean it was already a word (10^100) but now because of the popularity of a search engine it's become a verb... i dislike this!!! Even if everyone recognises when people say someone googles something, that's fine, it's slang, it's practically universal.
Yea i fuck up words often, and look dumb myself. It doesnt stop me from being annoyed at particular things people say.
Alifeyl
06-17-2010, 12:47 PM
Omni, that's "Googled" with a capital G according to the Associated Press. :p
And is it a tautology if I say I don't like verbizing? Because isn't using the word verbizing verbizing? :D
pickled_heretic
06-17-2010, 02:39 PM
Yea i fuck up words often, and look dumb myself. It doesnt stop me from being annoyed at particular things people say.
As long as you can acknolwedge that it's just your OCD kicking in rather than some sort of universal ethical principle that people are violating when they use words that annoy you then I guess we don't have a problem.
Akame
06-17-2010, 02:42 PM
As long as you can acknolwedge that it's just your OCD kicking in rather than some sort of universal ethical principle that people are violating when they use words that annoy you then I guess we don't have a problem.
No I'm quite prejudice against people who use slang to be lazy. L337 speech is something akin to nails on a chalkboard.
As long as you can acknolwedge that it's just your OCD kicking in rather than some sort of universal ethical principle that people are violating when they use words that annoy you then I guess we don't have a problem.
So how would you diagnose your compulsion of pointless nitpicking with an obvious troll called clamsmasher22? Or with us for that matter. Since were flaming and all that.
pickled_heretic
06-17-2010, 02:53 PM
So how would you diagnose your compulsion of pointless nitpicking with an obvious troll called clamsmasher22? Or with us for that matter. Since were flaming and all that.
see this post:
Not that laissez-faire linguistics needs a patron or defender. Language will continue to evolve with or without you. I really just came in here to stir up some shit for my afternoon shit and so far I'd say mission successful.
Language changes though many mechanisms, including slang and assimilation of words from other languages. None of you here can stop that. The fact that you complain about it is probably going to make these words seem even more exotic to some people and may even accelerate this rate of change.
It's like you're all saying "I think it's terrible that natural selection determines that the most successful species thrive and survive! We have to do something to stop it!" Lol. Good luck with that.
Ihealyou
06-17-2010, 03:00 PM
It's like you're all saying "I think it's terrible that natural selection determines that the most successful species thrive and survive! We have to do something to stop it!" Lol. Good luck with that.
I believe God said that :p
mr.miketastic
06-17-2010, 03:02 PM
Newsatleven :)
I recommend looking at L. Sprague De Camp's theories on the english language evolving from a science fiction writer's perspective.
Alternatively, one could also look at A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess and Nadsat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadsat Although technically an argot, slang can become part of the lexicon of a language due to cross cultural pollination.
Kinamur1999
06-17-2010, 03:08 PM
None of you here can stop that.
You're right but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here and accept/defend it because someone told me to.
pickled_heretic
06-17-2010, 03:10 PM
You're right but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here and accept/defend it because someone told me to.
Here is where you explain why the natural evolution of language is a bad thing, other than the fact that it offends your sensibilities.
Or, is that the only reason?
Kinamur1999
06-17-2010, 03:18 PM
Apparently, I'd continue but your twisting of my words is a work of art.
ClamSmasher22
06-17-2010, 11:50 PM
So how would you diagnose your compulsion of pointless nitpicking with an obvious troll called clamsmasher22? Or with us for that matter. Since were flaming and all that.
^^^^ Fuck you.
As for the grrrl, isn't that pronounced as 'girl'? So it's not really a new word as a different way to type a current word. I always thought 'grrrl' was some sort of dyke thing anyways.
Kinamur1999
06-18-2010, 12:43 AM
yes grrl is a different way of spelling girl, I personally thought it had something to do with Girl power like girls growling Grrrrr-L
Anyway if every different spelling of a word became legitimate because it could be read the same would make me cry.
Girl
Grrl
Gurl
gerl
etc,etc,etc. a line should be drawn somewhere.
Omnimorph
06-18-2010, 05:27 AM
So how would you diagnose your compulsion of pointless nitpicking with an obvious troll called clamsmasher22? Or with us for that matter. Since were flaming and all that.
A mistake! in the spirit of this thread i will now jump all over this with a haughty sense of superiority!
Bow to me peasants... bow
pickled_heretic
06-18-2010, 10:34 AM
yes grrl is a different way of spelling girl, I personally thought it had something to do with Girl power like girls growling Grrrrr-L
Anyway if every different spelling of a word became legitimate because it could be read the same would make me cry.
Girl
Grrl
Gurl
gerl
etc,etc,etc. a line should be drawn somewhere.
And here we have the resident book-burning nazi weighing in on how he's going to rewrite the dictionary after he destroys the current establishment of language. No impure words! Only words with blonde hair and blue eyes! Just remember friends... It starts with Czechoslovakia... then Poland... And soon they'll be at your door...
Branaddar
06-18-2010, 11:10 AM
Along the same lines of massacred french.
"Walla"... it's "Voila." I don't care how it's pronounced, that is how you spell it. Period.
I don't spell "knife" "nyf" because that's how it's pronounced.
Dumbasses.
That is all.
pickled_heretic
06-18-2010, 11:20 AM
Along the same lines of massacred french.
"Walla"... it's "Voila." I don't care how it's pronounced, that is how you spell it. Period.
I don't spell "knife" "nyf" because that's how it's pronounced.
Dumbasses.
That is all.
pickled_heretic
06-18-2010, 11:21 AM
You do realize that fully 70% of English words are of French origin, and only a very tiny minority of those words are spelled and/or pronounced how they were in French originally, yes?
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