Official Repop Day guild Kills

[quido]

Goodies was the best.

[Fael]

yes, terrible typo. So i agree totally with 50 shades of grey: IF FE was able to kill VP dragons and oust TMO from VP, then it would be a lot more impressive than what TMO did.

What follows in that logic chain is that TMO has more skill, more time, is a better guild in general, has better loot, more knowedge of VP, etc. etc. Pick any of the above that suits you. Either way you cut it, I guess it is an accomplishment. However, FE killing VP dragons is an enormous IF.

I just don't see it happening. But I could be wrong. FE is welcome to prove otherwise.

Dolic

[Zeelot]

I'm just glad FE's balls dropped and they came into VP with more than 3 people. We had our most fun VP raid in ages. If you think an extended VP raid is a negative you are dead wrong :P People couldn't get enough and wanted to hang around after all the dragons were dead for more train action.

Fun times were had by all. Can't wait til next time.

[Nerosys]

"This is about you and FE, and how the way FE is going to earn their VP dragons are much more impressive than how TMO did, and indeed how IB did as well given that they were in on the rotation."

I honestly don't see them earning a vp dragon kill any time in the next 6 months. The only way it will happen is if:
1. Velious comes out
2. They can successfully stop TMO from killing dragons via training, thereby forcing a rotation.
3. TMO just lets them have a dragon uncontested. If Zeelot alone stopped TR/IB, then how in the world is FE going to manage with Zeelot plus all the other TMO involved.

After last night, I think it was proved that option 2 will work out for them. Their only chance is with Hosh up after a repop. And that isn't going to happen very often. Even then we will have adapted next time, in the event of a full repop.


Dolic


It's funny how you think we won't adapt... Good on TMO for killing you're dragons while we trained, this is just the start, once people learn and more keyed get up there we will see what's up. Every empire falls and every dog has their day we will see what comes first. I personally give 0 fucks about all the other bs i was in a top guild on live and people hated on us too its the way it works (granted we were a little less greedy ), but whatever i don't hate on TMO for locking down mobs if that's the way they want to play, alot of people on this server would do it if they had the opportunity, we are the only ones who tried to bring a fight everyone else just cries about it. We are coming and learning and progressing underestimate us if you want to it only makes it easier.

[Alarti0001]

It's funny how you think we won't adapt... Good on TMO for killing you're dragons while we trained, this is just the start, once people learn and more keyed get up there we will see what's up. Every empire falls and every dog has their day we will see what comes first. I personally give 0 fucks about all the other bs i was in a top guild on live and people hated on us too its the way it works (granted we were a little less greedy ), but whatever i don't hate on TMO for locking down mobs if that's the way they want to play, alot of people on this server would do it if they had the opportunity, we are the only ones who tried to bring a fight everyone else just cries about it. We are coming and learning and progressing underestimate us if you want to it only makes it easier.

Don't mistake us. We aren't underestimating you. You are overestimating yourself.
I have a very clear idea of what you guys are capable of. I can say without bias it is quite a bit less than what TMO is capable of.

[Splorf22]

I actually had a lot more fun than on the usual TMO roflstomp-in-15-minutes VP raids. Someone key my L46 monk so I can train someone!

[quido]

If you guys can legit do it, I'll say "good job" and won't sit here and make excuses like IB. However you have a LONG uphill battle in front of you, the likes of which you probably don't quite yet comprehend. Most of you, anyways.

[Nirgon]

Okay you guys train each other in VP, whoopdie-doo.

More concerning, what is Ms. Kate shouting in Autotune's sig?

[OMGWTF420]

something something something fatnerdsandpixels something

[Nerosys]

Don't mistake us. We aren't underestimating you. You are overestimating yourself.
I have a very clear idea of what you guys are capable of. I can say without bias it is quite a bit less than what TMO is capable of.

I can say this without bias nobody gives a fuck what you have to say Alarti, i realize you don't care and you just like to argue for the sake of arguing so here is you're troll bait continue to spew. I actually have alot of respect for some TMO members you are far from one of them.

[Nerosys]

If you guys can legit do it, I'll say "good job" and won't sit here and make excuses like IB. However you have a LONG uphill battle in front of you, the likes of which you probably don't quite yet comprehend. Most of you, anyways.

Trust me i get it, i am not here to fluff peoples pillows, nobody said it was going to be easy and there will be alot of rage and fuck ups between now and than just don't pretend like its impossible. You have had a foothold in there a long time it will be like trying to climb the walls of Troy but in the end all it took was a carved out horse to take it down.

[quido]

People were dumb back then. We have a couple of paranoid schizophrenics among our officers =)

[Nerosys]

People were dumb back then. We have a couple of paranoid schizophrenics among our officers =)

We aren't putting all our eggs in the sun gods basket either =P

[Alarti0001]

I can say this without bias nobody gives a fuck what you have to say Alarti, i realize you don't care and you just like to argue for the sake of arguing so here is you're troll bait continue to spew. I actually have alot of respect for some TMO members you are far from one of them.

Why would you not respect me? Do you feed to much into RnF?
Also, how do you claim to speak for everyone. hubris

[Nerosys]

Why would you not respect me? Do you feed to much into RnF?
Also, how do you claim to speak for everyone. hubris

You make my points for me bro...anyways w/e

[Alarti0001]

Trust me i get it, i am not here to fluff peoples pillows, nobody said it was going to be easy and there will be alot of rage and fuck ups between now and than just don't pretend like its impossible. You have had a foothold in there a long time it will be like trying to climb the walls of Troy but in the end all it took was a carved out horse to take it down.

No one said it was impossible for another guild to kill a VP dragon. Sentenza could always get us suspended again.

Without levity though, I don't see FE getting a foothold in VP. Not with the way you are playing, not speaking only of skill either.

[OMGWTF420]

grown men arguing over pixel dragons

first world problems

[Alarti0001]

You make my points for me bro...anyways w/e

Hey I'm not the one comparing an MMO to Greco-Trojan relations.

[quido]

grown men arguing over pixel dragons

first world problems

What about grown men commenting on such people?

[49shadesofgay]

yes, terrible typo. So i agree totally with 50 shades of grey: IF FE was able to kill VP dragons and oust TMO from VP, then it would be a lot more impressive than what TMO did.

You've got sense. Share it with the rest of those in your guild. ;)

Goodluck out there!

[49shadesofgay]

What about grown men commenting on such people?

People make comments on internet forums

More news @11

[quido]

People talk about dragon pixels on elf emulator boards.

More news at 11 DERP

[quido]

Let's all surf to stormfront.org and complain about racists.

[49shadesofgay]

Let's all surf to stormfront.org and complain about racists.

Welcome to rants and flames.

Don't let it get under your skin.

[Godefroi]

Wow Jeremy and Alarti got totally spanked by a neutral poster.

A+ would read again

/popcorn

[quido]

Have I ever not gotten spanked, in your opinion, Visceral?

Alleged forum spankings slide off your back when you're obliterating in game. But you wouldn't know anything about that now would you!

[Nirgon]

Jeremy "Duck's Back" Irons

[49shadesofgay]

Have I ever not gotten spanked, in your opinion, Visceral?

Alleged forum spankings slide off your back when you're obliterating in game. But you wouldn't know anything about that now would you!

According to Visceral's past posts, I have a clear TMO bias.

[Alarti0001]

According to Visceral's past posts, I have a clear TMO bias.

Your post would make more sense if your supporters weren't the clear anti-tmo faction. Also, its Visceral. GJ?

[49shadesofgay]

Your post would make more sense if your supporters weren't the clear anti-tmo faction. Also, its Visceral. GJ?

It's funny you say that, because when I flame FE yourself, Eccezan, and tiggles all jumped on the bandwagon.

Maybe you're.. just.. stupid?

[Alarti0001]

It's funny you say that, because when I flame FE yourself, Eccezan, and tiggles all jumped on the bandwagon.

Maybe you're.. just.. stupid?

Maybe you are missing the point. I wouldn't be surprised. When you say something nasty against one group... the opposing group might agree with you. This is a difficult concept for you?

Maybe you're.. just.. stupid!

[Mortiiss]

It's funny you say that, because when I flame FE yourself, Eccezan, and tiggles all jumped on the bandwagon.

Maybe you're.. just.. stupid?

They team up a lot. You'll never see just 1 of them replying in a thread, they gotta summon backup to spam posts, I guess.

Anyway, this thread is entertaining. Carry on. :)

[Alarti0001]

They team up a lot. You'll never see just 1 of them replying in a thread, they gotta summon backup to spam posts, I guess.

Anyway, this thread is entertaining. Carry on. :)

As opposed to you, tasselhof, kotton, tanthallas, and godefroi?

Please, usually its just me in here fighting off 3 of you.

Get your facts straight.

[radditsu]

i killed at least 3 Ancient Dragons last night, get on my level bro's

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Dude i killed Talendor, Gore, Fay, Sev 2x, VS 2x this week....as a ~velious geared 6 box on the PEQ server. BUT IT STILL COUNTS!

Trying to find out why exactly trakanon rapes my face however. I got one try in but i think i hit the wrong Cheal Macro and he murdered my SK. Did get him to 50 on an early fail though.

Oh i did this while finding time to train TMO in VP for about 6 hours. If we only had a VP keyed rogue to open the door for us we would have had us a dragon. Don't you doubt.

[Godefroi]

It's funny you say that, because when I flame FE yourself, Eccezan, and tiggles all jumped on the bandwagon.

Maybe you're.. just.. stupid?

I'm confirming Alarti is stupid.

He pretends to be a smart boy, but doesn't understand he's stuck in his own Teufelskreis, he doesn't know when to stop because he cannot stop...

So yes. Confirmed stupid.

[Tiggles]

I'm confirming Alarti is stupid.

He pretends to be a smart boy, but doesn't understand he's stuck in his own Teufelskreis, he doesn't know when to stop because he cannot stop...

So yes. Confirmed stupid.

Confirmed

[Loly Taa]

Okay you guys train each other in VP, whoopdie-doo.

More concerning, what is Ms. Kate shouting in Autotune's sig?

I think she's saying, "No way"

At least, that's how it looks to me.

[Alarti0001]

I'm confirming Alarti is stupid.

He pretends to be a smart boy, but doesn't understand he's stuck in his own Teufelskreis, he doesn't know when to stop because he cannot stop...

So yes. Confirmed stupid.

Its always fun when a verifiable idiot who subscribes to conspiracy theory and irrational thought call you stupid.
Almost life-affirming.
Confirmed.

[Eccezan]

BDA doesn't just train themselves though. They train themselves, the guild ahead of them, the guild behind them, hell they even train the GM trying to fix their mess.

lmao funny because true...surely you are talking about yesterday's hate fiasco!

[Alarti0001]

lmao funny because true...surely you are talking about yesterday's hate fiasco!

Or the day before that.

[Eccezan]

I'm confirming Alarti is stupid.

He pretends to be a smart boy, but doesn't understand he's stuck in his own Teufelskreis, he doesn't know when to stop because he cannot stop...

So yes. Confirmed stupid.

Confirmed French. Equally bad? maybe...

[Tanthallas]

"This is about you and FE, and how the way FE is going to earn their VP dragons are much more impressive than how TMO did, and indeed how IB did as well given that they were in on the rotation."

I honestly don't see them earning a vp dragon kill any time in the next 6 months. The only way it will happen is if:
1. Velious comes out
2. They can successfully stop TMO from killing dragons via training, thereby forcing a rotation.
3. TMO just lets them have a dragon uncontested. If Zeelot alone stopped TR/IB, then how in the world is FE going to manage with Zeelot plus all the other TMO involved.

After last night, I think it was proved that option 2 will work out for them. Their only chance is with Hosh up after a repop. And that isn't going to happen very often. Even then we will have adapted next time, in the event of a full repop.


Dolic

Yet to see a single TMO person post anything in a rational, unbiased manner. Stealin is probably the only one who every now and then has a moment, but other than that you all have your heads up the collective ass of TMO glory.

We locked down the ledge for hours upon hours yesterday. We had 25 strong ready to roll each time we wiped your amateur force with Hoshkar trains. We did not, however, have a rogue to open the door...or be sure there would be a dead dragon.

You cant do anything to us when it gets to the point that Zeelot has to log on Ivandyr to res your CoH mages and clerics on the ledge. I am glad he was able to DA and /q to make it out though, else you would have had other problems.

The only question Dolic is when we will kill your dragons, not if and not under what circumstances. If your 'skill' is what I saw yesterday, you better know that the castle walls are already starting to crumble.

P.S. I killed Zeelot about 4 times. He cant do shit when he is dead.

[Zeelot]

I'm bound right outside, I just zone right back in ;)

You can 'lock down' that ledge all you want lol. It's not as good a prep spot as you would think. If you're not killing dragons it's meaningless.

Lets see if you can back up all that talk!

[Eashan3.0]

How is Velious ?

[Nirgon]

I heard the guys on EQMac had fun with it

[Zenlina]

How is Velious ?

Its pretty good, lots of dragons and stuff, big encounters like ring events and so on. Different factions to quest different armor sets. U should try it when you get a chance.

[Eashan3.0]

yeah u should too... in about 5 months

[Tiggles]

Yet to see a single TMO person post anything in a rational, unbiased manner. Stealin is probably the only one who every now and then has a moment, but other than that you all have your heads up the collective ass of TMO glory.

We locked down the ledge for hours upon hours yesterday. We had 25 strong ready to roll each time we wiped your amateur force with Hoshkar trains. We did not, however, have a rogue to open the door...or be sure there would be a dead dragon.

You cant do anything to us when it gets to the point that Zeelot has to log on Ivandyr to res your CoH mages and clerics on the ledge. I am glad he was able to DA and /q to make it out though, else you would have had other problems.

The only question Dolic is when we will kill your dragons, not if and not under what circumstances. If your 'skill' is what I saw yesterday, you better know that the castle walls are already starting to crumble.

P.S. I killed Zeelot about 4 times. He cant do shit when he is dead.


Your guild is dying everyone can see it I just helped a member of your guild fill out an application today acutally.

You embarrassing yourself by failing to kill any contested raid mobs on the repop shows your guild was NEVER actual competition and just a FTE squad.

[Tiggles]

yeah u should too... in about 5 months

Five months? Stop being generous

[Alarti0001]

Yet to see a single TMO person post anything in a rational, unbiased manner. Stealin is probably the only one who every now and then has a moment, but other than that you all have your heads up the collective ass of TMO glory.

We locked down the ledge for hours upon hours yesterday. We had 25 strong ready to roll each time we wiped your amateur force with Hoshkar trains. We did not, however, have a rogue to open the door...or be sure there would be a dead dragon.

You cant do anything to us when it gets to the point that Zeelot has to log on Ivandyr to res your CoH mages and clerics on the ledge. I am glad he was able to DA and /q to make it out though, else you would have had other problems.

The only question Dolic is when we will kill your dragons, not if and not under what circumstances. If your 'skill' is what I saw yesterday, you better know that the castle walls are already starting to crumble.

P.S. I killed Zeelot about 4 times. He cant do shit when he is dead.

/yawn more action, less shit talking.

Spinning spinning spinning

http://i.imgur.com/MxDrnOc.jpg

[Zenlina]

yeah u should too... in about 5 months

Played it 12+ years ago thus why im letting u know how it is..

:p

[Tanthallas]

Your guild is dying everyone can see it I just helped a member of your guild fill out an application today acutally.

You embarrassing yourself by failing to kill any contested raid mobs on the repop shows your guild was NEVER actual competition and just a FTE squad.

Keep trying to buy Heallun's info champ.

[Tanthallas]

/yawn more action, less shit talking.

Spinning spinning spinning

http://i.imgur.com/MxDrnOc.jpg

3 monks and necro who wasnt even playing his main, who have never trained in VP, managed to kill your 'skilled' players repeatedly last night. It was literally the first time in VP for all of them but Dragonfists.

I am not talking about wiping your raid those many times, I am talking about killing your geared to the teeth, experienced train team. Zeelot, Darkdeath, Bruce, Kautin, and all the others. Shit, you guys killed yourselves almost as much as we killed you.

When we have a force in there, the only thing that can hold us down is your train team. Your 60 people sitting there with their thumbs in their ass are irrelevant. If you guys dont put on a better show when our numbers change from 25 to 45 in VP, I really dont know what to tell you.

[Eashan3.0]

if i had any inside info... and you guys now me I never do. I would say Velious would come out somewhere around may-june so hang in there peeps good times comming I may even come out of retirement and play with you

[Eccezan]

3 monks and necro who wasnt even playing his main, who have never trained in VP, managed to kill your 'skilled' players repeatedly last night. It was literally the first time in VP for all of them but Dragonfists.

I am not talking about wiping your raid those many times, I am talking about killing your geared to the teeth, experienced train team. Zeelot, Darkdeath, Bruce, Kautin, and all the others. Shit, you guys killed yourselves almost as much as we killed you.

When we have a force in there, the only thing that can hold us down is your train team. Your 60 people sitting there with their thumbs in their ass are irrelevant. If you guys dont put on a better show when our numbers change from 25 to 45 in VP, I really dont know what to tell you.

Didn't read this.

What I did read was:

6 VP Dragons down to TMO on Repop day. Business as usual.

0 VP dragons down to FE on Repop Day. Did they even have any attempts?

Love it that we have another guild interested in wasting all their time for no loot. Keep's things spicy in VP for us.

[Eccezan]

3 monks and necro who wasnt even playing his main, who have never trained in VP, managed to kill your 'skilled' players repeatedly last night. It was literally the first time in VP for all of them but Dragonfists.

I am not talking about wiping your raid those many times, I am talking about killing your geared to the teeth, experienced train team. Zeelot, Darkdeath, Bruce, Kautin, and all the others. Shit, you guys killed yourselves almost as much as we killed you.

When we have a force in there, the only thing that can hold us down is your train team. Your 60 people sitting there with their thumbs in their ass are irrelevant. If you guys dont put on a better show when our numbers change from 25 to 45 in VP, I really dont know what to tell you.

words are wind. actions speak volumes, your actions yesterday was killing of TMO's LOWEST priority outdoor kunark dragons. Grats FE.

Spinning your bad EQ playing is entertaining though. I wonder if your members can see through the bullshit as easy as we can.

[Kassel]

if i had any inside info... and you guys now me I never do. I would say Velious would come out somewhere around may-june so hang in there peeps good times comming I may even come out of retirement and play with you

lvl 60 vp keyed, geared and experienced rogue LFGuild for Velious, recent experience with all things Velious.

Hit me up pals

[Tanthallas]

words are wind. actions speak volumes, your actions yesterday was killing of TMO's LOWEST priority outdoor kunark dragons. Grats FE.

Spinning your bad EQ playing is entertaining though. I wonder if your members can see through the bullshit as easy as we can.

I wonder why it takes a server repop for you guys to kill your highest priority kunark mobs?

[Eccezan]

I wonder why it takes a server repop for you guys to kill your highest priority kunark mobs?

http://i.imgur.com/U7ldeKs.jpg

[KentalCowtipper]

Methinks some people are really mad because even while pathetically training in VP we managed to clear all 6 dragons...
/whistle

So the final tally stands for repop 2/12/13:

TMO - 15 mobs
FE - 3 mobs
Divinity - 1 mob
BDA - 0 mobs

Numbers don't lie - I want to hear how all the forum trolls who spin the angle that TMO is crumbling spin this.

19 pages on this thread later the only thing I've gotten from FE forum trolls is the fact that its damn near impossible to spin concrete numbers.
Numbers don't lie.

[Zeelot]

You do realize I wasn't training at all right Tanthallas? Wouldn't take a genius to figure that out. If I wanted to take out all 20+ the FE up on that ledge I could have done so in 1 try, but instead I just went and pulled all 6 dragons. I wasn't too worried about you guys.

I don't need to train if I can just pull dragons and kill them before your guild knows what is going on.

[Alarti0001]

I wonder why it takes a server repop for you guys to kill your highest priority kunark mobs?

Forceful Entry- No Poop, No Loot.

[Tanthallas]

TMO - No Server repop, pays FE plat for VS loot.

[Eccezan]

You do realize I wasn't training at all right Tanthallas? Wouldn't take a genius to figure that out. If I wanted to take out all 20+ the FE up on that ledge I could have done so in 1 try, but instead I just went and pulled all 6 dragons. I wasn't too worried about you guys.

I don't need to train if I can just pull dragons and kill them before your guild knows what is going on.

ssssh zeelot!! but they were feeling good about themselves :(

[Zeelot]

TMO - No Server repop, pays FE plat for VS loot.


Bragging about FTE lottery? LOL

[Eccezan]

TMO - No Server repop, pays FE plat for VS loot.

hahaha oh man...now you are pathetically reaching. How many epics/BP's does your guild owe TMO for the honor of selling the MQ's to you?

hey man, if this you get up in the morning, go farm some blue diamonds for me, TMO will buy all of them ;)

hilarious...

[Eccezan]

hahaha oh man...now you are pathetically reaching. How many epics/BP's does your guild owe TMO for the honor of selling the MQ's to you?

hey man, if this helps you get up in the morning, go farm some blue diamonds for me, TMO will buy all of them ;)

hilarious...

fix'd for retarded, i guess im having a hard time typing and laughing this hard at the same time.

[Tanthallas]

Bragging about FTE lottery? LOL

Name how many VS of the last 6 before the server repop that FE got which were a result of FTE lottery.

Name the Trakanon kills that FE has won as a result of FTE lottery.

Doing that, of course, would show that we simply outmobilize you. I found that VS two spawns ago very comical though...you know, the one that TMO tried to stall hold for a few minutes to only keep throwing bodies at it and wiping.

Only props I give is to Aalpha and Desmo for holding that Trakanon a week ago when FE had 29 on to TMO's 6.

[Kevynne]

WTF... i wasnt aware of this, were you doing it during your days in DA too? Sigh.. i guess would be kind of expected since even Durison flipped out with all his RMT shit eventually too. Now i might need to back track all the long time players back then and work out which of yous bastards were playing fair or not, kind of was wondering where all the fucken loot/bank shit went during those days.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74024

Just have to look at the officership/leadership

Durison _ gone
Fefifofum - gone
Nizzar - On red
Minten (And brother) - gone
Barbarian - Fucking up on EQmac
Supremacy - FE
Necrious - TMO
Azeth - gone
Heebee - Gone EQMac?

Who else did i leave out? And who was on the loot council back then too.

ive seen fefifofum in game in ectunnel alot.

[Kevynne]

How is Velious ?

whats a velious ._.

[Eccezan]

Claims to outmobilize competition.

Kills 3 outdoor dragons on a full repop day and wipes to rest of targets.


You cant write comedy this good (or bad)

[Tanthallas]

Wipe to one target, Trakanon, due to TMO training the shit out of us on ledge.

Thanks TMO!

[Zeelot]

Don't forget about the part where they try to pull a BDA and blame TMO for their own stupid trains on their own people!

[Kevynne]

oh my i love watching raiding guilds fight! /popcorn

[Nirgon]

Create harsher penalties for guild training their own raid rather than finger pointing.

I think TMO handles this nicely. Further if Sirken was there, I'd say it proves no foul play.

Unless of course... you'd like to add a suspended member on top of your lost raid mob :(.

[Tanthallas]

Don't forget about the part where they try to pull a BDA and blame TMO for their own stupid trains on their own people!

Don't forget every single jugg being pulled to the ledge when FE had 30 there to TMOs 5 after we killed sev and you killed VS.

We won the race, some people are just sore losers.

[Alarti0001]

Name how many VS of the last 6 before the server repop that FE got which were a result of FTE lottery.

Name the Trakanon kills that FE has won as a result of FTE lottery.

Doing that, of course, would show that we simply outmobilize you. I found that VS two spawns ago very comical though...you know, the one that TMO tried to stall hold for a few minutes to only keep throwing bodies at it and wiping.

Only props I give is to Aalpha and Desmo for holding that Trakanon a week ago when FE had 29 on to TMO's 6.

You realize you are proving my point? FE no poop no loot.

[Eccezan]

Don't forget every single jugg being pulled to the ledge when FE had 30 there to TMOs 5 after we killed sev and you killed VS.

We won the race, some people are just sore losers.

Part of winning the race includes killing the raid target, otherwise this:

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w485/DVERZARI/you-lose-wanka-meme-generator-you-get-nothing-you-lose-good-day-sir-293090_zpsb07ba4a5.jpg

[Alarti0001]

Don't forget every single jugg being pulled to the ledge when FE had 30 there to TMOs 5 after we killed sev and you killed VS.

We won the race, some people are just sore losers.

Sloan on suicide watch. FE please keep a close eye on him in coming hours...it will be a tough time for him. Take his wine-coolers and call his mom to visit him in her basement.

[Zeelot]

I'd make a meme, but it's not my thing, so I'll just say this:

Couldn't get Trak below 80%....blames TMO

[Metallikus]

tmo is known for training/grieifn their competition if they get beat to a target.

it suprises no one that if FE had 30 at ledge, and tmo only had 5, that the ledge would be "accidentally trained"

[kotton05]

Don't forget about the part where they try to pull a BDA and blame TMO for their own stupid trains on their own people!

proof shows otherwise

[Alarti0001]

Couldn't get Trak below 80%....blames TMO

tmo is known for training/grieifn their competition if they get beat to a target.

it suprises no one that if FE had 30 at ledge, and tmo only had 5, that the ledge would be "accidentally trained"

Case in point. No personal accountability on these other raid guilds. You guys consistently train the fuck out of yourself. With how badly you train yourself I guess its understandable you would want to blame someone else. However the sad truth is, you are just really, really horrible.

[Alarti0001]

proof shows otherwise

Where?

[Tanthallas]

Sloan on suicide watch. FE please keep a close eye on him in coming hours...it will be a tough time for him. Take his wine-coolers and call his mom to visit him in her basement.

Smirnoff Ice, asshole.

[kotton05]

Where?

cant post here or it'd be void , lets just say you cant hide running onto sock mountain with jugs on you and dieing

[Zeelot]

If there was proof you would have the name of the person who trained you at least. You'd need a fraps vid too! I saw FE drop juggs on our members even, what you gonna do, fraps the train after you dropped it on everyone then try to blame TMO?

[Tanthallas]

Was a wizard, name started with an M.

Surpremacy has the fraps...havent seen it yet, but doubt it will be 100% damning.

Either way, we know what happened. In the end, regardless of what you do, we take your mobs.

See you in VP. You will know which character I'm on, it will be the one that you cant kill once again (=

[Alarti0001]

Was a wizard, name started with an M.

Surpremacy has the fraps...havent seen it yet, but doubt it will be 100% damning.

Either way, we know what happened. In the end, regardless of what you do, we take your mobs.

See you in VP. You will know which character I'm on, it will be the one that you cant kill once again (=

Maybe you should take a couple months off... give your guild time to catch up a little... and come back when you are relevant.

[Eccezan]

I'd make a meme, but it's not my thing, so I'll just say this:

Couldn't get Trak below 80%....blames TMO

LUCKY IT IS MY THING..

http://i.imgur.com/fzx1tud.jpg

[kotton05]

:) why put people on blast there is fraps n ss.

[kotton05]

Dirty dirty

[Alarti0001]

LUCKY IT IS MY THING..

http://i.imgur.com/fzx1tud.jpg

Sloan you are seriously disturbing. WTF

Also Ban Eccezan for posting Sloan's R/L photo.

[Zeelot]

Even if one of our wizards died on ledge to juggs, it doesn't mean a thing. Just means they aggro'd him after the train was already around. You'd need proof that he brought it from somewhere.

I didn't train at all in VP last night you know. I have no need to try and wipe out your raid force as of yet. Step up your game and I'll show you some good times. As it stands now, FE is useless at training in VP if hoshkar isn't up.

[Tanthallas]

Maybe you should take a couple months off... give your guild time to catch up a little... and come back when you are relevant.

Your girlfriend would like that.

Sure, she thought having sex in bathroom stalls was fun in the beginning...but like everything in life the magic of the moment just fades away in time.

[Tanthallas]

Even if one of our wizards died on ledge to juggs, it doesn't mean a thing. Just means they aggro'd him after the train was already around. You'd need proof that he brought it from somewhere.

I didn't train at all in VP last night you know. I have no need to try and wipe out your raid force as of yet. Step up your game and I'll show you some good times. As it stands now, FE is useless at training in VP if hoshkar isn't up.

Nah you just logged on Ivandyr to res your entire train force that we were destroying on the ledge a few times, trying to spam bracer of the hidden on me unsuccessfully with Zeelot the many times I brought Hoshkar and co. to destroy your 'skilled' players sitting around waiting for you to shout them orders.

I will say though, if it wasnt for Necrious actually using his brain you guys would have been in some trouble.

[kotton05]

Zeelot. So seeing someone run up with lev onto the mountain dieing with jugs on him ='s not enough proof? I'm just trying to understand. So unless someone followed him all the way thru seb it wouldn't count in your eyes?

[Tanthallas]

You show him the fraps and he will still deny it Merkk.

Will claim someone trained him at king room and he, like the brave soul all TMO are, brought it all the way to ledge for us to take care of our own mob.

[Tiggles]

Nah you just logged on Ivandyr to res your entire train force that we were destroying on the ledge a few times, trying to spam bracer of the hidden on me unsuccessfully with Zeelot the many times I brought Hoshkar and co. to destroy your 'skilled' players sitting around waiting for you to shout them orders.

I will say though, if it wasnt for Necrious actually using his brain you guys would have been in some trouble.

^ Killed zero mobs in VP last night

[Zeelot]

Considering it was FE who dropped the juggs on him? Sure, petition yourselves.


I don't use bracer of the hidden ever, so you are just making things up.

[kotton05]

Oh I see, lovely.

[kotton05]

Petition to get one toon banned haha how useless. There's a diff between crying and stating facts. Wasn't dumped on him from us. Sorry. Not buying it.

[Alarti0001]

You show him the fraps and he will still deny it Merkk.

Will claim someone trained him at king room and he, like the brave soul all TMO are, brought it all the way to ledge for us to take care of our own mob.

Exhibit A: Sloan claiming evidence and trying to find reason why he won't present said evidence.

[Tanthallas]

^ Killed zero mobs in VP last night

^ Ate zero marshmallows in the last 2 months.

[Tanthallas]

Exhibit A: Sloan claiming evidence and trying to find reason why he won't present said evidence.

Exhibit B: Alarti. Case closed.

Im leaving right now, but I try to send you those SS by the weekend sweetie!

[Alarti0001]

Exhibit B: Alarti. Case closed.

Im leaving right now, but I try to send you those SS by the weekend sweetie!

Deflect! Spin! Dodge!

[goshozal]

I wasn't present for either Trak or VP yesterday. I was at work when the repop hit. I don't claim to have any knowledge of what actually went down in the clusterfuck race-fest that must have ensued. I'm new to TMO and the raiding scene. I don't have any pre-existing issues with anyone here.

That said:

It blows my mind that FE is claiming TMO is crooked and accusing them of training juggs at trak, while at the same time openly stating that they went into VP with no intent of killing any dragons, only for the purpose training TMO.

Do you really think you have some kind of moral high ground here?

-Maksim

[Taresh]

It blows my mind that FE is claiming TMO is crooked and accusing them of training juggs at trak, while at the same time openly stating that they went into VP with no intent of killing any dragons, only for the purpose training TMO.

Do you really think you have some kind of moral high ground here?

-Maksim

that question was so dumb it doesn't deserve an answer

here's a panda:

http://i.imgur.com/4POwzLD.jpg

[goshozal]

that question was so dumb it doesn't deserve an answer

I'm aware that the server rules are different in VP than anywhere else. However, I really don't see how someone can claim crooked play by trains while admitting that they went to train.

Like I said, I'm new. Please do educate me, Mr. Diggles.

-Maksim

[kotton05]

Morale high ground? Morales seem to have been out the window long ago.

Isn't training in VP welcomed and with in rules (Yes) What changes if you have raid force siting there or not...

Dirty dirty trainers claim need raid force to train.

[Tanthallas]

I wasn't present for either Trak or VP yesterday. I was at work when the repop hit. I don't claim to have any knowledge of what actually went down in the clusterfuck race-fest that must have ensued. I'm new to TMO and the raiding scene. I don't have any pre-existing issues with anyone here.

That said:

It blows my mind that FE is claiming TMO is crooked and accusing them of training juggs at trak, while at the same time openly stating that they went into VP with no intent of killing any dragons, only for the purpose training TMO.

Do you really think you have some kind of moral high ground here?

-Maksim

lol?

[kotton05]

;-)

[Zeelot]

Morale

You got the word wrong. Morale refers to what FE is losing a lot of after yesterday's repop.

[Taresh]

this is a game over pixels not a moral crusade

[Autotune]

tmo is known for training/grieifn their competition if they get beat to a target.

it suprises no one that if FE had 30 at ledge, and tmo only had 5, that the ledge would be "accidentally trained"

I've watched you train VD at Trak before and then VD blame it on TMO. after VD got trained they brought it all back to ledge on top of the few TMO that didn't log out in time.

oh god how this quote is hilarious to me.

You got the word wrong. Morale refers to what FE is losing a lot of after yesterday's repop.

this one too...

[kotton05]

Oh thanks zeelot for correcting my typo! Wasn't a loss 1 epic dragon n 2 loot dragons.... Grats on vs tho. Only thing that saddens me was I missed him. For some reason I really like that encounter.

Saying we're not having fun out doing the giant with all mobs but vp/ct is a joke. Having a blast here. Y'all make it worth while.

[Tanthallas]

I'm aware that the server rules are different in VP than anywhere else. However, I really don't see how someone can claim crooked play by trains while admitting that they went to train.

Like I said, I'm new. Please do educate me, Mr. Diggles.

-Maksim

Training is not allowed anywhere but in VP. It is essential on this server to maintain dominance and/or accomplish anything in VP. This is the environment that FE has to deal with to break into VP, and this is the environment that reigned when TMO entered VP as well.

It would be nice if PEOPLE could come to an agreement such that this was not necessary, however that will not happen. Your guild controls VP and will not make any concessions that would in any way remove there ability to do so.

Its not about morals or ethics, it is about using whatever tactic possible within the set of rules that can achieve dominance. Unfortunately, rules are never perfect such that there are always ways to work within their grey areas. Training outside of VP happens because people think they can get away with it, and alot of times they do.

I dont think most people here are trying to degrade you, but at the same time you should not be so naive. Hope that helps.

[goshozal]

How does training TMO while not having a force to "break into" VP present help FE?

[Alarti0001]

Training is not allowed anywhere but in VP. It is essential on this server to maintain dominance and/or accomplish anything in VP. This is the environment that FE has to deal with to break into VP, and this is the environment that reigned when TMO entered VP as well.

It would be nice if PEOPLE could come to an agreement such that this was not necessary, however that will not happen. Your guild controls VP and will not make any concessions that would in any way remove there ability to do so.

Its not about morals or ethics, it is about using whatever tactic possible within the set of rules that can achieve dominance. Unfortunately, rules are never perfect such that there are always ways to work within their grey areas. Training outside of VP happens because people think they can get away with it, and alot of times they do.

I dont think most people here are trying to degrade you, but at the same time you should not be so naive. Hope that helps.

It is essential to accomplish anything in VP. So why didn't you bring in a raid force to accomplish something? Only VD in the past trained for no reason other than loot denial or griefing. Even IB didn't do that.

[Autotune]

Training is not allowed anywhere but in VP. It is essential on this server to maintain dominance and/or accomplish anything in VP. This is the environment that FE has to deal with to break into VP, and this is the environment that reigned when TMO entered VP as well.

It would be nice if PEOPLE could come to an agreement such that this was not necessary, however that will not happen. Your guild controls VP and will not make any concessions that would in any way remove there ability to do so.

Its not about morals or ethics, it is about using whatever tactic possible within the set of rules that can achieve dominance. Unfortunately, rules are never perfect such that there are always ways to work within their grey areas. Training outside of VP happens because people think they can get away with it, and alot of times they do.

I dont think most people here are trying to degrade you, but at the same time you should not be so naive. Hope that helps.

Training needs to be legal in all raid zones (this means zones designed for raiding) and Trakanon lair (everything past the locked door).

Then things would balance out so lovely.

Next take away stupid large variance.

finally watch poopsocking fucking die the horrible fucking death that it needs to fucking die.

Go ahead, park 20 on spawn point while I run around with my army of battletoads, mother fucker, I dare you.

[goshozal]

Alarti better stated my question. I don't see anything "essential" about FE's behavior. What I see are people behaving like angry children. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt, though, being the new kid, but I'd really like some explanation here.

I get that the rules are different in VP, but I don't see how you make your guild look good by claiming TMO cheats with trains and then attempting (and failing) to grief TMO with trains.

[Taresh]

What I see are people behaving like angry children.

You just described the entirety of P99's raiding playerbase.

[Autotune]

Alarti better stated my question. I don't see anything "essential" about FE's behavior. What I see are people behaving like angry children. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt, though, being the new kid, but I'd really like some explanation here.

I get that the rules are different in VP, but I don't see how you make your guild look good by claiming TMO cheats with trains and then attempting (and failing) to grief TMO with trains.
So by viewing them as the kid, does that mean you only view them as such because you think of yourself as the adult with the superior intelligence and wisdom?

[kotton05]

Stealing I wish pooping would die a horrible death as well. I agree with all your points as well. Would level it out at least.

[goshozal]

It doesn't really mesh with the whole "TMO are ruthless underhanded loot whores" message that FE loves to recite when they admit failing at doing the exact thing they claim to abhor.

Somebody already quoted Nietzsche in this thread, so I won't bother.

[goshozal]

So by viewing them as the kid, does that mean you only view them as such because you think of yourself as the adult with the superior intelligence and wisdom?

I'm talking about behavior here, Stealin, not how I perceive other people.

Peoples' behavior does affect how I perceive them.

I don't think I'm superior to anyone here. I'm trying to understand rationale. In that same post I referred to myself as the "new kid."

[Autotune]

I'm trying to understand rationale.

And that's what I wanted you to say (well something close to that anyhow).


Now I want you to check the majority of titles and posts made in this forum section that you are replying in.


Then i want you to reply here again about how you've learned something new


:)

[radditsu]

Alarti better stated my question. I don't see anything "essential" about FE's behavior. What I see are people behaving like angry children. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt, though, being the new kid, but I'd really like some explanation here.

I get that the rules are different in VP, but I don't see how you make your guild look good by claiming TMO cheats with trains and then attempting (and failing) to grief TMO with trains.

Get to 60, start raiding, and play with these motherfuckers. They do NOT follow the rules, aka they train in non training zones, they do anything and everything to perpetuate the absolute toilet that was Fennin Ro. I played on povar, we had two absolute monster guilds for a very very long time. Even at the height of the tensions and shit they would put the good of their name over any pixel. Trust me on this.
Their actions are also highly suspect on a great many of activities that I will not spell out. Certain things that only they could now be in position to perpetuate. I have been in BDA and now FE, I see how the people in those two guilds cherish what they can get.

You have not heard their flippant attitude on any and all guild councils, sans the great ragefire agreement.

You have not seen them tempt guild leaders of other guilds with quick pixels then absorb them anytime another guild (like FE) comes along and puts up a decent fight.

You haven't seen certain Mclovin sounding Necromancer train you over a MAESTRO.

When they first started getting trak teeth, they went by the absolute bullshit rule that is "no csr help in VP" to mean "Train City motherfuckers" instead of the commonly accepted rule of no corpse summoning or return, which was in place to keep GM favoritism out (which it didnt) and to not have GM's deal with the messed up pathing/buggy zone that is VP.

They picked the terms, they are dealing with the consequences.

FE has great relationships with guilds for the most part. We routinely will work with and partner with any as the need arises. Are we competitive? Hell, yes. We want a challenge. We don't want pixels handed to us. Come at us TMO. We will work and take what we get. In 3 months we went from a blip on TMO's radar to their primary concern.

Do you get it now?

[Eccezan]

Get to 60, start raiding, and play with these motherfuckers. They do NOT follow the rules, aka they train in non training zones, they do anything and everything to perpetuate the absolute toilet that was Fennin Ro. I played on povar, we had two absolute monster guilds for a very very long time. Even at the height of the tensions and shit they would put the good of their name over any pixel. Trust me on this.
Their actions are also highly suspect on a great many of activities that I will not spell out. Certain things that only they could now be in position to perpetuate. I have been in BDA and now FE, I see how the people in those two guilds cherish what they can get.

You have not heard their flippant attitude on any and all guild councils, sans the great ragefire agreement.

You have not seen them tempt guild leaders of other guilds with quick pixels then absorb them anytime another guild (like FE) comes along and puts up a decent fight.

You haven't seen certain Mclovin sounding Necromancer train you over a MAESTRO.

When they first started getting trak teeth, they went by the absolute bullshit rule that is "no csr help in VP" to mean "Train City motherfuckers" instead of the commonly accepted rule of no corpse summoning or return, which was in place to keep GM favoritism out (which it didnt) and to not have GM's deal with the messed up pathing/buggy zone that is VP.

They picked the terms, they are dealing with the consequences.

FE has great relationships with guilds for the most part. We routinely will work with and partner with any as the need arises. Are we competitive? Hell, yes. We want a challenge. We don't want pixels handed to us. Come at us TMO. We will work and take what we get. In 3 months we went from a blip on TMO's radar to their primary concern.

Do you get it now?

We are TMO's Primary Concern.

Full Repop? Kill 3 low priority outdoor dragons and wipe on all other attempted targets.

[Splorf22]

What I got from that post tanrin:

1. We need train detection code serverside. It's just hard to tell what the hell is going on otherwise with 20 people running around.

2. Stealin needs to change his last name to McLovin.

[Tiggles]

Get to 60, start raiding, and play with these motherfuckers. They do NOT follow the rules, aka they train in non training zones, they do anything and everything to perpetuate the absolute toilet that was Fennin Ro. I played on povar, we had two absolute monster guilds for a very very long time. Even at the height of the tensions and shit they would put the good of their name over any pixel. Trust me on this.
Their actions are also highly suspect on a great many of activities that I will not spell out. Certain things that only they could now be in position to perpetuate. I have been in BDA and now FE, I see how the people in those two guilds cherish what they can get.

You have not heard their flippant attitude on any and all guild councils, sans the great ragefire agreement.

You have not seen them tempt guild leaders of other guilds with quick pixels then absorb them anytime another guild (like FE) comes along and puts up a decent fight.

You haven't seen certain Mclovin sounding Necromancer train you over a MAESTRO.

When they first started getting trak teeth, they went by the absolute bullshit rule that is "no csr help in VP" to mean "Train City motherfuckers" instead of the commonly accepted rule of no corpse summoning or return, which was in place to keep GM favoritism out (which it didnt) and to not have GM's deal with the messed up pathing/buggy zone that is VP.

They picked the terms, they are dealing with the consequences.

FE has great relationships with guilds for the most part. We routinely will work with and partner with any as the need arises. Are we competitive? Hell, yes. We want a challenge. We don't want pixels handed to us. Come at us TMO. We will work and take what we get. In 3 months we went from a blip on TMO's radar to their primary concern.

Do you get it now?

Guys you peaked when you snagged all those traks and after that poor showing recently your guild is apping elsewhere in record numbers.

no one wants to be the last rat on a sinking ship.

[radditsu]

What I got from that post tanrin:

1. We need train detection code serverside. It's just hard to tell what the hell is going on otherwise with 20 people running around.

2. Stealin needs to change his last name to McLovin.

Nah its not stealin. I have never had the honor of a Stealin train.

[Ungriim]

If there was proof you would have the name of the person who trained you at least. You'd need a fraps vid too! I saw FE drop juggs on our members even, what you gonna do, fraps the train after you dropped it on everyone then try to blame TMO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy3J3Lw9w40

Here you go. It was Mazam.

[Taresh]

Dark Ascension is making a comeback.

[kotton05]

And 1/3rd of ours is mains, the rest is alts or retired!

Don't worry, guilds of the lineage of yours don't last long enough to collect so many characters.

Guys you peaked when you snagged all those traks and after that poor showing recently your guild is apping elsewhere in record numbers.

no one wants to be the last rat on a sinking ship.

Lol you're delerious

[MaksimMazor]

I almost got tired of killing all the dragons in VP last night. I wonder what it must've been like not killing dragons that whole time.

________________________
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Jeed Jeeb - Illusionist
< The Mystical Order >

[49shadesofgay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy3J3Lw9w40

Here you go. It was Mazam.

Wow. I hope that you guys petitioned with this! I'm glad you are learning from past mistakes and are always running Fraps. :)

[Autotune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy3J3Lw9w40

Here you go. It was Mazam.

So you got a fraps of Mazam dying and juggs leaving ledge... where is the fraps of TMO training your raid and causing you to wipe lol?

[49shadesofgay]

So you got a fraps of Mazam dying and juggs leaving ledge... where is the fraps of TMO training your raid and causing you to wipe lol?

They need to wipe now for it to be considered training?

What kind of fucked up environment were you raised in that you can't distinguish between right and wrong?

[Autotune]

Wow. I hope that you guys petitioned with this! I'm glad you are learning from past mistakes and are always running Fraps. :)

I support this message.

[Autotune]

They need to wipe now for it to be considered training?

What kind of fucked up environment were you raised in that you can't distinguish between right and wrong?

Oh man, if i got petitioned for every time mobs ran by another group of people and scared them... oh wait I have and never got banned for it because it's not training.

[Heebee]

Heebee - Gone EQMac?

Who else did i leave out? And who was on the loot council back then too.

Nope - I quit. You missed out a few others, Aadill (quit), Veric (quit).

Also FYI I handed all the DA guildbank items I had back to Durison or Nizzarr the day after I quit DA.

[Alarti0001]

So you got a fraps of Mazam dying and juggs leaving ledge... where is the fraps of TMO training your raid and causing you to wipe lol?

Agreed. Its a wizard... let me know how a wizard with what 4 juggs? on him would survive to ledge.

[Taresh]

patriot1776> harrisons favorite meal
patriot1776> http://i.imgur.com/IOhKecs.jpg
Punda> its a photoshop
Punda> i can tell by the pixels
Wa11ace> and by having seen many a shop before
Punda> and having seen a shop or 2 before
Punda> wow
Punda> WALLACE ON POINT

[Heebee]

Nope - I quit. You missed out a few others, Aadill (quit), Veric (quit).

Also FYI I handed all the DA guildbank items I had back to Durison or Nizzarr the day after I quit DA.

Oh and Zenlina - all that consisted of were some shitbox Sky quest items (like a couple of shitty efreeti weapons and some lame common sky drops) - I never held any items of value, nor did I hold any platinum for DA.

[Autotune]

I mean, it actually looks like Mazam and 1 (maybe 1 more) died and the "train" ran off on it own to someone else with aggro.

At no time did it ever stop and reaggro on anyone in this fraps (so it wasn't a train that got dropped on them)


Aka, this "train" was aggro'd the entire time and was never dumped on an unsuspecting force.


Eat shit and have a nice night :)

[Taresh]

Bald:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Black:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Ex-Military turned cop:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Hunted by Police:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Died in a cabin fire:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √

[Relapse2]

TmO should be raid suspended for that train. KEEP THE BOX LEGIT

[Eccezan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy3J3Lw9w40

Here you go. It was Mazam.

Looks to me that somehow mazam got aggro on 4 juggs, the video doesn't show how. Given how fast these juggs wtf pwned him, I really down that that he was the one that initiated the train.

2nd thing Ive noticed is that, regardless who actually trained -- the juggs were on ledge for a total of 7 seconds and did minimal damage. If you need to blame this for your wipe to trak with 40 people, i find that really funny.

Also, whats up with the shady ass PM's at the top of the video about Corova <Forceful Entry> training and then Brutulis getting it on fraps? You forget to edit this out? Entire thing seems shady to me.

[Autotune]

Bald:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Black:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Ex-Military turned cop:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Hunted by Police:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √
Died in a cabin fire:
James Doakes : √
Christopher Dorner : √

glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.

Decent show.

[Servellious]

trains another guild, claims ok cause guild didnt wipe, that is a new spin on things. So if someone trains but enough that it DOESNT wipe another guild its acceptable ?

[Eccezan]

Looks to me that somehow mazam got aggro on 4 juggs, the video doesn't show how. Given how fast these juggs wtf pwned him, I really down that that he was the one that initiated the train.

2nd thing Ive noticed is that, regardless who actually trained -- the juggs were on ledge for a total of 7 seconds and did minimal damage. If you need to blame this for your wipe to trak with 40 people, i find that really funny.

Also, whats up with the shady ass PM's at the top of the video about Corova <Forceful Entry> training and then Brutulis getting it on fraps? You forget to edit this out? Entire thing seems shady to me.

Really funny that along with that dialogue to Corova, about corova training and brutillus frapsing it, the camera angle was suspiciously in the perfect location to capture it all....very very shady...am i the only one that see's this?

[Autotune]

trains another guild, claims ok cause guild didnt wipe, that is a new spin on things. So if someone trains but enough that it DOESNT wipe another guild its acceptable ?

didn't look like it killed anyone but TMO then ran off.

If guilds are going to get raid suspended for training themselves, we want all the previous ones you guys and BDA have done against themselves enforced retroactively please.


See you in 3 years for Velious.

[Relapse2]

yesterday you *****s were saying there was no train now you guys saying as long as a guild doesn't wipe it is not labeled a train what is next.

[Heebee]

yesterday you *****s were saying there was no train now you guys saying as long as a guild doesn't wipe it is not labeled a train what is next.

reported for racism.

[Servellious]

yesterday you *****s were saying there was no train now you guys saying as long as a guild doesn't wipe it is not labeled a train what is next.

This man speaketh the truth.

[Eccezan]

yesterday you *****s were saying there was no train now you guys saying as long as a guild doesn't wipe it is not labeled a train what is next.

hilarious and true....lmao

[Alarti0001]

trains another guild, claims ok cause guild didnt wipe, that is a new spin on things. So if someone trains but enough that it DOESNT wipe another guild its acceptable ?

First off BDA member you trained the shit out of TMO 2 days in a row in hate. We didnt petition you.. Self reflection is in order.

[Eccezan]

didn't look like it killed anyone but TMO then ran off.

If guilds are going to get raid suspended for training themselves, we want all the previous ones you guys and BDA have done against themselves enforced retroactively please.


See you in 3 years for Velious.

this is hilarious and true, what relapsee said was just racist and stupid.

[Autotune]

yesterday you *****s were saying there was no train now you guys saying as long as a guild doesn't wipe it is not labeled a train what is next.

what *****s, pretty sure they were saying they trained themselves, and from what i heard they trained tola on themselves during Trak engage, not this retarded "train" lol.

[Splorf22]

What is strange about this train is the juggs leaving. So they had aggro on Mazam, ~2-3 other people at the ledge who died fast (Droxx and Goodies?), and then someone who wasn't on the ledge (the second gunman behind the grassy knoll). You can also see Mazam trying to run away from the ledge while getting wtfpwned (of course if he was trying to make it seem like an accident he'd do that as well)

Actually your video is quite an interesting puzzle. The big question for me is how Mazam got aggro on the train. Droxx and Goodies buffed the wrong player at the wrong time is my guess, but Wizards have no buffs to speak of. And with the (unclassic) way aggro works here on 99 if you don't have aggro you can sit next to a fight buffing the hell out of yourself and it won't matter. Of course if Mazam was really training you it would make perfect sense, but then how did the mystery man get aggro? So right now two scenarios make the most sense to me.

1) Mazam was trained by a FE monk type. They stood up and reaggroed after he dumped his train on the ledge, but Droxx and Goodies bit the dust first because they had buff aggro and were sitting down

2) Mazam was training but a FE necro type did the heal to try and pull aggro and it didn't work immediately

How about you ask Mazam to post some logs :D

[eqmaze]

FE Claim TMO train wipes them on Trakengage

FE Posts fraps of a wiz dying out of lair and FE laughing


*****s must be making dollars cuz they sure aint making sense

[Relapse2]

what is stupid is you guys spinning shit every day it is something fucking new. I do not even play here and feel fucking sorry for anyone that has to put up with TMO fucktard ways. Yesterday, Alarti and his other cock munglers all argued that FE did not get trained. Fraps get posted to prove you wronf and you try and spin it off with a new rule never heard of on this server. Lets be honest you fuck faces are the most manipulative, retarded, fuckwad, cunts that has ever collected in any game ever. I hope FE trains your punk asses for the next year n half.

[Autotune]

What is strange about this train is the juggs leaving. So they had aggro on Mazam, ~2-3 other people at the ledge who died fast (Droxx and Goodies?), and then someone who wasn't on the ledge (the second gunman behind the grassy knoll). You can also see Mazam trying to run away from the ledge while getting wtfpwned (of course if he was trying to make it seem like an accident he'd do that as well)

Actually your video is quite an interesting puzzle. The big question for me is how Mazam got aggro on the train. Droxx and Goodies buffed the wrong player at the wrong time is my guess, but Wizards have no buffs to speak of. And with the (unclassic) way aggro works here on 99 if you don't have aggro you can sit next to a fight buffing the hell out of yourself and it won't matter. Of course if Mazam was really training you it would make perfect sense, but then how did the mystery man get aggro? So right now two scenarios make the most sense to me.

1) Mazam was trained by a FE monk type. They stood up and reaggroed after he dumped his train on the ledge, but Droxx and Goodies bit the dust first because they had buff aggro and were sitting down

2) Mazam was training but a FE necro type did the heal to try and pull aggro and it didn't work immediately

How about you ask Mazam to post some logs :D

Goodies was already dead, so was droxx i believe, look at corpses on the ground prior. I know Goodies was already dead, there is a rez message in guildchat at the start.

[Autotune]

what is stupid is you guys spinning shit every day it is something fucking new. I do not even play here and feel fucking sorry for anyone that has to put up with TMO fucktard ways. Yesterday, Alarti and his other cock munglers all argued that FE did not get trained. Fraps get posted to prove you wronf and you try and spin it off with a new rule never heard of on this server. Lets be honest you fuck faces are the most manipulative, retarded, fuckwad, cunts that has ever collected in any game ever. I hope FE trains your punk asses for the next year n half.

Mad cuz wrong.

[Heebee]

So.... just as an aside... where'd everyone go from #project1999 irc?

[Eccezan]

what is stupid is you guys spinning shit every day it is something fucking new. I do not even play here and feel fucking sorry for anyone that has to put up with TMO fucktard ways. Yesterday, Alarti and his other cock munglers all argued that FE did not get trained. Fraps get posted to prove you wronf and you try and spin it off with a new rule never heard of on this server. Lets be honest you fuck faces are the most manipulative, retarded, fuckwad, cunts that has ever collected in any game ever. I hope FE trains your punk asses for the next year n half.

U mad bro?

[Splorf22]

Goodies was already dead, so was droxx i believe, look at corpses on the ground prior. I know Goodies was already dead, there is a rez message in guildchat at the start.

Hmm I don't think that really changes the analysis. Mazam post your logs for posterity!

[eqmaze]

what is stupid is I do not even play here

FTFY

[Taresh]

So.... just as an aside... where'd everyone go from #project1999 irc?

Estu went hall monitor on the channel, all of the interesting people left for greener pastures.

can pm you address if u want

[Lorraine]

Alarti better stated my question. I don't see anything "essential" about FE's behavior. What I see are people behaving like angry children. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt, though, being the new kid, but I'd really like some explanation here.

I get that the rules are different in VP, but I don't see how you make your guild look good by claiming TMO cheats with trains and then attempting (and failing) to grief TMO with trains.


Hello, are you new around here?
Are you talking about this question, by any chance?


It is essential to accomplish anything in VP. So why didn't you bring in a raid force to accomplish something? Only VD in the past trained for no reason other than loot denial or griefing. Even IB didn't do that.


If so, then just pick up the first stone you find in Norrath and look under it. You will find out that TMO actually started this. While they were raid suspended none the less. Alarti will tell you it was done to "protect dragons that TMO would kill 12 hours later once their raid suspention would secretly end".

Or we could be straight forward and call it loot denial. What's the big deal with calling a cat a cat anyway, right?

[quido]

Relapsee chooses to justify his own failure by slandering those who destroyed him.

lol why don't you just get over it and find a new game

[eqmaze]

< loot denial > best new guild name

[Alarti0001]

Hello, are you new around here?
Are you talking about this question, by any chance?





If so, then just pick up the first stone you find in Norrath and look under it. You will find out that TMO actually started this. While they were raid suspended none the less. Alarti will tell you it was done to "protect dragons that TMO would kill 12 hours later once their raid suspention would secretly end".

Or we could be straight forward and call it loot denial. What's the big deal with calling a cat a cat anyway, right?

Loot denial, how I used the word, is training without intention to kill something. We did kill something.

VD constantly trained and exploited the memblur bug and had no intention of bringing in a raid force to VP. It was started by VD. Derp

[Ungriim]

Another TMO brought a jugg up earlier which we killed, this is why we started fraps. As you can see in the video if you watch it and my health bar, the juggs agro me, and I run it off to where 8-9 TMO were standing on the old ledge. Then I say "this is your train" to them and stand there with DA. No one picks it up, so I run the train away. Bunch of people die to AE with no bard. Train is train.

[Lorraine]

Loot denial, how I used the word, is training without intention to kill something. We did kill something.

VD constantly trained and exploited the memblur bug and had no intention of bringing in a raid force to VP. It was started by VD. Derp


http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3905/pkyj7.png

[Eccezan]

Another TMO brought a jugg up earlier which we killed, this is why we started fraps. As you can see in the video if you watch it and my health bar, the juggs agro me, and I run it off to where 8-9 TMO were standing on the old ledge. Then I say "this is your train" to them and stand there with DA. No one picks it up, so I run the train away. Bunch of people die to AE with no bard. Train is train.

likely story.

[Ungriim]

Oh and the talk of training at the top is the pally training all the lair away. Which has been a tactic forever.

[Zeelot]

If so, then just pick up the first stone you find in Norrath and look under it. You will find out that TMO actually started this. While they were raid suspended none the less. Alarti will tell you it was done to "protect dragons that TMO would kill 12 hours later once their raid suspention would secretly end".

Or we could be straight forward and call it loot denial. What's the big deal with calling a cat a cat anyway, right?


?? TMO was forbidden from zoning in let alone training in VP during last suspension. We never did it.

[Ungriim]

Plenty of TMO I ran past saw me training juggs out. I almost made it to zone out! Got to just past king

[Eccezan]

Oh and the talk of training at the top is the pally training all the lair away. Which has been a tactic forever.

likely story also.

You left out the part after the end of this fraps where Shinko trains every jugg + mushroom in king down to tmo, but we handled that train and killed Trakanon swiftly so we didn't need to fraps that.

<3

[Ungriim]

95>45 grats

[falkun]

You and I both know which suspension Lorr is talking about, Zeelot. I know TMO has had a few, but you can keep them straight.

[eqmaze]

?? TMO was forbidden from zoning in let alone training in VP during last suspension. We never did it.

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[Lorraine]

Oh and the talk of training at the top is the pally training all the lair away. Which has been a tactic forever.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3193/paladins2.jpg

[quido]

The suspension was unjust - that's why it was reversed! Unfortunately Amelinda doesn't have a time machine like Zeelot, tho.

[Autotune]

Another TMO brought a jugg up earlier which we killed, this is why we started fraps. As you can see in the video if you watch it and my health bar, the juggs agro me, and I run it off to where 8-9 TMO were standing on the old ledge. Then I say "this is your train" to them and stand there with DA. No one picks it up, so I run the train away. Bunch of people die to AE with no bard. Train is train.

So you had aggro the entire time on the train.

That train never stopped to acquire a target, it's painfully obvious.

[quido]

let's see the fraps

[Ungriim]

So you had aggro the entire time on the train.

That train never stopped to acquire a target, it's painfully obvious.

WTB fade! =(

[Autotune]

let's see the fraps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy3J3Lw9w40

[Lorraine]

?? TMO was forbidden from zoning in let alone training in VP during last suspension. We never did it.


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2964/avatar13441.jpg


You and I both know which suspension Lorr is talking about, Zeelot. I know TMO has had a few, but you can keep them straight.

[49shadesofgay]

U mad bro?

[Zeelot]

lol you have a picture of me as your avatar? Sexy

[Autotune]

lol you have a picture of me as your avatar? Sexy

Confirmed legit screen capture of Zeelot while performing his execution of guilds in VP.

[Loly Taa]

Can someone explain to me what the hell that fraps is supposed to show?

[Taresh]

Man uthgaard you are one creepy ******.

[Taresh]

Back on topic, clearly there is no one in bed with me.

http://i39.tinypic.com/uuezd.jpg

Cropped to prevent embarrassing the little fellas trollin'

[Zeelot]

Man uthgaard you are one creepy ******.

haha. I've been officially creeped upon. Glad I'm liked enough for people to dig up my RL pics though.

[Autotune]

Now we know why that shadow is so large.


Confirmed Uthgaard has might boner for Zeelot and Violin.

[49shadesofgay]

lol you have a picture of me as your avatar? Sexy

Someone sent it to me and told me there would be lols if I used it.

Lols

[Autotune]

haha. I've been officially creeped upon. Glad I'm liked enough for people to dig up my RL pics though.

I doubt he had to dig it up, prob his desktop background...

[49shadesofgay]

Your goose is cooked.

[Zeelot]

That was a duck my friend!

[Itap]

This thread just got weird

[49shadesofgay]

That was a duck my friend!

Quack.

[Autotune]

Your goose is cooked.

I bet you'd like to cook his goose... you dirty dog you ;););););)

[49shadesofgay]

Can I keep this one it's pretty awesome?

[Hitchens]

Someone sent it to me and told me there would be lols if I used it.

Lols

http://i49.tinypic.com/9vei2r.jpg

[Zeelot]

It's definitely a good one! That was taken when I was backpacking across Japan. (walked over 250km). Found some random guy with some awesome pet ducks, just had to take a pic. Though that pic is like from 6 years ago btw.

[Splorf22]

http://i49.tinypic.com/9vei2r.jpg

[Eccezan]

thats all fine and dandy, but what about the no RL pics rule? Inc ban.

[Autotune]

thats all fine and dandy, but what about the no RL pics rule? Inc ban.

lol.

[Tanthallas]

Someone sent it to me and told me there would be lols if I used it.

Lols

+1

[49shadesofgay]

thats all fine and dandy, but what about the no RL pics rule? Inc ban.

Inc 48shadesofgay.. bfd? lol

[49shadesofgay]

Sides I don't think he cares. :)

[Zeelot]

Wow it even took me awhile to find that pic on my own facebook page. Someone been doing some serious creeping. I'm honored.

Yeah it doesn't bother me really, just a little creepy.

[Loly Taa]

Wow it even took me awhile to find that pic on my own facebook page. Someone been doing some serious creeping. I'm honored.

Yeah it doesn't bother me really, just a little creepy.

I'm sure he'll get around to letting you know how much he likes to watch you sleep soon.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Someone do my background check.

I demand a stalker.

[Ele]

Someone do my background check.

I demand a stalker.

I know where you sleep. I sometimes visit your place while you are gone.

[49shadesofgay]

I'm sure he'll get around to letting you know how much he likes to watch you sleep soon.

Not going to Canada/East Lansing any time soon bro, sorry.

[Servellious]

so rule of thumb here is people if you aggro several high level mobs, run to the nearest raid to die, dont go across water to other safe ledge or run away from raid to not train them. Also its only a train if it wipes the other guild.

[Tiggles]

Someone do my background check.

I demand a stalker.

gimme 48-72 hours

[Frieza_Prexus]

gimme 48-72 hours

http://i.imgur.com/xmZmHeJ.jpg

[Taresh]

tiggles said he would talk to me today

never talked to me today

[Tiggles]

tiggles said he would talk to me today

never talked to me today

I forgot your in game it was like panda something

[Taresh]

punda bro

but i was playin sum1 else and kept /whoing

[Tiggles]

punda bro

but i was playin sum1 else and kept /whoing

oh i'm on my mage nothing in window no need for the rogue

[Taresh]

whats the name of mage????? pm or something

[Lorraine]

What the hell is this, stop with the grossing reacharounds and whatnot, and let the thread get back on track, Euroscum need some entertainment as well.


Your goose is cooked.

That was a duck my friend!

Confirmed duck given.

[Tanthallas]

Also, whats up with the shady ass PM's at the top of the video about Corova <Forceful Entry> training and then Brutulis getting it on fraps? You forget to edit this out? Entire thing seems shady to me.

How
Fucking
Stupid
Can
You
Get
?

[Tanthallas]

Eccezan: HEY GUYS whats up with this shady ass PM telling a class to do what it is supposed to do. Entire thing seems shady to me.

I am impressed, really Eccezan.

Fraps has been submited to Sirken and petitioned. It is pretty obvious that Mazum runs to the ledge with those juggs...we even have more screenshots of "Mazum has been slain" on the ledge.

The reason we engaged, however, was not due to this train but due to you assholes aggroing ALL the juggs towards the end of the fraps.

Training is training, regardless of any nonsensical bullshit you feel like adding in about why FE are not cunts like TMO.

[Alarti0001]

How
Fucking
Stupid
Can
You
Get
?

I ask myself that question about you every day. Everyday I think you found a new low, you post something else even more ridiculous.

[Alarti0001]

Eccezan: HEY GUYS whats up with this shady ass PM telling a class to do what it is supposed to do. Entire thing seems shady to me.

I am impressed, really Eccezan.

Fraps has been submited to Sirken and petitioned. It is pretty obvious that Mazum runs to the ledge with those juggs...we even have more screenshots of "Mazum has been slain" on the ledge.

The reason we engaged, however, was not due to this train but due to you assholes aggroing ALL the juggs towards the end of the fraps.

Training is training, regardless of any nonsensical bullshit you feel like adding in about why FE are not cunts like TMO.

Your eyes are seeing things that aren't there. Maybe you should hop in a time machine and go investigate this matter. Who trained mazam

[Godefroi]

lol you have a picture of me as your avatar? Sexy

Need to work a bit on your style pal lol. New haircut and jacket would be nice.

let the duck go too, please.

[Alarti0001]

Need to work a bit on your style pal lol. New haircut and jacket would be nice.

let the duck go too, please.

I'm sure in 6 years he's gotten a haircut and possibly a jacket. Good morning Visc!

[Tanthallas]

Your eyes are seeing things that aren't there. Maybe you should hop in a time machine and go investigate this matter. Who trained mazam

WHO TRAINED THE PERSON WHO TRAINED THE FE RAID!?!?

Lets just take this whole causal string back to Mazum's birth.

Everyday I think you found a new low, you post something else even more ridiculous.

[Alarti0001]

WHO TRAINED THE PERSON WHO TRAINED THE FE RAID!?!?

Lets just take this whole causal string back to Mazum's birth.

Lol lets pretend something exists in-between your ears. How long does a wizard last with 4+ juggs on them?

[Nerosys]

Your eyes are seeing things that aren't there. Maybe you should hop in a time machine and go investigate this matter. Who trained mazam

I dunno you got Fraps ? Proof ? Anything ?

[Tanthallas]

Lol lets pretend something exists in-between your ears. How long does a wizard last with 4+ juggs on them?

This is classic.

[Alarti0001]

I dunno you got Fraps ? Proof ? Anything ?

Do you? You have to prove someone is guilty, not the other way around. FE's fraps demonstrates nothing.

[Relapse2]

Alarti dude, i would advise taken the day off of RnF, 30,000 RnF post in a single year is not healthy and we all should be worried of your mental health. Go get some help bro will do us ALL a favor.

[Alarti0001]

Alarti dude, i would advise taken the day off of RnF, 30,000 RnF post in a single year is not healthy and we all should be worried of your mental health. Go get some help bro will do us ALL a favor.

Make some sense. I am just conversating with people. Sometimes I have to reply to 3+ people directing messages to me.

In a face to face conversation if someone starts a discussion with you do you just ignore them so you don't bump your "speak count".

Meth has wrecked your brain. Crawl back to your trailer.

[quido]

Relapsee I was wondering - did being in a full body cast make it easier or tougher to pick up fat chicks?

[Relapse2]

Make some sense. I am just conversating with people. Sometimes I have to reply to 3+ people directing messages to me.

In a face to face conversation if someone starts a discussion with you do you just ignore them so you don't bump your "speak count".

Meth has wrecked your brain. Crawl back to your trailer.

well on a 100 yr old emulated elf everquest forum i would simply just log out and let the trolls keep at it.

[Ashburn]

500 post thread about elf sim dick waving. I can't tell who's really a retard and who's just pretending, who's trolling, who's double backwards reverse trolling. Pretty breathtaking.

[Relapse2]

why you gotta hate on fat girls Jeremy? You and them do have something in common.

[quido]

I'm not hating on fat girls! I'm hating on rednecks and black people (the two primary demographics representing those who bang fat chicks). Don't you see that it is out of love for fat chicks that I selfishly exude my disdain for you and your habits?

[quido]

You and them do have something in common.

Oh crap, you want to penetrate me too. I knew it.

[Alarti0001]

well on a 100 yr old emulated elf everquest forum i would simply just log out and let the trolls keep at it.

Yet you are here replying to me. Also, what is this elf emulated crap. We all play or have played here.

[Relapse2]

Oh crap, you want to penetrate me too. I knew it.

you had me when you wanted my packets