BDA now my clear least favorite guild

[Splorf22]

http://s4.postimage.org/cgxf8nbsr/EQ000221.png

Stalling for ~5 minutes on Verina Tomb and its not close. You guys are so much better for the server than TMO. Real White Knights you guys are.

[Tecmos Deception]

-dkp for not being out racing to a god or dragon or something, imo!

[Splorf22]

Chatting with some BDA now who are saying that stalling Verina is OK. I am finding this pretty hard to believe.

[Autotune]

Chatting with some BDA now who are saying that stalling Verina is OK. I am finding this pretty hard to believe.

lol, it's okay when you're bad.

[Tecmos Deception]

Juggling a few seafuries at 5% would quickly lead to a guide laying the smack down on someone. But stalling an epic mob that's got a week-long timer and a huge variance is allegedly ok?

:rolleyes:

[Splorf22]

lol, it's okay when you're bad.

Let me know next time you solo the fungi king Stealin.

[Niceboots]

Let me know next time you solo the fungi king Stealin.

Think he was ragging on BDA not you Splorf.

[Autotune]

Think he was ragging on BDA not you Splorf.

bingo

[kotton05]

A stall of 1 or two idols I'd give n ok to but 5 mins...:-/

[Splorf22]

Think he was ragging on BDA not you Splorf.

well fuck i was kind of in the mood for a flamewar. bring it on BDA, I got a lot of flames here ready to go . . . you cowardly cheating no-good hamsters

[Tiggles]

Splorf feel free to shoot Quickfingers or any TMO officer when Varina spawns we can mobilize and kill it for you.

[Kassel]

your SS does not work ! Can you define stalling please?

[Splorf22]

http://postimage.org/image/yrpp6048r/

posting this again. try not to suck, postimage

[Autotune]

http://s4.postimage.org/ihv45pyez/EQ000221.png


Or learn how to post properly...

[maverixdamighty]

what's that ss supposed to show other than bda killing verina and you checking in on divinity?

[Sunnyvale]

Bregan D'Aerth is a guild dedicated to experiencing EverQuest in all its forms. Not just the current standard of loot and levels, but for what made EverQuest great, its Community. We do not define ourselves by how many Dragons we have felled or what mystical items our members possess. Instead we seek to be known for the quality of our members and our commitment to making the world of Norrath a fun and exciting place to visit.

[eqmaze]

BDA is a bad guild, we knew this when Doors was outed for RMT and BDA failed to do anything about it

[Autotune]

what's that ss supposed to show other than bda killing verina and you checking in on divinity?

It shows (along with his story) that BDA got the merb down to 5% or so and then stalled so some random could come and loot.

Least what i've gathered.

[maverixdamighty]

It shows (along with his story) that BDA got the merb down to 5% or so and then stalled so some random could come and loot.

Least what i've gathered.

don't see the issue. they could have just killed and locked the corpse i guess, but not like it should take long for someone to get to neriak.

[Autotune]

It shows (along with his story) that BDA got the merb down to 5% or so and then stalled so some random could come and loot.

Least what i've gathered.

And the reason they did it (got the mob down to 5%) is so when their shady tactic pissed someone off, that person couldn't take the mob and kill it because they wouldn't be granted xp.

(even tho a smart enchanter and a wizard friend could do it with 2 well timed spells :)

[Tecmos Deception]

And the reason they did it (got the mob down to 5%) is so when their shady tactic pissed someone off, that person couldn't take the mob and kill it because they wouldn't be granted xp.

(even tho a smart enchanter and a wizard friend could do it with 2 well timed spells :)

You missed me saying in guild chat right above that SS "blur nuke! hah :("

:)

[Doors]

I never got past level 20 on p99, but I post on the forums like I know what I'm talking about even though everyone ignores anything I say.

[Splorf22]

Mav: I think it's pretty obvious what the SS shows: Gats snaring Verina at 5% while no one is attacking. Stalling raid mobs is a violation of the raid rules; the only question is whether Verina qualifies. Since Ragefire is explicitly mentioned, I would think so but who knows - that was an Amelinda ruling. Also I went up with Divinity to Sky immediately after so that's why i was 'checking up on them' as you say.

My problem with BDA is obnoxious combination of pretentiousness and incompetence while in reality they rule lawyer/screw over other players as often as they can. Aside from this I've been leapfrogged by them in Fear, so has Tizzle . . . who the fuck pulls out all the stops for planar trash?

[kotton05]

Is it 20 mins? Like rf?

[Splorf22]

Well ragefire is a triggered mob. My only reason for bringing him up is that Amelinda explicitly says the raid rules apply to ragefire, who is duoable, therefore the same ruling should apply to Verina.

I AM A YOUNG RULE LAWYER BROS

[maverixdamighty]

Mav: I think it's pretty obvious what the SS shows: Gats snaring Verina at 5% while no one is attacking. Stalling raid mobs is a violation of the raid rules; the only question is whether Verina qualifies. Since Ragefire is explicitly mentioned, I would think so but who knows - that was an Amelinda ruling. Also I went up with Divinity to Sky immediately after so that's why i was 'checking up on them' as you say.

My problem with BDA is obnoxious combination of pretentiousness and incompetence while in reality they rule lawyer/screw over other players as often as they can. Aside from this I've been leapfrogged by them in Fear, so has Tizzle . . . who the fuck pulls out all the stops for planar trash?

ragefire is a spawned mob you get 20m to engage after the turn in. i'm not familiar with verina isn't it just a spawn and kill or does it require a turn in as well then it spawns the raid mob? not defending them as they have done some crappy stuff to me personally in the past as well, but just didn't think what they did there was that bad. they should have just killed the mob and locked the corpse though.

[arsenalpow]

because we should call off our guild fear raids when a chanter is trying to solo the entrance to get another "solo artist challenge" hole in their imaginary punch card

The A-Team, doing more with less (except the majority of our force got decked out from our previous guilds and have actually accomplished nothing within the framework of our current guild)

[quido]

BDA is my least favorite guild

[Splorf22]

because we should call off our guild fear raids when a chanter is trying to solo the entrance to get another "solo artist challenge" hole in their imaginary punch card

The A-Team, doing more with less (except the majority of our force got decked out from our previous guilds and have actually accomplished nothing within the framework of our current guild)

Wow I can see why Alarti gets so irritated by you Chest. Literally everything you say is wrong. Let me count the ways:

1. I wasn't trying to solo the entrance, I was trying to solo a golem
2. The solo artist challenge isn't imaginary, it's online. By your logic EQ is imaginary.
3. I don't see why my being solo has any bearing on your decision to leapfrog. Basically you are saying 'unless you have a zerg like us, fuck off'. Good to know.
4. Our MT is Sakuragi, a gimp iksar warrior who has 4800HP and 1050AC when fully buffed. Crazy gear there.
5. We're currently killing isle 5 in sky with less than 20 people who have relatively poor gear and quite a few <60 without using Sirran. Within a month or two we'll be doing all of Sky. Which is pretty much all we can do since we don't feel like spending thousands of hours tracking.
6. I'd also like to mention we beat your guild to Ragefire (and we didn't have to stall, we just let you get FTE and wipe to the human version with 10. Then we killed him with 6.) then let your cleric MQ the pearl. Because we're nice guys.

So how exactly is the A-Team a failure?

[Tiggles]

because we should call off our guild fear raids when a chanter is trying to solo the entrance to get another "solo artist challenge" hole in their imaginary punch card

The A-Team, doing more with less (except the majority of our force got decked out from our previous guilds and have actually accomplished nothing within the framework of our current guild)

Kill Nexona yet?

Been working on him for a while now

[eqmaze]

Chest. Literally everything you say is wrong.


Quoted for Truthz

[Tiggles]

Wow I can see why Alarti gets so irritated by you Chest. Literally everything you say is wrong. Let me count the ways:

1. I wasn't trying to solo the entrance, I was trying to solo a golem
2. The solo artist challenge isn't imaginary, it's online. By your logic EQ is imaginary.
3. I don't see why my being solo has any bearing on your decision to leapfrog. Basically you are saying 'unless you have a zerg like us, fuck off'. Good to know.
4. Our MT is Sakuragi, a gimp iksar warrior who has 4800HP and 1050AC when fully buffed. Crazy gear there.
5. We're currently killing isle 5 in sky with less than 20 people who have relatively poor gear and quite a few <60 without using Sirran. Within a month or two we'll be doing all of Sky. Which is pretty much all we can do since we don't feel like spending thousands of hours tracking.
6. I'd also like to mention we beat your guild to Ragefire (and we didn't have to stall, we just let you get FTE and wipe to the human version with 10. Then we killed him with 6.) then let your cleric MQ the pearl. Because we're nice guys.

So how exactly is the A-Team a failure?


Holy shit Chest got knocked the fuck out.


I sya we take these A-Team guys to VP

[arsenalpow]

Wow I can see why Alarti gets so irritated by you Chest. Literally everything you say is wrong. Let me count the ways:

1. I wasn't trying to solo the entrance, I was trying to solo a golem
2. The solo artist challenge isn't imaginary, it's online. By your logic EQ is imaginary.
3. I don't see why my being solo has any bearing on your decision to leapfrog. Basically you are saying 'unless you have a zerg like us, fuck off'. Good to know.
4. Our MT is Sakuragi, a gimp iksar warrior who has 4800HP and 1050AC when fully buffed. Crazy gear there.
5. We're currently killing isle 5 in sky with less than 20 people who have relatively poor gear and quite a few <60 without using Sirran. Within a month or two we'll be doing all of Sky. Which is pretty much all we can do since we don't feel like spending thousands of hours tracking.
6. I'd also like to mention we beat your guild to Ragefire (and we didn't have to stall, we just let you get FTE and wipe to the human version with 10. Then we killed him with 6.) then let your cleric MQ the pearl. Because we're nice guys.

So how exactly is the A-Team a failure?

1) it's first come first serve, A-Team leap frogs people all the time for content, just ask your pal Klubba

2) i said the "punch card" was imaginary - because it is. there are no achievements unlocked when you accomplish any of the tasks you've outlined in your guide

3) i'm sorry that my raid guild raided the plane of fear, next time we'll be more cognizant of you soloing. just go ahead and let me know where you'd like to solo next so i can make sure my guild doesn't step on your toes

4) our guildleader is a paladin... +1 me

5) i also do not enjoy socking, look we're agreeing on something

6) because no one has ever rushed a ragefire turn in before, maybe we wouldn't have to rush things if people on this server could just play nice, #dreamland

[arsenalpow]

Holy shit Chest got knocked the fuck out.


I sya we take these A-Team guys to VP

EnrApTeamred ?

[Loly Taa]

Chest so mad, I love it.

I can't wait to read how Yendor spins this on your boards to make TMO the bad guy somehow, ahahaha.

[Splorf22]

1) it's first come first serve

Yes and I was there first you tool. But it's abundantly obvious that you guys only scream about playing fair when it benefits you. If it's a small guild or soloist that you can push out of the way, then fuck em. If it's a big guild competing with you 'OH GOD THEY TRAINED US, HELP HELP GMS. WE'RE NICE PEOPLE. THEY ARE MEAN'. Do you really not see the raging inconsistency here? If you want to play nice you have to do it not just when it benefits you. And in fact the A-team doesn't leap frog or KS or stall or do these tricks, because we don't suck.

[arsenalpow]

Yes and I was there first you tool. But it's abundantly obvious that you guys only scream about playing fair when it benefits you. If it's a small guild or soloist that you can push out of the way, then fuck em. If it's a big guild competing with you 'OH GOD THEY TRAINED US, HELP HELP GMS. WE'RE NICE PEOPLE. THEY ARE MEAN'. Do you really not see the raging inconsistency here? If you want to play nice you have to do it not just when it benefits you. And in fact the A-team doesn't leap frog or KS or stall or do these tricks, because we don't suck.

you know goddamn well what i mean when i say first come first serve, go tag and pull your mob and kill it, we aren't going to train you out of the zone first


quit buying into the TMO spin, every single guild that has competed with TMO for content has been trained by TMO at every possible encounter - BDA, VD, and FE have all experienced it. It's not some magical coincidence. If you were competing with TMO for content they wanted you'd get the exact same treatment that BDA and FE receives

[Handull]

. . . who the fuck pulls out all the stops for planar trash?

Clearly BDA does, and so did TMO (to AoE the zone) when I was soloing in there trying to get my vermi tunic.... but back on point, more BDA hate.

Side question, who's epic were you trying to get Lor? Tecmos?

[Susano]

It's like dejavu, I remember Loraen crying about his epic oh so long ago, now he's crying for someone else's epic.

I think you may need this man.

http://www-cdn.terrywhitechemists.com.au/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/J/o/Johnsons-Baby-Shampoo-and-Conditioner-200ml_5.jpg

[Sunnyvale]

5) i also do not enjoy socking, look we're agreeing on something

That's why you force your "casual" raid guild to initiate MANDATORY Trakanon poopsocks with 8 hours left in the window, right?

6) because no one has ever rushed a ragefire turn in before, maybe we wouldn't have to rush things if people on this server could just play nice, #dreamland

In a thread complaining about your guild not playing nice, you complain about guilds not playing nice. You didn't even try to deny that your guild members were being scumbags. Instead, you trash talk and try to discredit the people calling out your guild.

Stay classy, BDA.

[radditsu]

you know goddamn well what i mean when i say first come first serve, go tag and pull your mob and kill it, we aren't going to train you out of the zone first


quit buying into the TMO spin, every single guild that has competed with TMO for content has been trained by TMO at every possible encounter - BDA, VD, and FE have all experienced it. It's not some magical coincidence. If you were competing with TMO for content they wanted you'd get the exact same treatment that BDA and FE receives

But FE gives no shits anymore. "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." and all that jazz.

[Alarti0001]

you know goddamn well what i mean when i say first come first serve, go tag and pull your mob and kill it, we aren't going to train you out of the zone first


quit buying into the TMO spin, every single guild that has competed with TMO for content has been trained by TMO at every possible encounter - BDA, VD, and FE have all experienced it. It's not some magical coincidence. If you were competing with TMO for content they wanted you'd get the exact same treatment that BDA and FE receives

BDA constantly spinning and pissing off every other guild on the server.

[Splorf22]

you know goddamn well what i mean when i say first come first serve, go tag and pull your mob and kill it, we aren't going to train you out of the zone first


quit buying into the TMO spin, every single guild that has competed with TMO for content has been trained by TMO at every possible encounter - BDA, VD, and FE have all experienced it. It's not some magical coincidence. If you were competing with TMO for content they wanted you'd get the exact same treatment that BDA and FE receives

I honestly don't think you understand what I am saying. I would rather flame you but I am feeling generous today.

First let me just say your guild is great at training themselves. When we raced you to ragefire I saw your guild train themselves 2x with BNB (while blaming everyone else in the zone). Then our monk trained out all the FGs so we could run in; you guys took advantage and headed in to and engaged. Somehow it did not occur to you that Rokyll would come back and wipe your raid (which is embarrassing by itself tbh). So based on my experience at least 50% of the times you claim TMO was fucking with you you probably did it to yourselves.

But, and here is my real point, do you not see the raging inconsistency here? I'm sure TMO has done some not-to-nice things to your guild. You then dump the shit down hill on the smaller guild. That is what is pissing me off. If you want to complain about TMO then fine. But when you complain about TMO playing hardball with you and then do the same thing to us, that makes you a hypocrite.

[Splorf22]

It's like dejavu, I remember Loraen crying about his epic oh so long ago, now he's crying for someone else's epic.

Sussy you should hang out with Chest, since you are also literally wrong about everything. You can keep trying to paint me as a loot whore, and yet what exactly did I get in VD? Epic+Sky stuff. I had 200 dkp, attended more raids than any other enchanter in Jan/Feb and the same gear as Zyryn and Estebahn with half that. I had the most dkp of anyone who didn't have a dragon/god item. And that wasn't even why I left; like 3 days before I passed on a BCG for Senim. Do you remember that?

[Metallikus]

#1, this whole thread is about a raid mob being killed legit. The BDA team killed the raid mob down to 5%. I guess they were waiting for a buddy to get to neriak so he could get the item before it rotted. WHo cares that they didnt do the last 5% real quick like u wanted them to. The mob was engaged and killed, no one got trained, no one sniped fte, they simply didnt want the item to rot before their buddy got there. Maybe they didnt know if it was a 7min or 30 min corpse. Somehow, loraen cares so much that the mob wasnt killed a few minutes faster, he comes here to cry about it and compare BDA to TMO somehow about ruthless shitty behavior? Get fuckin real.

[arsenalpow]

I honestly don't think you understand what I am saying. I would rather flame you but I am feeling generous today.

First let me just say your guild is great at training themselves. When we raced you to ragefire I saw your guild train themselves 2x with BNB (while blaming everyone else in the zone). Then our monk trained out all the FGs so we could run in; you guys took advantage and headed in to and engaged. Somehow it did not occur to you that Rokyll would come back and wipe your raid (which is embarrassing by itself tbh). So based on my experience at least 50% of the times you claim TMO was fucking with you you probably did it to yourselves.

But, and here is my real point, do you not see the raging inconsistency here? I'm sure TMO has done some not-to-nice things to your guild. You then dump the shit down hill on the smaller guild. That is what is pissing me off. If you want to complain about TMO then fine. But when you complain about TMO playing hardball with you and then do the same thing to us, that makes you a hypocrite.

do you honestly think we're "dumping" onto A-Team??? We have plenty of cordial relations with other guilds not named TMO in fact Svenn was former BDA and he's good people, but you have plenty of members that have leap frogged our guildies in numerous situations (Klubba at every solo camp known to man for example). In fact in fear that day I wasn't thinking "hey guys let's stick it to A-Team" and i'm sure the same thought wasn't in play at Verina (i wasn't there) but for some reason you're taking this shit personally.

i'm going to bed, have fun shitting it up in RnF guys

[Susano]

Sussy you should hang out with Chest, since you are also literally wrong about everything. You can keep trying to paint me as a loot whore, and yet what exactly did I get in VD? Epic+Sky stuff. I had 200 dkp, attended more raids than any other enchanter in Jan/Feb and the same gear as Zyryn and Estebahn with half that. I had the most dkp of anyone who didn't have a dragon/god item. And that wasn't even why I left; like 3 days before I passed on a BCG for Senim. Do you remember that?

Do you deny crying like a little bitch about your epic that one night?

[Sadad]

If you had communicated in any way that you just wanted a golem in fear, I have to think that we absolutely would have let you take a golem. Did you intimate this in any way to the raid leaders present? Because I was there and I assumed that you were just attempting a solo break. It is unreasonable to expect us to call off our fear raid while you do your masturbatory bullshit. But if it was just one golem, you probably should have made that clear. I don't think you did, but feel free to correct me.

As far as Verina is concerned, clearly you are just pissed that you lost a mob. That our enchanter had a connection issue with his shitty French internet is really immaterial to you having lost the mob.

[SyanideGas]

Man, Loraen is starting to sound a lot like Alawen. Hes feeling so generous yet he is feeling the need to whine about a Verina kill because he didnt get what he wanted. So cool bro.

[Autotune]

thread so great

[Autotune]

thread so great

http://www.psdgraphics.com/file/golden-stars-on-black.jpg

just fucking take them.

[Splorf22]

If you had communicated in any way that you just wanted a golem in fear, I have to think that we absolutely would have let you take a golem. Did you intimate this in any way to the raid leaders present? Because I was there and I assumed that you were just attempting a solo break. It is unreasonable to expect us to call off our fear raid while you do your masturbatory bullshit. But if it was just one golem, you probably should have made that clear. I don't think you did, but feel free to correct me.

As far as Verina is concerned, clearly you are just pissed that you lost a mob. That our enchanter had a connection issue with his shitty French internet is really immaterial to you having lost the mob.

Sadad, I actually did show up and say hi, and one of your necros told me to fuck off.

Sussy, no tears were shed that day. But I did realize that guild leadership (i.e. Anthrax etc) thought I was less valuable to the guild than an app. So yeah that's probably what started my leaving.

Skarry, let me explain something to you. I am saying 'your guild is behaving like douchebags and I am tired of it'. You are then saying 'haha u mad bro'. This is not a comeback. This is just pathetic.

I'm not sure I can handle this rnf zerg.

[August]

Sadad, I actually did show up and say hi, and one of your necros told me to fuck off.

Sussy, no tears were shed that day. But I did realize that guild leadership (i.e. Anthrax etc) thought I was less valuable to the guild than an app. So yeah that's probably what started my leaving.

Skarry, let me explain something to you. I am saying 'your guild is behaving like douchebags and I am tired of it'. You are then saying 'haha u mad bro'. This is not a comeback. This is just pathetic.

I'm not sure I can handle this rnf zerg.

These people literally come here to post just to piss you off. Their only motive is to cause you misery. No one's mind ever gets changed here. It is a giant circlejerk of low-lifes who experience glee at pissing people off...' u mad bro?' - pathetic.

Contemplate what that must mean about their life, and then take a deep breath. I know it makes me feel better.

It make

[Autotune]

OP has a point though.

He comes here and calls the "good guy" guild a sack of doucebags.

"good guy" guild comes here and spouts hate at him, doesn't deny the charges, and instead calls him a TMO ass sniffer because he said something bad about them.

Pretty fucking funny imo.

[Susano]

Sussy, no tears were shed that day. But I did realize that guild leadership (i.e. Anthrax etc) thought I was less valuable to the guild than an app. So yeah that's probably what started my leaving.



Good thing you stuck it out till you got that epic though. Must have been difficult feeling so unwanted while waiting on them pixels.

[Metallikus]

OP has a point though.

He comes here and calls the "good guy" guild a sack of doucebags.

"good guy" guild comes here and spouts hate at him, doesn't deny the charges, and instead calls him a TMO ass sniffer because he said something bad about them.

Pretty fucking funny imo.

What charges?
He has a screenshot of BDA killing Verina Tomb. Nothing more....
The mob went from 100% to 5% in what the fuck ever time frame, but when it got to 5%, they refrained from finishing it because the enchanter to loot went LINK DEAD and they waited for him to come back. WHAT IN THE FUCK DO YOU WANT US TO DEFEND HERE????

[Autotune]

What charges?
He has a screenshot of BDA killing Verina Tomb. Nothing more....
The mob went from 100% to 5% in what the fuck ever time frame, but when it got to 5%, they refrained from finishing it because the enchanter to loot went LINK DEAD and they waited for him to come back. WHAT IN THE FUCK DO YOU WANT US TO DEFEND HERE????

I don't want you to defend anything, I want you to keep doing what your guild is doing here in this thread.

I think that is quite obvious.

[Tiggles]

OP has a point though.

He comes here and calls the "good guy" guild a sack of doucebags.

"good guy" guild comes here and spouts hate at him, doesn't deny the charges, and instead calls him a TMO ass sniffer because he said something bad about them.

Pretty fucking funny imo.

[Splorf22]

OP has a point though.

He comes here and calls the "good guy" guild a sack of doucebags.

"good guy" guild comes here and spouts hate at him, doesn't deny the charges, and instead calls him a TMO ass sniffer because he said something bad about them.

Pretty fucking funny imo.

I hate to quote stealin, but there you have it. Anyway August, going to take your advice and head out. I think I've said what I wanted to say already. Troll on gentlefriends.

PS: Chest/Sadad, don't you regret the day you took in VD? I think the person who posted earlier had it right: when you stare into the void the void stares into you. I think unconsciously you guys started putting pixels first and having fun second.

[Splorf22]

I will admit I have not heard about this mysterious LD enchanter. If he was there at the start of the fight then I'll take back what I said about this particular encounter (I'm still mad at you guys over Fear). OTOH, if he was there, why didn't I hear about him? And if he was there, it's interesting that you guys would rather flame me than point out facts.

[Sadad]

PS: Chest/Sadad, don't you regret the day you took in VD?

Newp.

Back to the super-important matter at hand - your interaction with BDA was saying something in /say about you being in fear first - some random necro tells you to fuck off - you leave and stew for a month. The communication wasn't great on either side, but I can understand why you would leave upset. If you had let us know what you were after, we would have let you have a shot. I bet we still would, even after you made this bullshit crybaby thread about guildies looking out for a linkdead friend.

[contemptor]

I will admit I have not heard about this mysterious LD enchanter. If he was there at the start of the fight then I'll take back what I said about this particular encounter (I'm still mad at you guys over Fear). OTOH, if he was there, why didn't I hear about him? And if he was there, it's interesting that you guys would rather flame me than point out facts.
I know zero details on the Verina encounter besides this thread. Regardless, I don't get your hate over fear. I know what you do with the solo challenges, but everyone doesn't. You didn't ask to speak to someone in charge of the fear raid to tell them you were after a golem, but got mad because a guild wanted to raid fear while you were soloing? I'm pretty confident that if you had mentioned you were after a golem, one would have been left for you.

[Nlaar]

Lor - you have posted 20+ times in this thread but you're telling me that you exchanged minimal dialogue with some non raid leader "necro" and instead of speaking with someone else (rl) you decided to leave with a chip on your shoulder? I have always respected your abilities and was genuinely sad to see you leave VD but this thread and the misinformation / anger over what seems to be a lot of misunderstandings saddens me.

[Splorf22]

Sadad, you guys keep projecting this hugely raging emotional state on me. No one who is raging calls his enemies hamsters like I did on the first page of this thread. I am not mad; I am simply calling you guys out on the vast number of unpleasant interactions I have had with your guild over the past month in the hope that you will stop them. This thread has simply proven to be another as every one in your guild has come in flaming with the exception of Metallikus. In fact I smell a guild gag order to keep your trolls from embarrassing themselves further.

And yes, after that fear raid I made a mental note to speak to a raid leader next time. But the point remains: I was in fear first, you guys showed up to ninja it, I pointed out that I was there, one of your guildmembers told me to fuck off, and I walked off in disgust. It's not a good showing for BDA no matter how you try spin it. And speaking of raid leaders, why weren't you guys paying attention to chat?

As for the current super-important matter at hand. I think stalling on these racing type mobs is a fairly douche move. If your enchanter happened to go LD in the middle of the fight, well tough cookies. That's the cutthroat competition on an EQ server. Except that I don't play by those rules and I'd be willing to give you guys a pass on that (like how we mqed your cleric our ragefire heart rather than selling it) but unfortunately I have just talked to two of my guildmates who were on the scene more/beforehand and neither of them saw Froggie. OTOH they weren't there the whole time either. So I think I reacted fairly based on the evidence I had; and I still don't know that you guys aren't making the whole thing up to save face.

[bouncerr 2.0]

Sadad, you guys keep projecting this hugely raging emotional state on me. No one who is raging calls his enemies hamsters like I did on the first page of this thread. I am not mad; I am simply calling you guys out on the vast number of unpleasant interactions I have had with your guild over the past month in the hope that you will stop them. This thread has simply proven to be another as every one in your guild has come in flaming with the exception of Metallikus. In fact I smell a guild gag order to keep your trolls from embarrassing themselves further.

And yes, after that fear raid I made a mental note to speak to a raid leader next time. But the point remains: I was in fear first, you guys showed up to ninja it, I pointed out that I was there, one of your guildmembers told me to fuck off, and I walked off in disgust. It's not a good showing for BDA no matter how you try spin it. And speaking of raid leaders, why weren't you guys paying attention to chat?

As for the current super-important matter at hand. I think stalling on these racing type mobs is a fairly douche move. If your enchanter happened to go LD in the middle of the fight, well tough cookies. That's the cutthroat competition on an EQ server. Except that I don't play by those rules and I'd be willing to give you guys a pass on that (like how we mqed your cleric our ragefire heart rather than selling it) but unfortunately I have just talked to two of my guildmates who were on the scene more/beforehand and neither of them saw Froggie. OTOH they weren't there the whole time either. So I think I reacted fairly based on the evidence I had; and I still don't know that you guys aren't making the whole thing up to save face.

Brush your shoulders off, dont let them get to you. This is nothin new for BDA. Move on man.

[Lexical]

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[Chedduh]

But the point remains: I was in fear first, you guys showed up to ninja it

This thread is what it is, but dude you honestly made this statement? How can anyone look at you seriously after saying a guild going into a raid/guild oriented zone ninja'd it from a single person, really? You might be able to claim a gear/xp camp solo, but not an entire plane that's just crazy talk.

[Metallikus]

Sadad, you guys keep projecting this hugely raging emotional state on me. No one who is raging calls his enemies hamsters like I did on the first page of this thread. I am not mad; I am simply calling you guys out on the vast number of unpleasant interactions I have had with your guild over the past month in the hope that you will stop them. This thread has simply proven to be another as every one in your guild has come in flaming with the exception of Metallikus. In fact I smell a guild gag order to keep your trolls from embarrassing themselves further.

And yes, after that fear raid I made a mental note to speak to a raid leader next time. But the point remains: I was in fear first, you guys showed up to ninja it, I pointed out that I was there, one of your guildmembers told me to fuck off, and I walked off in disgust. It's not a good showing for BDA no matter how you try spin it. And speaking of raid leaders, why weren't you guys paying attention to chat?

As for the current super-important matter at hand. I think stalling on these racing type mobs is a fairly douche move. If your enchanter happened to go LD in the middle of the fight, well tough cookies. That's the cutthroat competition on an EQ server. Except that I don't play by those rules and I'd be willing to give you guys a pass on that (like how we mqed your cleric our ragefire heart rather than selling it) but unfortunately I have just talked to two of my guildmates who were on the scene more/beforehand and neither of them saw Froggie. OTOH they weren't there the whole time either. So I think I reacted fairly based on the evidence I had; and I still don't know that you guys aren't making the whole thing up to save face.


In the same post you call a guild out for being dicks for entering a raid zone when 1 person was soloing it, and then turn around and pull the "cutthroat competition on an EQ server" card for stalling out the death timer of a single mob so a linkdead player could loot it. You can't have it both ways. You can't call out much respect for tmo's end game raiding propaganda and in the same breathe condem bda for abiding by server rules. We are so sorry that your solo mission was interupted by a raid force clearing the zone for armor drops.

No one has even brought up the fact that you raged out and interfered in the encounter by nuking verina while it was at 5% in an attempt to get the item to rot before our guild member arrived. What excuse for this clearly against the rules and also douche behavior do you have for yourself?

[Loly Taa]

In the same post you call a guild out for being dicks for entering a raid zone when 1 person was soloing it, and then turn around and pull the "cutthroat competition on an EQ server" card for stalling out the death timer of a single mob so a linkdead player could loot it. You can't have it both ways. You can't call out much respect for tmo's end game raiding propaganda and in the same breathe condem bda for abiding by server rules. We are so sorry that your solo mission was interupted by a raid force clearing the zone for armor drops.

No one has even brought up the fact that you raged out and interfered in the encounter by nuking verina while it was at 5% in an attempt to get the item to rot before our guild member arrived. What excuse for this clearly against the rules and also douche behavior do you have for yourself?

I think your posts would make more sense if your avatar was Mike Meyers from Waynes World.

[Sadad]

Brush your shoulders off, dont let them get to you. This is nothin new for BDA. Move on man.

threatened to kill himself when kicked out of bda for mq use

[Splorf22]

In the same post you call a guild out for being dicks for entering a raid zone when 1 person was soloing it, and then turn around and pull the "cutthroat competition on an EQ server" card for stalling out the death timer of a single mob so a linkdead player could loot it. You can't have it both ways. You can't call out much respect for tmo's end game raiding propaganda and in the same breathe condem bda for abiding by server rules. We are so sorry that your solo mission was interupted by a raid force clearing the zone for armor drops.

No one has even brought up the fact that you raged out and interfered in the encounter by nuking verina while it was at 5% in an attempt to get the item to rot before our guild member arrived. What excuse for this clearly against the rules and also douche behavior do you have for yourself?

Once again you guys keep waving the 'u mad bro' flag and once again its not working. I just stopped your guild from stalling on a raid mob. You should be thanking me. TBH if I had just waited 10 more minutes it'd be way more obvious in the logs what was going on.

And my point about the fearplane incident was that when someone is there before you, and you show up to take things and tell that person to fuck off, that is rude. I don't see how you can possibly try to spin this.

[Loly Taa]

threatened to kill himself when kicked out of bda for mq use

Oh. wow... We now have BDa Raidleaders talking shit in RnF?

My, how things have changed.

I'm sorry you didn't get any targets this repop but... that's honestly not my fault.

[Nlaar]

Once again you guys keep waving the 'u mad bro' flag and once again its not working. I just stopped your guild from stalling on a raid mob. You should be thanking me. TBH if I had just waited 10 more minutes it'd be way more obvious in the logs what was going on.

And my point about the fearplane incident was that when someone is there before you, and you show up to take things and tell that person to fuck off, that is rude. I don't see how you can possibly try to spin this.

I don't see a "u mad bro" flag, rather Metal making a few points and then asking a question about your behavior. This whole thread and your answer of "You should be thanking me. TBH..." portrays you as an exasperated, self entitled juvenile. Just stop already.

Was the BDA necro's comment to you in fearplane rude? Sure was - again talk with an officer / RL before leaving the zone.

[Tiggles]

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[Splorf22]

This whole thread and your answer of "You should be thanking me. TBH..." portrays you as an exasperated, self entitled juvenile. Just stop already.

Somehow I don't think it does. I am getting more and more tells actually from people who are starting to dislike BDA. What I am trying to tell you guys is over the last year you have started behaving in a more and more ruthless manner. Enchanter soloing in fear? Fuck him. Mage/Cleric duoing in fear? Fuck them. Our enchanter went LD before the fight? No problem, we'll just stall a raid mob. Post in RnF calling us out on this? Reply with 'u mad bro'. These are not the actions of the supposed 'best casual guild on the server', and pointing this out does not make me an exasperated, self-entitled juvenile.

Also I just checked the post for something that was irritating me last night and:

Because I was there and I assumed that you were just attempting a solo break.

So he knew I was there and just ignored me. Now from this quote it is not clear if he realized I had already pretty much broken the plane. But if you are going to kick the enchanter who was tired after struggling with fear for three hours and getting insulted by your guild for not talking to Sadad, you should be kicking him three times harder for not talking to me. And it's hard to believe no one in your guild knew I had been there before hand, at least before I take the A-team anywhere I /who like a madman and I was flaunting my tag in fear for like 3 hours beforehand. Someone in your 60-man guild should have known I was there and had the chance to mention this; no one did.

Have I made mistakes here? Absolutely. If I could go back I would send a tell to Sadad. If I could go back I would have just sat there while you guys stalled Verina so that your kill time was 20 minutes and the GMs would be more likely to do something. I don't claim to be perfect.

The A-Team is a peace and harmony guild. We want to get along with everyone. Our whole goal is to avoid the mess of the raid scene mostly. But other guilds have to make the effort to get along with us too.

[Metallikus]

Somehow I don't think it does. I am getting more and more tells actually from people who are starting to dislike BDA. What I am trying to tell you guys is over the last year you have started behaving in a more and more ruthless manner. Enchanter soloing in fear? Fuck him. Mage/Cleric duoing in fear? Fuck them. Our enchanter went LD before the fight? No problem, we'll just stall a raid mob. Post in RnF calling us out on this? Reply with 'u mad bro'. These are not the actions of the supposed 'best casual guild on the server', and pointing this out does not make me an exasperated, self-entitled juvenile.

Also I just checked the post for something that was irritating me last night and:



So he knew I was there and just ignored me. Now from this quote it is not clear if he realized I had already pretty much broken the plane. But if you are going to kick the enchanter who was tired after struggling with fear for three hours and getting insulted by your guild for not talking to Sadad, you should be kicking him three times harder for not talking to me. And it's hard to believe no one in your guild knew I had been there before hand, at least before I take the A-team anywhere I /who like a madman and I was flaunting my tag in fear for like 3 hours beforehand. Someone in your 60-man guild should have known I was there and had the chance to mention this; no one did.

Have I made mistakes here? Absolutely. If I could go back I would send a tell to Sadad. If I could go back I would have just sat there while you guys stalled Verina so that your kill time was 20 minutes and the GMs would be more likely to do something. I don't claim to be perfect.

The A-Team is a peace and harmony guild. We want to get along with everyone. Our whole goal is to avoid the mess of the raid scene mostly. But other guilds have to make the effort to get along with us too.

You were trying to break and solo fear for 3 hours....then big bad BDA steam rolled you? What did they do exactly? Did they steal your mobs? Did they train you? What exactly is your complaint? This server does not have any rules pertaining to what you want - which is apparently an uncontested infinite amount of time in a plane. Tell me I'm wrong here. What exactly are your expectations? Do you want a calendar system so you can reserve the planes for a day or two without anyone else entering the zone? If all that happened, was, you were trying to break fear for 3 hours, then another guild came in and broke it for you. What is the actual complaint?

[Splorf22]

You were trying to break and solo fear for 3 hours....then big bad BDA steam rolled you? What did they do exactly? Did they steal your mobs? Did they train you? What exactly is your complaint? This server does not have any rules pertaining to what you want - which is apparently an uncontested infinite amount of time in a plane. Tell me I'm wrong here. What exactly are your expectations? Do you want a calendar system so you can reserve the planes for a day or two without anyone else entering the zone? If all that happened, was, you were trying to break fear for 3 hours, then another guild came in and broke it for you. What is the actual complaint?

I don't think you understand what I am saying here, so let me make it as simple as possible. I am not saying BDA jumping me in fear was against server rules. I am saying it was not a nice thing to do. When enough of these things build up, and they are, you start to lose your qualifications to call yourselves 'the best casual guild on the server'.

[OMGWTF420]

a whole guild is supposed to care if one fucker is in a raid zone trying to solo a [B]raid target[/B gtfo of here with that shit.

also, if BDA got fte on verina, why the fuck do you care how long it takes them to kill it, unless they were going to wipe(which wasn't likely) you still wouldnt have gotten the kill so why the fuck are you crying?

[sanforce]

My level 12 was the only one in Oasis the other morning. I had been there for a while. A group zoned in and started killing my mobs! I know I couldn't take them all, but I zoned in first and had claimed ALL of them.

They didn't even send me a tell asking what I wanted! (everything of course & for them to leave MY zone) They just started killing crocs and orcs, like their full group had some right to the mobs. The nerve of some people!

(what's the difference?)

[Furme]

Somehow I don't think it does. I am getting more and more tells actually from people who are starting to dislike BDA. What I am trying to tell you guys is over the last year you have started behaving in a more and more ruthless manner. Enchanter soloing in fear? Fuck him. Mage/Cleric duoing in fear? Fuck them. Our enchanter went LD before the fight? No problem, we'll just stall a raid mob. Post in RnF calling us out on this? Reply with 'u mad bro'. These are not the actions of the supposed 'best casual guild on the server', and pointing this out does not make me an exasperated, self-entitled juvenile.

Also I just checked the post for something that was irritating me last night and:



So he knew I was there and just ignored me. Now from this quote it is not clear if he realized I had already pretty much broken the plane. But if you are going to kick the enchanter who was tired after struggling with fear for three hours and getting insulted by your guild for not talking to Sadad, you should be kicking him three times harder for not talking to me. And it's hard to believe no one in your guild knew I had been there before hand, at least before I take the A-team anywhere I /who like a madman and I was flaunting my tag in fear for like 3 hours beforehand. Someone in your 60-man guild should have known I was there and had the chance to mention this; no one did.

Have I made mistakes here? Absolutely. If I could go back I would send a tell to Sadad. If I could go back I would have just sat there while you guys stalled Verina so that your kill time was 20 minutes and the GMs would be more likely to do something. I don't claim to be perfect.

The A-Team is a peace and harmony guild. We want to get along with everyone. Our whole goal is to avoid the mess of the raid scene mostly. But other guilds have to make the effort to get along with us too.

http://i.imgur.com/sj5OVEt.png

[Splorf22]

Sanluen your analogy is so bad I don't even feel the need to reply to it. And Tarathiel, Golems are only raid targets if you suck.

Look if you guys had actually SAID something to me our conversation would have gone something like this:

Loraen: I'm claiming this zone
Sadad: WTF
Loraen: been here 3 hours breaking
Sadad: why?
Loraen: trying to break fear and kill a golem for the solo artist challenge
Sadad: OK, we are here to poopsock Draco
Loraen: how about you kill to the north/West first. If I get any drops I'll let you know

Instead it went like

Loraen: I'm claiming this zone
Sadad to guild chat: hahahah fuck this enchanter
Emboldened necro peon: you suck loraen

Anyway I got dragged back to this thread somehow. It just boggles my mind that you guys are happy with your behavior in this case.

[xarzzardorn]

a whole guild is supposed to care if one fucker is in a raid zone trying to solo a [B]raid target[/B gtfo of here with that shit.

also, if BDA got fte on verina, why the fuck do you care how long it takes them to kill it, unless they were going to wipe(which wasn't likely) you still wouldnt have gotten the kill so why the fuck are you crying?

Kiting a mob around to stall isn't "FTE", it's raid interference. Aren't you supposed to be banned?

[sanforce]

I'm not defending bda, but this thread is rediculouse. Their ench went ld, so they stalled for a few. Loraen was butt hurt and nuked their low mob. Isnt that interference also? If BDA was in the wrong, petition. Instead, you engaged their mob (real interference IMO) and cry when 60+ enter a raid zone that a single person is claiming.

Like I said, I'm not in BDA and am not defending them. But their Necro had it right, fuck off Loraen.

[Kassel]

Loraen: I'm claiming this zone


Found your problem.

[Taffan]

Let's just make one guild, with everyone in it. Then we all win!

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[Taffan]

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[Taffan]

The Divine Mystical Entry of Europe's D'Aerth Circle Victory

can't use < 's ? Weird.

[Metallikus]

Kiting a mob around to stall isn't "FTE", it's raid interference. Aren't you supposed to be banned?

that is the point. the mob was not being kited. the mob was pulled and killed. there was no kite, there was no stall-kite, there was no stall tanking (which is complete legit), the mob was killed from 100% down to 5% at which point, the ranger turned off attack and snared the mob (completely legit- the raid mob was running away - who's fucking business is it how fast that last 5% gets killed), then LORAEN nuked it while it was at 5% in an attempt to get the item to rot before our enchanter got back from link dead. Loraen interfered with a raid encounter. Loraen should have been petitioned. Loraen is the cocksucker here. Loraen came here to cry. Loraen doesn't know what the rules are. Loraen doesnt know how to conduct himself in honorable fashion. Loraen is the one who broke the rules by taking action that interfered with another raid force's target.

[OMGWTF420]

Kiting a mob around to stall isn't "FTE", it's raid interference. Aren't you supposed to be banned?

in order to be interfering with a raid there has to be another one present and competing for the target. one guy waiting for a guild to wipe because he showed up late and then crying later because they took longer to kill the mob than he deemed necessary is hardly considered a raid. aren't you supposed to be spamming xp zones and dying repeatedly to your own trains or something?

[Alarti0001]

that is the point. the mob was not being kited. the mob was pulled and killed. there was no kite, there was no stall-kite, there was no stall tanking (which is complete legit), the mob was killed from 100% down to 5% at which point, the ranger turned off attack and snared the mob (completely legit- the raid mob was running away - who's fucking business is it how fast that last 5% gets killed), then LORAEN nuked it while it was at 5% in an attempt to get the item to rot before our enchanter got back from link dead. Loraen interfered with a raid encounter. Loraen should have been petitioned. Loraen is the cocksucker here. Loraen came here to cry. Loraen doesn't know what the rules are. Loraen doesnt know how to conduct himself in honorable fashion. Loraen is the one who broke the rules by taking action that interfered with another raid force's target.

Its highly amusing for metallikus to be commenting about who does or doesn't know what rules are.

[Metallikus]

Its highly amusing for metallikus to be commenting about who does or doesn't know what rules are.

i feel like i have a firm grasp on what the rules are seeing how you have to walk a fine line around them to have a chance on the raid scene. tmo taught me that.

[Alarti0001]

i feel like i have a firm grasp on what the rules are seeing how you have to walk a fine line around them to have a chance on the raid scene. tmo taught me that.

I feel you don't even have a firm grasp on reality let alone raid rules.

[Relapse2]

I feel you don't even have a firm grasp on reality let alone raid rules.

says the dude that has probably 50 thousand posts in RnF over the course of a year

[Alarti0001]

says the dude that has probably 50 thousand posts in RnF over the course of a year

Says the guy who exists only for meth and griefing others' games.

Count my posts over the course of the year.

[Relapse2]

Count my posts over the course of the year.

500 since 01-30-2013

[Taresh]

RELAPSE

is heallun still raiding on wowemu?

[Daldolma]

That's not stalling a raid mob by the server definitions or by any reasonable expectation. They weren't kiting it or FD flopping it to preserve FTE with no ability to kill. They defeated the encounter -- they were waiting to kill in order to preserve loot timers, which is of no concern to anyone but them. There's nothing wrong with that on any level. And in fact, if they knew a little bit more about Verina, they wouldn't have even needed to do it. It's a 30-minute corpse. They could've just finished her and locked the corpse.

In fact, they could've just finished her and let the loot rot and you still wouldn't have had a right to it. It was their mob. They had secured the kill. There were two possible scenarios: 1) they hold the loot timer for their enchanter, or 2) they allow the loot to rot. Neither results in your guild getting the mob or the loot. This is just a strange complaint and it really does come off as butthurt.

Fuck BDA anyway, but this isn't a good reason to be mad at them.

[Kassel]

Count my posts over the course of the year.


wow 500 posts since Jan 30 2013. 35 a day.The search caps out at 500. If we use that as a starting point one could say you have 13,000 posts in a year. obviously some post periods would be heavier that others.

Account made in Oct 2009, 3.3 year of posting. I doubt you hit 13k posts year in the early years but I would say there is some serious potential that you have hit 30,000 posts on this forum.

Its not good, its not bad its just some serious discussion about elf simulators (don't get me wrong i love elf simulators)

[Relapse2]

RELAPSE

is heallun still raiding on wowemu?

he is busy with work and some other game atm

[Byrjun]

Wow I can see why Alarti gets so irritated by you Chest. Literally everything you say is wrong. Let me count the ways:

1. I wasn't trying to solo the entrance, I was trying to solo a golem
2. The solo artist challenge isn't imaginary, it's online. By your logic EQ is imaginary.
3. I don't see why my being solo has any bearing on your decision to leapfrog. Basically you are saying 'unless you have a zerg like us, fuck off'. Good to know.
4. Our MT is Sakuragi, a gimp iksar warrior who has 4800HP and 1050AC when fully buffed. Crazy gear there.
5. We're currently killing isle 5 in sky with less than 20 people who have relatively poor gear and quite a few <60 without using Sirran. Within a month or two we'll be doing all of Sky. Which is pretty much all we can do since we don't feel like spending thousands of hours tracking.
6. I'd also like to mention we beat your guild to Ragefire (and we didn't have to stall, we just let you get FTE and wipe to the human version with 10. Then we killed him with 6.) then let your cleric MQ the pearl. Because we're nice guys.

So how exactly is the A-Team a failure?

http://img.gamefaqs.net/screens/e/0/c/gfs_28423_2_15.jpg

[Relapse2]

I feel you don't even have a firm grasp on reality

wow 500 posts since Jan 30 2013. 35 a day.The search caps out at 500. If we use that as a starting point one could say you have 13,000 posts in a year. obviously some post periods would be heavier that others.

Account made in Oct 2009, 3.3 year of posting. I doubt you hit 13k posts year in the early years but I would say there is some serious potential that you have hit 30,000 posts on this forum.

Its not good, its not bad its just some serious discussion about elf simulators (don't get me wrong i love elf simulators)

[Alarti0001]

wow 500 posts since Jan 30 2013. 35 a day.The search caps out at 500. If we use that as a starting point one could say you have 13,000 posts in a year. obviously some post periods would be heavier that others.

Account made in Oct 2009, 3.3 year of posting. I doubt you hit 13k posts year in the early years but I would say there is some serious potential that you have hit 30,000 posts on this forum.

Its not good, its not bad its just some serious discussion about elf simulators (don't get me wrong i love elf simulators)

But to use that as a starting point would be asinine. Competition picked up in January. I wasnt even play from Nov to Jan.

This is why people shouldnt use statistics if they don't know how.

[Hurley]

Heallun doesn't work

[Relapse2]

Heallun doesn't work

ha well that was his excuse

[Daldolma]

Alarti confirmed 35 posts a day, immersion uncontrollable

[Taresh]

Heallun doesn't work

he's been cryin to me that he's like always at work now.

just didnt know if he already gave up wowemu

[Kassel]

But to use that as a starting point would be asinine. Competition picked up in January. I wasnt even play from Nov to Jan.

This is why people shouldnt use statistics if they don't know how.

Hey i am not saying your bad or anything, just having fun with math. Its not like i said you had 42,900 posts which would have been straight 13k x 3.3. We have little info to work with here so i require some slack! You must also conceide that some of the fun in 2011 could have easily pushed you above the 35post a day average from the last 2 weeks. I have given you hefty discount for your breaks and slow time !

As i said there is some serious potential that you have hit 30,000 posts on this forum. Don't be so defensive.

I think big Ro should step in and give us the hard numbers.

[Metallikus]

I am a bit curious if this is some sort of stunt to remain in the good graces of TMO so you can leech more VP loot and MQ's though, being you flaunt the A-team being so silent/friendly this approach proves otherwise

nearly every anti-bda post from a player not in tmo is just a player not in tmo trying to suck the cock of tmo for some consideration for entry into tmo or some other special priveledge. The root of all evil in eq are the pixels. if u want to impress tmo, show them how bad you can flame their competition in rnf.

[Splorf22]

FYI guys the reason I am in VP is I paid Zeelot 250,000 platinum pieces, not 500 RnF posts. I got disgusted that the warrior epic is now a 500k MQ and decided to go for second best. This was over a month ago. Don't let facts stop you though.

[Alarti0001]

Hey i am not saying your bad or anything, just having fun with math. Its not like i said you had 42,900 posts which would have been straight 13k x 3.3. We have little info to work with here so i require some slack! You must also conceide that some of the fun in 2011 could have easily pushed you above the 35post a day average from the last 2 weeks. I have given you hefty discount for your breaks and slow time !

As i said there is some serious potential that you have hit 30,000 posts on this forum. Don't be so defensive.

I think big Ro should step in and give us the hard numbers.

Possible but I don't think I started posting really until 2011. I'd like some numbers too!

[Alarti0001]

nearly every anti-bda post from a player not in tmo is just a player not in tmo trying to suck the cock of tmo for some consideration for entry into tmo or some other special priveledge. The root of all evil in eq are the pixels. if u want to impress tmo, show them how bad you can flame their competition in rnf.

Most of the real BDA members are in TMO now.

What is BDA anyways VD guy.

[Furme]

Most of the real BDA members are in TMO now.

What is BDA anyways VD guy.

LOL

Omg

*gasp*

LOLOLOL

Fuck me dude.. I think I just peed myself.

[Furme]

Most of the real BDA members are in TMO now.

What is BDA anyways VD guy.

Okay, I'm cleaned up now..

You've got a funny definition of "Most"..

[Alarti0001]

Okay, I'm cleaned up now..

You've got a funny definition of "Most"..

Or a funny definition of Real members.


Most of the good and cool BDA members have quit the game or left the guild.
The people who still play are newer additions, VD, and a few older BDA members-Sanluen-Sadad etc.

Maybe I was just in BDA before you?

[Susano]

VD guy who wouldn't piss on TMO if they were on fire checking in.

[Alarti0001]

VD guy who wouldn't piss on TMO if they were on fire checking in.

So much hatred and idiocy. Sussy I'll have you know if you were on fire... I would put you out.

Sorry we ruined your life man =(

[Susano]

So much hatred

Been a hater since classic man, keep makin it easy bros!

[trinkets]

nearly every anti-bda post from a player not in tmo is just a player not in tmo trying to suck the cock of tmo for some consideration for entry into tmo or some other special priveledge. The root of all evil in eq are the pixels. if u want to impress tmo, show them how bad you can flame their competition in rnf.

Wow, first post in RnF ever, but I had to comment on that.

You couldn't be more wrong. I have had the most negative experiences with BDA than any other guild on the server and I've been in a tiny guild threatening no one or unguilded doing my own thing and not trying to gain favor with anyone. It has been training, KS'ing, leapfrogging and just generally nasty.

BDA at one point was nice, but that seems to have disappeared perhaps due to inviting anyone/everyone and not controlling for quality. At one point I spent weeks trying to track down an officer that I was told would handle a complaint about one particular winner in your guild but no one could seem to find him online or find an officer that cared. I just rather wrote off BDA at that point and figured scumbags were allowed.

BDA is no longer a happy casual guild IMO, just folks that have been trampled too many times and are now happy to pass that long to someone else that can be trampled.

Abused child growing up to be the abuser? I dunno, but that comment made me laugh.

[SyanideGas]

Sanluen your analogy is so bad I don't even feel the need to reply to it. And Tarathiel, Golems are only raid targets if you suck.

Look if you guys had actually SAID something to me our conversation would have gone something like this:

Loraen: I'm claiming this zone
Sadad: WTF
Loraen: been here 3 hours breaking
Sadad: why?
Loraen: trying to break fear and kill a golem for the solo artist challenge
Sadad: OK, we are here to poopsock Draco
Loraen: how about you kill to the north/West first. If I get any drops I'll let you know

Instead it went like

Loraen: I'm claiming this zone
Sadad to guild chat: hahahah fuck this enchanter
Emboldened necro peon: you suck loraen

Anyway I got dragged back to this thread somehow. It just boggles my mind that you guys are happy with your behavior in this case.

You had 6 people bro, sub 60. You were definitely going to break it.

[arsenalpow]

thank god for logs, Loraen in the red, Stockholm (me) in Magenta, yes magenta, wanna fight about it?

[Tue Jan 29 16:06:01 2013] Loraen says, 'pop?'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:03 2013] Cannyen has healed you for 400 points of damage.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:03 2013] Your skin shimmers.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:04 2013] Shamwow begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:07 2013] Ascention is resistant to magic.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:07 2013] Warok is resistant to magic.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:07 2013] Ennio is resistant to magic.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:07 2013] Burrito is resistant to magic.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:07 2013] You say, 'nah'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:07 2013] Targeted (Player): Warok
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:07 2013] Stand close to and right click on the Player to consider and inspect him. Use the /toggleinspect command to enable or disable right-click inspecting.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:08 2013] is not online at this time.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:09 2013] Shamwow begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:12 2013] Beginning to memorize Bond of Death...
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:13 2013] Shamwow says, 'just late in window'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:13 2013] Loraen says, 'bah im caliming this plane'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:14 2013] You have finished memorizing Bond of Death.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:15 2013] Cannyen cheers at Loraen.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:15 2013] Shamwow's spell fizzles!
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:16 2013] Beginning to memorize Invoke Fear...
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:16 2013] Shamwow begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:16 2013] You have finished memorizing Invoke Fear.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:18 2013] Shamwow winces.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:21 2013] Shamwow begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:24 2013] Rataxes begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:24 2013] Loraen says, 'been breaking it gradually '
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:27 2013] Shamwow begins to regenerate.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:28 2013] Peekayyoo tells the guild, 'should i get to fear or sev?'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:31 2013] Rataxes regains concentration and continues casting.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:31 2013] Rataxes fades away.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:31 2013] Shamwow begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:32 2013] Shamwow winces.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:33 2013] Peekayyoo tells the guild, 'just got on'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:34 2013] You say, 'this is unfortunate for you'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:36 2013] Shamwow begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:36 2013] Turanis tells the guild, 'fear'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:38 2013] Shamwow winces.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:39 2013] Cyndreela begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:47 2013] You say, 'stupid OP chanter'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:58 2013] You feel yourself starting to appear.
[Tue Jan 29 16:07:01 2013] Your shadows fade.


So that was me on my necro and that was the extent of our conversation with you sitting outside of fear plane after you had capped or gated, shut up

[Metallikus]

Wow, first post in RnF ever, but I had to comment on that.

You couldn't be more wrong. I have had the most negative experiences with BDA than any other guild on the server and I've been in a tiny guild threatening no one or unguilded doing my own thing and not trying to gain favor with anyone. It has been training, KS'ing, leapfrogging and just generally nasty.

BDA at one point was nice, but that seems to have disappeared perhaps due to inviting anyone/everyone and not controlling for quality. At one point I spent weeks trying to track down an officer that I was told would handle a complaint about one particular winner in your guild but no one could seem to find him online or find an officer that cared. I just rather wrote off BDA at that point and figured scumbags were allowed.

BDA is no longer a happy casual guild IMO, just folks that have been trampled too many times and are now happy to pass that long to someone else that can be trampled.

Abused child growing up to be the abuser? I dunno, but that comment made me laugh.

ok, here is your stage.

officer willing to hear your complant, go.

what is the winner's name?

what did he do?

where were you trained?

what was KS'd?

what were you leapfrogged on?

[Splorf22]

So that was me on my necro and that was the extent of our conversation with you sitting outside of fear plane after you had capped or gated, shut up

I'm not sure what your point here is - I posted a screenshot of this "conversation" on the solo artist thread already, and it matches perfectly with my account. Or are you making fun of me for capping out of fear? It's kind of a hard zone solo bro.

P.S. How are you going to spin this one Sadad? It turns out I did talk to your raid leader after all.

[arsenalpow]

I'm not sure what your point here is - I posted a screenshot of this "conversation" on the solo artist thread already, and it matches perfectly with my account. Or are you making fun of me for capping out of fear? It's kind of a hard zone solo bro.

P.S. How are you going to spin this one Sadad? It turns out I did talk to your raid leader after all.

I'm not making fun of you for capping out of fear, I'm making fun of you because you think having a 3 sentence conversation constitutes "talking to the raid leader" when you provided no insight into your intentions aside from "I'm cliaming (sic) this plane"

Sadad doesn't have to spin anything. You didn't clarify shit at fear and we did Verina by the book. If you have a problem Sadad doesn't need to answer for it, I'm more than capable of calling you out on your bullshit and providing the requisite evidence to prove how ridiculous you are.

[arsenalpow]

And here's Loraen own screenshot that coincides with that log. Please identify where we steamrolled Loraen in Fear so we might do better the next time.

http://postimage.org/image/b3way5eox/full/

[eqmaze]

"No just late in window"

my fav part lol

[Splorf22]

OK, so let's see if this is a reasonable account:

Loraen enters fear, slowly kills mobs for 3 hours, caps out. Returns to find BDA force. Says he is breaking fearplane. BDA raid leader (on his alt) says 'too bad'.

Would you agree this is a fair representation of what happened?

[arsenalpow]

OK, so let's see if this is a reasonable account:

Loraen enters fear, slowly kills mobs for 3 hours, caps out. Returns to find BDA force. Says he is breaking fearplane. BDA raid leader (on his alt) says 'too bad'.

Would you agree this is a fair representation of what happened?

No, I believe what transpired was you said you had been gradually breaking fear and I said that was "unfortunate" as my guild mobilized to enter the zone thus ending our conversation. If you had wanted to take a golem you should have said something, as shown in the logs/screenshots you didn't. What would have made you happy in this situation? Should I have told my raid that we were going to call if off so a single enchanter could continue to solo break the entrance? Obviously that wasn't going to happen, so please propose a solution that would have solved the situation more equitably.

[quido]

Damn Chest you cold as ice bro. Give the enc a shot. I would have called it off, but obviously you're just way too rude and selfish of a player and person.

[eqmaze]

what we learned here is the need to Poop Sock by BDA is so strong they will stop at nothing

[eqmaze]

and yes calling raids only when merbs are "late in window" is starting a poop sock and if you disagree........ well your BDA that will finish its self

[arsenalpow]

So we hunt in a plane when a mob is late in window and its socking, you park fully buffed characters at a zone and sit at your keyboard one click away waiting for the word. They're both types of socking. Get over yourself.

[quido]

Should come play some red with me, Chest, and vent some of that rage.

Or finally explode =)

[chief]

chest=faggot of the server nothing new here,

[eqmaze]

wait wait I think remember this raid, lol How did that draco window end for juu

[arsenalpow]

I don't remember. It was either the one where draco spawned and we killed him, then CT immediately spawned afterwords and things went to shit OR it was the one where we cleared the zone and draco spawned after midnight when most of our force was asleep.

[Splorf22]

No, I believe what transpired was you said you had been gradually breaking fear and I said that was "unfortunate" as my guild mobilized to enter the zone thus ending our conversation. If you had wanted to take a golem you should have said something, as shown in the logs/screenshots you didn't. What would have made you happy in this situation? Should I have told my raid that we were going to call if off so a single enchanter could continue to solo break the entrance? Obviously that wasn't going to happen, so please propose a solution that would have solved the situation more equitably.

[Tue Jan 29 16:06:24 2013] Loraen says, 'been breaking it gradually'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:34 2013] You say, 'this is unfortunate for you'
[Tue Jan 29 16:06:47 2013] You say, 'stupid OP chanter'

OK I want you to take a second and put yourself in my shoes. You like to push the limits of the enchanter class and today you got up early to do fearplane when usually no one else is around. You have never soloed fear before and are making all sorts of mistakes and generally having a rough time, but after 3 hours you finally have cleared 10-15 of the roamers and things are looking up. You have a rough fight with 8 fear mobs and have to cap, and when you get back some BDA want to poopsock fear. You point out (rather clumsily admittedly, give me a break I was tired. charm soloing is exhausting) that you have been working on this for a while. The raid leader says 'sucks to be you' and then follows it up with a gratuitous insult. Having had this interaction do you think a) Wow, what a great bunch of dudes or b) These guys are assholes who don't give two shits about anyone but themselves ?

If you weren't determined to be a douche, our conversation could have gone something like this:

Loraen: I'm claiming this plane [fuck you I'm fixing my spelling errors!]
Loraen: breaking it gradually
Moderately Douchey Chest: Whoa buddy, you can't claim the entire plane. I have a raid here
Loraen: But I've been here for three hours. Almost have it broken.
Moderately Douchey Chest: Do you expect us to just sit out here on our thumbs so you can do your solo artist challenge, you OP chanter you?
Loraen: Well can you give me 10-20 more minutes? I'm almost done, then I'll head off east to kill a golem. I'll let you know if anything drops
Moderately Douchey Chest: Alright, we need to clear towards Draco to the North/West anyway first. But then we're gonna clear the rest.
Loraen zones into fear, mildly irritated

Or it could have gone something like this:

Loraen: I'm claiming this plane
Loraen: breaking it gradually
Solo Artist Challenge Fan Chest: Oh, is that the solo artist challenge thing you do?
Loraen: yeah, break fear and clear a golem solo. Not really going that well though.
Solo Artist Challenge Fan Chest: Maybe you should take the day off!
Loraen: Never!
Solo Artist Challenge Fan Chest: I need to bring in my zerg to poopsock Draco. I wish we could do stuff with low numbers like you!
Loraen: Well, I suppose I've done enough breaking solo to qualify. I'll head off east and try and kill a golem
Solo Artist Challenge Fan Chest: Sure, let us know if anything drops
Loraen: roger

Or maybe something like this:

Loraen: I'm claiming this plane
Loraen: breaking it gradually
Nice Chest: Well we have a raid force here to sock Draco, I don't want to just go home. Any way we can work together? Fear is a big zone.
Loraen: I'm like Batman, I prefer to work alone. But if you give me 10-15 minutes you can head off towards Draco and I'll head SE towards Dread
Nice Chest: It'll take us that long to get the rest of our people here anyway. I fully expect to rez your dead corpse when we zone in though! Quantity has a quality all its own.
Loraen: hehe probably

I had way too much fun writing those conversations. But my point is if you had even TRIED to negotiate with me in any way you would have found that we could both get what we wanted. I'm pretty reasonable when I'm given a chance. I am really puzzled that you think posting that log did not make you look like a tool.

[arsenalpow]

You're an idiot.

[Splorf22]

You're an idiot.

OK Chest. What would you have liked me to say?

[arsenalpow]

OK Chest. What would you have liked me to say?

You could have said "I'm here for a golem" and then we could negotiated something.

[OMGWTF420]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/WTFSTFU/yo-dawg-i-herd-you-liek-derp-so-i-put-a-herp-derp-in-for-your-derp-so-you-can-herp-derp-that-derp-dawg.jpg

[Splorf22]

So something like:

Loraen: bah im claiming this plane
Loraen: been breaking it gradually
Chest: this is unfortunate for you
Chest: stupid OP chanter
Loraen: I'm just here for a golem
Chest: Oh of course you can have a golem np

Are you serious?

[SyanideGas]

So something like:

Loraen: bah im claiming this plane
Loraen: been breaking it gradually
Chest: this is unfortunate for you
Chest: stupid OP chanter
Loraen: I'm just here for a golem
Chest: Oh of course you can have a golem np

Are you serious?

Pretty sure they would have come to some sort of agreement for yall to have a golem. They aren't even a big deal, act like our leadership is impossible to work with.

[Taresh]

leadership is impossible to work with.

qft

[Sadad]

So something like:

Loraen: bah im claiming this plane
Loraen: been breaking it gradually
Chest: this is unfortunate for you
Chest: stupid OP chanter
Loraen: I'm just here for a golem
Chest: Oh of course you can have a golem np

Are you serious?

....yeah?

[Splorf22]

....yeah?

You don't think that any normal human being would just leave after the first two lines?

[SyanideGas]

Im almost pretty sure we zoned in to fear and were clearing 30 minutes before you guys actually zoned in, then just came in and started claiming shit.

[Susano]

You don't think that any normal human being would just leave after the first two lines?

You clearly have no idea how normal human beings behave in a social structure. Hence the soloist mentality.

[Autotune]

You could have said "I'm here for a golem" and then we could negotiated something.

bda owns fear ya'll best recognize when they in fear and TMO's not, cause they will bully the shit out of ya son.

[Splorf22]

Im almost pretty sure we zoned in to fear and were clearing 30 minutes before you guys actually zoned in, then just came in and started claiming shit.

And you also thought we had 6 people. Your lack of contact with reality is remarkable. How about you read this link and experience actual facts.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=830170&postcount=423

[Splorf22]

Wow so I just realized Sadad is Shamwow. So combined with Stockholm being Chest, that means both of you guys knew I was there (since you replied to my earlier comment). Pretty hilarious of you to post here saying 'send me a tell' when you fucking heard everything I was saying. What a bunch of shit.

[Zeelot]

Would be hilarious if Sadad was actually Shamewow. Shamewow is a BDA spy!?

[Zeelot]

Oh I just realized there's a guy named Shamwow too. Damn imposter

[finalgrunt]

The way I see it:

Loraen is trying to play EQ like it's a single player game. ;)

[jkfranklin]

Bda=blatant dumb asses

[Splorf22]

The way I see it:

Loraen is trying to play EQ like it's a single player game. ;)

Heheh well occasionally. Sometimes I just feel like shit and want to go off and do something by myself. And I do enjoy the challenge of killing stuff solo. In general though my favorite is small groups or raids of competent people. Which is why I started The A-Team.

[Alarti0001]

Reports coming in that Anthrax is raging hard in BDA and cursing out long term members for raid dodging. Usual BDA sources please send me some screens plz, so I can add them here.
Everyone wants to know what a Casual Raid Guild looks like.

[Metallikus]

if you knew me, you would know I don't rage. If you stay at your fungi camp to go for a 5th or 6th fungi tunic for the day rather than mobilizing for a once in 4 month server repop to help fellow guildies get epic pieces that are normally unattainable, then I demand an explanation. Grats on your real awesome leaked insider info though lol.

[Nlaar]

Reports coming in that Anthrax is raging hard in BDA and cursing out long term members for raid dodging. Usual BDA sources please send me some screens plz, so I can add them here.
Everyone wants to know what a Casual Raid Guild looks like.

Pathetic on several levels.

[Alarti0001]

if you knew me, you would know I don't rage. If you stay at your fungi camp to go for a 5th or 6th fungi tunic for the day rather than mobilizing for a once in 4 month server repop to help fellow guildies get epic pieces that are normally unattainable, then I demand an explanation. Grats on your real awesome leaked insider info though lol.

Your history demonstrates rage. So forgive me if I am not convinced by your biased self-description.

BDA normally doesn't have a chance at epic pieces because they train themselves so hard. Not because people don't show up. You could have had Inny and Maestro maybe even Draco last respawn.

[Splorf22]

if you knew me, you would know I don't rage.

FWIW this is true. Metallikus sounds kind of like Seth Rogen in vent. Really Metallikus isn't that bad of a guy. Wrong about a lot of things and takes this game way too seriously, but he's not a raging nutjob like Sussy. It was always kinda funny to watch him and Bisch ego joust. My biggest problem with him in VD was that he was kind of a communist when it came to raids; I would blow off 1-2 per week to farm or solo or whatever and despite the fact that my raid attendance was actually quite high we would always get into arguments there.

[OMGWTF420]

Reports coming in that Anthrax is raging hard in BDA and cursing out long term members for raid dodging. Usual BDA sources please send me some screens plz, so I can add them here.
Everyone wants to know what a Casual Raid Guild looks like.

TMO cares

[Metallikus]

waiting on those juicy screenies alarti, confirmed bad at bluffing

[Alarti0001]

waiting on those juicy screenies alarti, confirmed bad at bluffing

I didn't say I had screenshots. I said usual sources please send me them. So far I havent received any.

Confirmed bad at reading.

[Tiggles]

I didn't say I had screenshots. I said usual sources please send me them. So far I havent received any.

Confirmed bad at reading.

Why even acknowledge BDA's existence? They are not a raiding guild they can't even kill maestro nothing metallikus says even remotely matters.


They have no sway on this server what so ever other then to help players level up to join better guilds they are the same exact guild as Peace Pipe.

It's a guild of casual levelers and non raiders led by a group of washed up players who have issues following orders or given constructive criticism so they can't join a real raiding guild so they purposely keep themselves in a "big fish small pond" guild so they can boss around the casuals and claim "wahh the big guilds pick on the casual guilds" at the same time.

[Alarti0001]

Why even acknowledge BDA's existence? They are not a raiding guild they can't even kill maestro nothing metallikus says even remotely matters.


They have no sway on this server what so ever other then to help players level up to join better guilds they are the same exact guild as Peace Pipe.

It's a guild of casual levelers and non raiders led by a group of washed up players who have issues following orders or given constructive criticism so they can't join a real raiding guild so they purposely keep themselves in a "big fish small pond" guild so they can boss around the casuals and claim "wahh the big guilds pick on the casual guilds" at the same time.

As an ex-BDA member I have a special place in my heart for BDA

[Kevynne]

BDA constantly spinning and pissing off every other guild on the server.

you know you're a hated guild when even the lowbie guilds strongly dislike you too lol

[Senaiel]

Not taking sides here... But holy shit, if you guys are arguing about 2 different organizations in one plane post kunark, you would have had an unforced enema in your pants prekunark and presky with 4 or 5 guilds royal rumbling for boogeyman.

[Kassel]

Not taking sides here... But holy shit, if you guys are arguing about 2 different organizations in one plane post kunark, you would have had an unforced enema in your pants prekunark and presky with 4 or 5 guilds royal rumbling for boogeyman.

I will charm the fuck out of your gorgon.

[kotton05]

all this over solo'ing in a raid plane...? or am i missing something

[Nlaar]

Not taking sides here... But holy shit, if you guys are arguing about 2 different organizations in one plane post kunark, you would have had an unforced enema in your pants prekunark and presky with 4 or 5 guilds royal rumbling for boogeyman.

Man speaks the truth. Good to hear from ya Sen!!

[Jenni D]

haha
pre kunark trash clears in fear. so infuriating having original tmo sat waiting for vd/doze/darkwind etc to break fear. THEN beovvulf pulls all the good mobs lulz

[OMGWTF420]

tmo break fear yet?

[chtulu]

not long ago tmo sucked. they still suck, but they just throw quantity at whatever obstacle they have.

[Cecily]

First person to tag a scarling has FTE on PoF.

[Jokesteve]

you know you're a hated guild when even the lowbie guilds strongly dislike you too lol

QFT.

Ive had more bad experiences with BDA than any other guild on the server.

[gotrocks]

well fuck i was kind of in the mood for a flamewar. bring it on BDA, I got a lot of flames here ready to go . . . you cowardly cheating no-good hamsters

lol, didnt read anything but the first page, but you had me giggling at getting mad at autotune splorf.

i could tell you were winding up for a fight :)