Eccezan (TMOfficer) and Thebest get logged by GM and subsequently get banned for MQ

[Godefroi]

So fucking an ex GM RMTer for early suspension lift and offering 0% rezes when you lose repeatedly was just for starters !

Logging 10 mins prior to trakanon and accusing FE was stupid, but it now has an explanation.

It's too bad you made that little mistake to ninja loot that last trakanon FE won, getting a GM to log on Both TMO Officer Eccezan and member Thebest to recover loot which allowed him to see both were Macroquest users, hence banning both of them.

I congratulate you TMO, you are officially a cheater guild!

:D

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1295/eccmq.jpg

[TxRanjahs]

Doesn't surprise me

[Eccezan]

lol. Figured it would come to this...

Yes, Holyspawn is currently banned for being flagged for MQ.

Yes, I purchased the account in September 2012 and since I don't use MQ, the account was obviously flagged since before then.

Yes, there is a petition pending for it to look into dates of infraction and I'm looking towards the account being unsuspended once that checks out.

Yes, FE will spin this. Spin, spin, spin.

[Mortiiss]

Wow. What a bunch of cheaters.

[Eccezan]

Also, Yes, I am for banning all MQ flagged accounts immediately, so this behavior can be deterred in the future.

[jkfranklin]

Wow. What a bunch of cheaters.

[TxRanjahs]

lol. Figured it would come to this...

Yes, Holyspawn is currently banned for being flagged for MQ.

Yes, I purchased the account in September 2012 and since I don't use MQ, the account was obviously flagged since before then.

Yes, there is a petition pending for it to look into dates of infraction and I'm looking towards the account being unsuspended once that checks out.

Yes, FE will spin this. Spin, spin, spin.

Save the explainin for rogean man!!! Our proof is there

[Diggles 2.0]

this is a really stupid thread. you can't run around spinning that TMO buys account and then try to spin that they're cheaters because some of the accounts are sour

[Mortiiss]

Tinfoil hat this time around for me? Doesn't appear so.

[OMGWTF420]

surprised??????

no, not really

[Hitchens]

Unless wizard was banned I fail to see the point of this thread.

[Godefroi]

Unless wizard was banned I fail to see the point of this thread.

He is banned aswell ;)

[bizzum]

It's too bad you made that little mistake to ninja loot that last trakanon FE won, getting a GM to log on Both TMO Officer Eccezan and member Thebest to recover loot which allowed him to see both were Macroquest users, hence banning both of them.


Thebest hasn't been at a Traknon raid in 2 weeks, and the last one he was at he didn't loot anything. Nice try lmao

[49shadesofgay]

Wow. This is huge news.

I would love to hear from the server staff how this plays out.

Eccezan, time to cancel that redguide level 2 sub, bro.

Your time ran out.

[Frieza_Prexus]

He is banned aswell ;)

Unless the ban has taken place within the last hour, Eccezan was in game this afternoon.

[Eccezan]

He is banned aswell ;)

Have you tryed a /who all Eccezan lately? Oh...guess I'll add liars to french being cowards.

[OMGWTF420]

gonna love to see TMO spin their way out of this one, considering one of their most prominent and outspoken members on the forums and in game, who is also an officer that is in charge of selling their ill begotten raid loot was just banned for using MQ.

how the fuck are you going to deny this TMO??

inb4 "oh but he didnt know"

ignorance is not a valid excuse

[Tiggles]

Wow. What a bunch of cheaters.

[Hitchens]

gonna love to see TMO spin their way out of this one, considering one of their most prominent and outspoken members on the forums and in game, who is also an officer that is in charge of selling their ill begotten raid loot was just banned for using MQ.

how the fuck are you going to deny this TMO??

inb4 "oh but he didnt know"

ignorance is not a valid excuse

How would he know that an account he purchased was flagged for MQ use before he even purchased it?

[49shadesofgay]

gonna love to see TMO spin their way out of this one, considering one of their most prominent and outspoken members on the forums and in game, who is also an officer that is in charge of selling their ill begotten raid loot was just banned for using MQ.

how the fuck are you going to deny this TMO??

inb4 "oh but he didnt know"

ignorance is not a valid excuse

I'm sure he uses it on live servers and left it running accidently when responding to one of those 4am batphones. :rolleyes:

At least Perun had the balls to man up and take blame when he was accused of using SEQ.

Will Eccezan do the same?

[Tiggles]

gonna love to see TMO spin their way out of this one, considering one of their most prominent and outspoken members on the forums and in game, who is also an officer that is in charge of selling their ill begotten raid loot was just banned for using MQ.

how the fuck are you going to deny this TMO??

inb4 "oh but he didnt know"

ignorance is not a valid excuse

Lol he bought some character in EC that was flagged for MQ they banned the account then eccezan got it fixed.

if anything TMO got ripped off

[OMGWTF420]

How would he know that an account he purchased was flagged for MQ use before he even purchased it?

even if we did believe that story, which most of us probably dont. it still doesnt excuse it. ignorance of the law does not absolve you from guilt

[Trollcake]

if anything TMO got ripped off

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwm3w3KRyy1r071j5o1_400.gif

[OMGWTF420]

Lol he bought some character in EC that was flagged for MQ they banned the account then eccezan got it fixed.

if anything TMO got ripped off


spin spin spin spin spin

[Godefroi]

Eccezan's Alt Holyspawn was banned. Please log him in Ecc :D

Thebest was also banned. I just thought I'd name the thread with Eccezan directly and not his scrub alt #5 VP geared alt, he wasn't stupid enough to use MQ on his main. He is a tool, but not entirely ;)

[Eccezan]

How would he know that an account he purchased was flagged for MQ use before he even purchased it?

This.

Although, to be honest, I had always thought that GM's banned MQ flagged accounts in an proactive manner, rather than a one off, manual "oh this account is flagged for MQ, must ban now" manner. At least up until the Bouncerr scandal.

Of course, while selling accounts for platinum has always been "frowned upon" but not illegal, I suppose one can argue that its buyer beware in situations like this.

As an aside, I guess that everyone whose ever purchased an account is in danger of that account being flagged for MQ at the time of purchase and being banned at a random time in the future, regardless of whether they actually used it or not. Something that can be fixed, if all MQ flagged accounts were banned on the spot (which I'm sure can be handled by a constant running script or something)

[Tiggles]

shouldn't3 you guy's corpses be in VP already?

I heard a couple of you got past the first set of mobs before taking a dirt nap.

[Frieza_Prexus]

even if we did believe that story, which most of us probably dont. it still doesnt excuse it. ignorance of the law does not absolve you from guilt

Ignorance of the law does not absolve you from mandatory participation in the adjudicatory process. The account was banned, and he plead his case before a legitimate decision making authority.

Why is that difficult to accept? It's entirely possible he used MQ himself, however it would have been incredibly reckless. Say what you will about TMO's leadership, but it is anything but sloppy when it comes to issues such as this.

[OMGWTF420]

id be interested to see what zones these characters that were flagged with mq are frequently found in

[Hailto]

lol. Figured it would come to this...

Yes, Holyspawn is currently banned for being flagged for MQ.

Yes, I purchased the account in September 2012 and since I don't use MQ, the account was obviously flagged since before then.

Yes, there is a petition pending for it to look into dates of infraction and I'm looking towards the account being unsuspended once that checks out.

Yes, FE will spin this. Spin, spin, spin.

Theres nothing really to spin here, you got banned for MQ.

[OMGWTF420]

also, how many more TMO tagged toons need to be banned for MQ use before we can call your whole guild a bunch of cheaters?

[dragonfists]

Holyspawn (whoever has been cheating behind the account) for the longest time was the only person I had on ignore - so fucking annoying.. later last year my ignore list grew to two people because Ecc got added to it one night for being an equal asshat.. this now makes sense..

Say what you want, "oh I dont cheat, I'm so much better than that".. not all tmo does obviously and I'm sure 99% dont but all it takes is 1 rotten dipshit to stink it up

If this was someone in FE TMO would be having a field day with publicity lawyers so better work those guys overtime on the counter-spin.

gg ecc

[Tiggles]

Holyspawn (whoever has been cheating behind the account) for the longest time was the only person I had on ignore - so fucking annoying.. later last year my ignore list grew to two people because Ecc got added to it one night for being an equal asshat.. this now makes sense..

Say what you want, "oh I dont cheat, I'm so much better than that".. not all tmo does obviously and I'm sure 99% dont but all it takes is 1 rotten dipshit to stink it up

If this was someone in FE TMO would be having a field day with publicity lawyers so better work those guys overtime on the counter-spin.

gg ecc

Yeah it's all fun I would 100% do the same thing if Shinko bought a banned account you have a valid point.


How long did you last in VP today dragon? I think Zeelot chased you out quick

[jkfranklin]

I seen an FE necro warping in WW 2 days ago.

[Nirgon]

MQ usage should be a death sentence for playing here.

[Loke]

Lol cheater. Welcome to the club buddy.

[49shadesofgay]

This.

Although, to be honest, I had always thought that GM's banned MQ flagged accounts in an proactive manner, rather than a one off, manual "oh this account is flagged for MQ, must ban now" manner. At least up until the Bouncerr scandal.

Of course, while selling accounts for platinum has always been "frowned upon" but not illegal, I suppose one can argue that its buyer beware in situations like this.

As an aside, I guess that everyone whose ever purchased an account is in danger of that account being flagged for MQ at the time of purchase and being banned at a random time in the future, regardless of whether they actually used it or not. Something that can be fixed, if all MQ flagged accounts were banned on the spot (which I'm sure can be handled by a constant running script or something)


Even fi we were to believe your story, which is a bit of a stretch at this point, do you mind telling us "why" your flagged account alt was banned?

Clearly there are a lot of MQ flagged accounts from the past out there that were forgiven, and they are not being banned randomly every day. So that means that you must have done something to actively get this account banned. What was it? Did you load up MQ2 again?

Or are you claiming the GMs were just "mad" at you and since your account was marked as an MQ2 user they decided to ban you, even though this has never been documented as happening to any other MQ2 flagged account in the history of this server, and there are still 100s of MQ2 flagged users running around who haven't been "unlucky"?

Fess up, what did you do?

[Tiggles]

I seen an FE necro warping in WW 2 days ago.

confirmed

100% of FE players hack

[49shadesofgay]

Even fi we were to believe your story, which is a bit of a stretch at this point, do you mind telling us "why" your flagged account alt was banned?

Clearly there are a lot of MQ flagged accounts from the past out there that were forgiven, and they are not being banned randomly every day. So that means that you must have done something to actively get this account banned. What was it? Did you load up MQ2 again?

Or are you claiming the GMs were just "mad" at you and since your account was marked as an MQ2 user they decided to ban you, even though this has never been documented as happening to any other MQ2 flagged account in the history of this server, and there are still 100s of MQ2 flagged users running around who haven't been "unlucky"?

Fess up, what did you do?

[Diggles 2.0]

Visceral says Eccezan's wiz gets banned, ignores posts proving otherwise and continues to spin

[49shadesofgay]

There are only so many options.

The most likely 2:

you did something that earned the ban, or..
GMs randomly decided to ban you because your account was MQ2 flagged from past actions, but they have not done this to any other old MQ2 flagged accounts?

I know which sounds most likely..

[Eccezan]

Even fi we were to believe your story, which is a bit of a stretch at this point, do you mind telling us "why" your flagged account alt was banned?

Clearly there are a lot of MQ flagged accounts from the past out there that were forgiven, and they are not being banned randomly every day. So that means that you must have done something to actively get this account banned. What was it? Did you load up MQ2 again?

Or are you claiming the GMs were just "mad" at you and since your account was marked as an MQ2 user they decided to ban you, even though this has never been documented as happening to any other MQ2 flagged account in the history of this server, and there are still 100s of MQ2 flagged users running around who haven't been "unlucky"?

Fess up, what did you do?
As an officer, I looted a Trakanon loot item (Dragon guts) The trak fte was in question, so all items were taken by GM's, who then saw that there was an undated flag. (GM's do not see dates of flags, Rogean can though) At this point, they banned the char.

Btw do you always sound like this guy in your posts?
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Andy%20Griffith/andy-griffith-11-sized.jpg

Btw all my posts up to this point have been informative and tell the entire story. So, getting back to work and done feeding the trolls ;)

Have a good one on this thread.

[Diggles 2.0]

case closed

[49shadesofgay]

As an officer, I looted a Trakanon loot item (Dragon guts) The trak fte was in question, so all items were taken by GM's, who then saw that there was an undated flag. (GM's do not see dates of flags, Rogean can though) At this point, they banned the char.

Btw do you always sound like this guy in your posts?
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Andy%20Griffith/andy-griffith-11-sized.jpg

Btw all my posts up to this point have been informative and tell the entire story. So, getting back to work and done feeding the trolls ;)

Have a good one on this thread.

So you're saying that because your character was involved in an FTE dispute, and that the account was MQ flagged that you were banned for... what... exactly?

Sounds like you were banned for ninjalooting then.

I thought guilds usually got raid suspensions for such acts?

It makes absolutely 0 sense to ban an account for something that happened 1.5 years ago on a completely seperate issue. Something isn't adding up.

[Hailto]

Btw do you always sound like this guy in your posts?
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Andy%20Griffith/andy-griffith-11-sized.jpg


Is that supposed to be an insult Eccezan, Andy Griffith was 10 times the man you will ever be and would have not needed to use MQ to play a cleric.

[jkfranklin]

Is that supposed to be an insult Eccezan, Andy Griffith was 10 times the man you will ever be and would have not needed to use MQ to play a cleric.

[49shadesofgay]

I'm also curious.. were you the only person banned at this event?

Id the other people present had been MQ flagged from years ago, would they too have received a ban? What affect does being MQ flagged have on the outcome of a completely seperate issue have on a dispute years later?

Inquiring minds.

[Godefroi]

case closed

quick cover our cheating up !!!!

:D

[Relapse2]

So you're saying that because your character was involved in an FTE dispute, and that the account was MQ flagged that you were banned for... what... exactly?

Sounds like you were banned for ninjalooting then.

I thought guilds usually got raid suspensions for such acts?

It makes absolutely 0 sense to ban an account for something that happened 1.5 years ago on a completely seperate issue. Something isn't adding up.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[49shadesofgay]

I think Zeelot sent in the gag order. :)

[Diggles 2.0]

quick cover our cheating up !!!!

:D

im not in TMO

:D

[Diggles 2.0]

I do have access to FE guild chat though

:D

[Jarnauga]

http://i.imgur.com/ELcUI.png

[Hailto]

Punda is only a tmo-activist for trolling purposes, he has admitted this.

[Massive Marc]

damn bro, been missing you dropping bombs on *****s. Uth still #1

[cyryllis]

dude he got banned because we secretly sit holyspawn in lower guk with MQ so we can get all the frenzies before other guilds. It is hands down the fastest plat per hour known to mankind and we cannot let our grasp on the situation weaken. He hacks so well you dont even see him in the zone when you /who BUT HES THERE

maybe if FE had pro MQ guk trackers they would have better haste items and be able to enter the peak of veeshan and dispatch the army of darkness that resides within.

However, since FE wastes most of there time socking raid mobs instead of camping valuable dps increasing items, this will never happen. Sorry, better luck next time suckers, have fun continuing to run around in your hangmans noose.

NOOBS, see you in vp...oh wait....

dragons

[Taffan]

http://i.imgur.com/ELcUI.png

So, Zeelot's booting Eccezan?

[Alarti0001]

Unless the ban has taken place within the last hour, Eccezan was in game this afternoon.

Confirmed he was there for the FE wipe to Gorenaire. He even shouted the loots for you.

[Frieza_Prexus]

So, Zeelot's booting Eccezan?

Only if he is found to have actively participated in utilizing a 3rd party program. Despite common belief, the Court of Rants and Flames is not binding.

[Massive Marc]

Only if he is found to have actively participated in utilizing a 3rd party program. Despite common belief, the Court of Rants and Flames is not binding.

i'd say a ban is pretty damning evidence.

[Alarti0001]

So fucking an ex GM RMTer for early suspension lift and offering 0% rezes when you lose repeatedly was just for starters !

Logging 10 mins prior to trakanon and accusing FE was stupid, but it now has an explanation.

It's too bad you made that little mistake to ninja loot that last trakanon FE won, getting a GM to log on Both TMO Officer Eccezan and member Thebest to recover loot which allowed him to see both were Macroquest users, hence banning both of them.

I congratulate you TMO, you are officially a cheater guild!

:D



I read this as.... My guild just embarrasingly wiped to Gorenaire with 40 people. During which we only managed to reduce her HP to 90%.

Must save face... quick pretend scandal!

[Frieza_Prexus]

i'd say a ban is pretty damning evidence.

And what you consider a subsequent lifting of that ban to be?

[49shadesofgay]

i'd say a ban is pretty damning evidence.

Can't you read bro.. he was banned over a raid dispute. He was the only one banned however, and it's pretty common.. happens all the fucking time.

Oh wait... :rolleyes::D

[Alarti0001]

And what you consider a subsequent lifting of that ban to be?

Obviously buying off the gm or gm favortism or sex with gms. Only options!

[Massive Marc]

And what you consider a subsequent lifting of that ban to be?

shitty cookies.

[Frieza_Prexus]

shitty cookies.

Does this mean that authority is only legitimate when it is convenient for you?

Time will tell what happened, I suppose.

[Massive Marc]

furthermore, until this 'subsequent lifting of that ban' (which you seem so confident will happen.. wonder why ? dem cookies you know ?) your guild has officers that are scum bag cheaters.

[Tiggles]

And what you consider a subsequent lifting of that ban to be?

Obviously buying off the gm or gm favortism or sex with gms. Only options!

Zade is such a cutie though I couldn't resist.


I have a GM banging problem I know =(

[radditsu]

And what you consider a subsequent lifting of that ban to be?

I do not even know how to respond to this. You know why, we all know why he got "unbanned".

[Hailto]

I read this as.... My guild just embarrasingly wiped to Gorenaire with 40 people. During which we only managed to reduce her HP to 90%.

Must save face... quick pretend scandal!

It sorta stopped being pretend after he got banned.

[Alarti0001]

It sorta stopped being pretend after he got banned.

Ahh his alt got banned for a flag prior to his purchase. Its a pretend scandal. Did you know unicorns aren't real also?

[Frieza_Prexus]

furthermore, until this 'subsequent lifting of that ban' (which you seem so confident will happen.. wonder why ? dem cookies you know ?) your guild has officers that are scum bag cheaters.

I find the proffered explanation to be the most likely. However, at no point have I denied the possibility of Eccezan having cheated. I simply, based upon my experience and observation, consider the most probable scenario to be the one presented. It makes no sense for TMO's leadership to use MQ in any real way when we have such a massive infrastructure dedicated to tracking and pulling.

It's decision theory. What is to be gained when so much is at stake?

[quido]

I need to learn to use SEQ this week =P not 2 cheat tho

[feanan]

Just another reason why buying/selling of accounts should not be allowed.

TMO can just buy all the throw away accounts they want. When you are making hundreds of thousands of pp a day, buying level 60 characters for 100k is nothing.

I'm sure they have a whole bunch of accounts that they use for MQ and SEQ and other stuff that they don't care if they lose. Wow, my 8th alt got busted for MQ...next!

It's like fining bill gates $100 for speeding or something. big fucking deal

[Alarti0001]

furthermore, until this 'subsequent lifting of that ban' (which you seem so confident will happen.. wonder why ? dem cookies you know ?) your guild has officers that are scum bag cheaters.

Massively Idiotic. Read what you wrote!!! Its laughable you are on a crusade...When GMs ban TMO members alts its legitimate... if its unbanned its illegitimate. Your thinking is illegitimate. Come back and play later. Such a tool!

[Massive Marc]

I find the proffered explanation to be the most likely. However, at no point have I denied the possibility of Eccezan having cheated. I simply, based upon my experience and observation, consider the most probable scenario to be the one presented. It makes no sense for TMO's leadership to use MQ in any real way when we have such a massive infrastructure dedicated to tracking and pulling.

It's decision theory. What is to be gained when so much is at stake?

Do you really need an answer for this ?

I CAN'T POSSIBLY IMAGINE WHAT WOULD BE GAINED FROM USING MQ ?

[Alarti0001]

I'm sure they have a whole bunch of accounts that they use for MQ and SEQ and other stuff that they don't care if they lose. Wow, my 8th alt got busted for MQ...next!



Oh really... where are you getting your ... evidence?

[Alarti0001]

Do you really need an answer for this ?

I CAN'T POSSIBLY IMAGINE WHAT WOULD BE GAINED FROM USING MQ ?

Yes... what would be gained....Please provide examples as it pertains to eccezan.

[Massive Marc]

Massively Idiotic. Read what you wrote!!! Its laughable you are on a crusade...When GMs ban TMO members alts its legitimate... if its unbanned its illegitimate. Your thinking is illegitimate. Come back and play later. Such a tool!

who said that, fuck you're a garbage poster... tmo dick riding faggot. IF this kids ban is reverted, feel free to quote my post and ill recant my statement.

until then, youre still just juggling TMO nuts. get fucked virigin.

[Alarti0001]

who said that, fuck you're a garbage poster... tmo dick riding faggot. IF this kids ban is reverted, feel free to quote my post and ill recant my statement.

until then, youre still just juggling TMO nuts. get fucked virigin.

Your mad...... bro? LOL Get off those roids rage kid.

[radditsu]

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[49shadesofgay]

Does this mean that authority is only legitimate when it is convenient for you?

Time will tell what happened, I suppose.

Eccezan has already admitted to looting another guilds kill, after which the account was banned.

What's the spin for this one exactly? That it's alright to loot another guilds kills when you don't have FTE, because the moment is so confusing, and fuck it you did get exp afterall?

If not for MQ use (the most likely scenario here) he still deserves a ban, and TMO a raid suspension for ninja looting, which is a well-set precedent.

I just hope that the loot gets back to the proper owners and is transferred and monitored appropriately.

By the by, was this over one of the past couple Trakanons in which Zeelot stole agro from FE and killed and looted FE's mob, or is this from a different encounter/sockfest? Just curious for those of us playing along at home. :)

[Frieza_Prexus]

I do not even know how to respond to this. You know why, we all know why he got "unbanned".

My understanding is that the "unban" has not yet happened.

That said, it seems that you're implying that a ban is acceptable evidence of wrong doing, yet an unban is not acceptable evidence of exoneration. Both are actions conducted by authority figures. Why would one be more persuasive than the other? It follows that if bans can be trusted, so should unbans.

Do you really need an answer for this ?

I CAN'T POSSIBLY IMAGINE WHAT WOULD BE GAINED FROM USING MQ ?

Yes. I would like to hear a proper and thorough rationalization of why MQ would be used when so much is at stake. It's certainly possible, but it is a sloppiness that has generally not been seen within TMO's leadership.

[Diggles 2.0]

It sorta stopped being pretend after he got banned and then immediately unbanned because of the circumstances

[Frieza_Prexus]

Eccezan has already admitted to looting another guilds kill, after which the account was banned.

What's the spin for this one exactly? That it's alright to loot another guilds kills when you don't have FTE, because the moment is so confusing, and fuck it you did get exp afterall?

If not for MQ use (the most likely scenario here) he still deserves a ban, and TMO a raid suspension for ninja looting, which is a well-set precedent.

I just hope that the loot gets back to the proper owners and is transferred and monitored appropriately.

By the by, was this over one of the past couple Trakanons in which Zeelot stole agro from FE and killed and looted FE's mob, or is this from a different encounter/sockfest? Just curious for those of us playing along at home. :)

It is a long established practice that when a GM is not around to immediately adjudicate FTE that the loot is taken up. Is it your position that the loot should instead rot?

[Diggles 2.0]

The only version of MQ that can be feasibly used on P99 without immediately getting you banned is pretty much worthless on Blue except to know the exact time you can come back from a med break.

[49shadesofgay]

I find the proffered explanation to be the most likely. However, at no point have I denied the possibility of Eccezan having cheated. I simply, based upon my experience and observation, consider the most probable scenario to be the one presented. It makes no sense for TMO's leadership to use MQ in any real way when we have such a massive infrastructure dedicated to tracking and pulling.

It's decision theory. What is to be gained when so much is at stake?

This makes you sound incredibly naive. :(
For all you know, Eccezan is platlord and is making a living off hacking and selling platinum. Not likely given his intelligence level, but for all you know it's a distinct possibility.

My understanding is that the "unban" has not yet happened.

That said, it seems that you're implying that a ban is acceptable evidence of wrong doing, yet an unban is not acceptable evidence of exoneration. Both are actions conducted by authority figures. Why would one be more persuasive than the other? It follows that if bans can be trusted, so should unbans.

I agree with you.. however in this scenario Eccezan the accused has already admitted to ninja looting another guilds mob. No matter what the outcome, he was wrong.

[Massive Marc]

Your mad...... bro? LOL Get off those roids rage kid.

BAD POSTER IS BAD ? U MAD ? GETTING OWNED DAILY BY A FRENCH MAN HAS CLEARLY TAKEN A ITS TOLL ON YOUR ABILITY TO POST ANYTHING WORTHY OF RNF. GO BACK TO TROLLING HERE (http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/my-little-pony/forum)

[radditsu]

My understanding is that the "unban" has not yet happened.

That said, it seems that you're implying that a ban is acceptable evidence of wrong doing, yet an unban is not acceptable evidence of exoneration. Both are actions conducted by authority figures. Why would one be more persuasive than the other? It follows that if bans can be trusted, so should unbans.



Yes. I would like to hear a proper and thorough rationalization of why MQ would be used when so much is at stake. It's certainly possible, but it is a sloppiness that has generally not been seen within TMO's leadership.


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Eccezan is Gene Hackman

[Alarti0001]

BAD POSTER IS BAD ? U MAD ? GETTING OWNED DAILY BY A FRENCH MAN HAS CLEARLY TAKEN A ITS TOLL ON YOUR ABILITY TO POST ANYTHING WORTHY OF RNF. GO BACK TO TROLLING HERE (http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/my-little-pony/forum)

Capslock keyboard smashing... LOL

Poor kid.... you live in a sad world. Got torpor?

[Alarti0001]

This makes you sound incredibly naive. :(
For all you know, Eccezan is platlord and is making a living off hacking and selling platinum. Not likely given his intelligence level, but for all you know it's a distinct possibility.



I agree with you.. however in this scenario Eccezan the accused has already admitted to ninja looting another guilds mob. No matter what the outcome, he was wrong.

This makes you sound incredibly naive.

[Massive Marc]

Capslock keyboard smashing... LOL

Poor kid.... you live in a sad world. Got torpor?

Got Torpor literally 20 minutes after you faggotize your way out of a sale. GJ homo.

[Diggles 2.0]

The only version of MQ that can be feasibly used on P99 without immediately getting you banned is pretty much worthless on Blue except to know the exact time you can come back from a med break.

[radditsu]

Either way he should at LEAST get the same ban as the Great Anthrax VP ban of 2012. I say at least because Eccezan did it intentionally, and big Anthrax did it with 5 seconds left on the timer.

2 weeks to a month would be satisfactory to this injustice. If MQ is found changed to permanent of course. Also TMO must surrender all its Trak teeth and Shaman gear to me.

[bouncerr 2.0]

Wow. What a bunch of cheaters.

Lol this guy hasn't even been playing everquest a year and becomes officer of FE. Wonder how :rolleyes:

[Massive Marc]

I'll let the frenchman continue to work that ass. You can tell him more about your girlfriend/mom/dentist whatever the fuck bullshit you make up. tell us more about how conservatives have a mental disorder.

[Frieza_Prexus]

I agree with you.. however in this scenario Eccezan the accused has already admitted to ninja looting another guilds mob. No matter what the outcome, he was wrong.

Ninja looting requires intent to defraud and dispossess the rightful owner. If it is proven that Eccezan looted the items with such intent knowing full-well that he had no possible rights to them, then yes, he would deserve a ban.

This makes you sound incredibly naive. :(
For all you know, Eccezan is platlord and is making a living off hacking and selling platinum. Not likely given his intelligence level, but for all you know it's a distinct possibility.

I am naive for invoking decision theory and reasoned analysis yet you yourself say "not likely." How is this any different? For the third time, I deny no outcomes, I only claim that a specific outcome appears far more likely in my eyes. Perhaps you should parse your own thoughts before you inadvertently declare yourself naive again.

[Diggles 2.0]

Lol this guy hasn't even been playing everquest a year and becomes officer of FE. Wonder how :rolleyes:

a majority of FE's force is a bunch of newbies that tried applying to TMO while still in full banded and got denied.

[falkun]

So Ecc admits to looting guts and is on this afternoon? Where's the Anthrax treatment for a 2 week suspension for ninja looting?

[Enygma]

Unless wizard was banned I fail to see the point of this thread.

Eccezan logged in today... weird that he cheated and didn't get banned for it? or flagged WTF!

[Jarnauga]

I'll let the frenchman continue to work that ass.

my reputation precedes me.

[Massive Marc]

Ninja looting requires intent to defraud and dispossess the rightful owner. If it is proven that Eccezan looted the items with such intent knowing full-well that he had no possible rights to them, then yes, he would deserve a ban.



I am naive for invoking decision theory and reasoned analysis yet you yourself say "not likely." How is this any different? For the third time, I deny no outcomes, I only claim that a specific outcome appears far more likely in my eyes. Perhaps you should parse your own thoughts before you inadvertently declare yourself naive again.

Here is my Decision Theory:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/3760850766_6d891c1ef2.jpg?v=0


+


http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/08/pile-of-money-1.jpg

=

http://www.nwk.lt/cs/images/59unbanned1.png

[Godefroi]

Lol this guy hasn't even been playing everquest a year and becomes officer of FE. Wonder how :rolleyes:

Banned MQer/RMTer scum posts in a banned MQer thread.

GG :D

[bouncerr 2.0]

a majority of FE's force is a bunch of newbies that tried applying to TMO while still in full banded and got denied.

I know. Slaves of shinko scavenging loot when he doesn't need it.

[Alarti0001]

I'll let the frenchman continue to work that ass. You can tell him more about your girlfriend/mom/dentist whatever the fuck bullshit you make up. tell us more about how conservatives have a mental disorder.

Derp.. you hold on to grudges little boy. Run away kiddo. Conservatives don't have a mental disorder however its been scientifically proven that many conservatives have an over developed fear center in their brain.

Fear has been a very very useful thing for the human race in the past. It can just be very prohibitive in decision making in the modern world.

[Shinko]

pay up plea

[Mortiiss]

cheaters cheater cheaters cheaters cheat cheaters cheaters

[Massive Marc]

Derp.. you hold on to grudges little boy. Run away kiddo. Conservatives don't have a mental disorder however its been scientifically proven that many conservatives have an over developed fear center in their brain.

Fear has been a very very useful thing for the human race in the past. It can just be very prohibitive in decision making in the modern world.

TELL US MOAR..

[Alarti0001]

TELL US MOAR..

Add a few more things to your sig... you are rapidly turning into Harrison.

[Relapse2]

If not for MQ use (the most likely scenario here) he still deserves a ban, and TMO a raid suspension for ninja looting, which is a well-set precedent.

[Halfelfbard]

All the worked i helped with that character. And it gets banned...what the sack.

[quido]

There was no ninjalooting, dumbfucks. We held the corpse for about 15 minutes waiting to hear from the staff on FTE and eventually gave up and looted the stuff. Ephi came and made a ruling a short while later and we gladly told him who had looted what so as to make his job easier. It would be different if someone looted after being told by the staff that the kill wasn't theirs, idiots.

[Massive Marc]

Add a few more things to your sig... you are rapidly turning into Harrison.

Keep posting, one of your gems might be add one day. maybe...

[Alarti0001]

There was no ninjalooting, dumbfucks. We held the corpse for about 15 minutes waiting to hear from the staff on FTE and eventually gave up and looted the stuff. Ephi came and made a ruling a short while later and we gladly told him who had looted what so as to make his job easier. It would be different if someone looted after being told by the staff that the kill wasn't theirs, idiots.

[Alarti0001]

Keep posting, one of your gems might be add one day. maybe...

Keep repsonding, I love to rile up morons like you. =)

[Relapse2]

If not for MQ use (the most likely scenario here) he still deserves a ban, and TMO a raid suspension for ninja looting, which is a well-set precedent.[/B]

[Zeelot]

These guys are just grasping at straws now hah. Gore must've stung the ego a bit eh

[Safon]

Come on folks, act like you have some sense. With the amount of accounts tmo buys some are bound to be rotten. Until a gm says eccezan himself is guilty of using MQ, this thread is as useless as the other 50 threads involving tmo officers and FE folks chirping each other.

[Safon]

And no I am not in tmo, or FE

[Relapse2]

how many raid suspensions would it make for TmO?? 11?? 12?

[Eccezan]

There was no ninjalooting, dumbfucks. We held the corpse for about 15 minutes waiting to hear from the staff on FTE and eventually gave up and looted the stuff. Ephi came and made a ruling a short while later and we gladly told him who had looted what so as to make his job easier. It would be different if someone looted after being told by the staff that the kill wasn't theirs, idiots.

Wrong man, the encounter that this occured on was the Trak that TMO was eventually awarded the loot. It was the Trak encounter with the FE monks trying to FD ninja tag with 7 FE in zone.

So, people are making things up and its funny. Grats on your gore fail.

[Alarti0001]

These guys are just grasping at straws now hah. Gore must've stung the ego a bit eh

FE wipes to Gore with 40... DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT !!!! ARMAHGERDDD!!

Although, seriously now, it must sting the ego a bit when you are constantly self-inflating your ego, and then put to a minor challenge you fail completely.

[Relapse2]

Wrong man, the encounter that this occured on was the Trak that TMO was eventually awarded the loot. It was the Trak encounter with the FE monks trying to FD ninja tag with 7 FE in zone.

So, people are making things up and its funny. Grats on your gore fail.

grats on buying a throw away account and cheating it up to win

[Alarti0001]

how many raid suspensions would it make for TmO?? 11?? 12?

How many GM's did IB have in guild 11? 12?

[Tiggles]

These guys are just grasping at straws now hah. Gore must've stung the ego a bit eh

Stung so much the normally talkative sloan and shinko didn't want to comment on there 90% wipe with 40+ members.

[Relapse2]

How many GM's did IB have in guild 11? 12?
http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Grasping-at-Straws.jpg

[Godefroi]

So will Eccezan's get booted :D ?

[Eccezan]

grats on buying a throw away account and cheating it up to win

Grats on being white trash living in a trailor down south, losing on P99, losing on progression, being an all around douchebag irl and on the internet and trolling threads for a game and server you dont play anymore.

<3 you drunk trailor trash

[Godefroi]

Grats on being white trash living in a trailor down south, losing on P99, losing on progression, being an all around douchebag irl and on the internet and trolling threads for a game and server you dont play anymore.

<3 you drunk trailor trash

Lol Wow Relapse got you all angry and mad.

I guess it mustn't be easy to be part of the banned for MQ douche bag club lol

[Tiggles]

So will Eccezan's get booted :D ?

He did, now I'm now in charge of selling all of FE's gear to FE.

[Eccezan]

http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Grasping-at-Straws.jpg

love the new additions

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hWCsqKpp17Q/S_MV8tTvzbI/AAAAAAAAARs/MpGV6igfdFc/s1600/trailer-trash-hi-rise11.jpg

[Trollcake]

So, people are making things up and its funny. Grats on your gore fail.

Grats on your MQ flag win! Another outstanding player from TMO like Bouncerr...

http://i.imgur.com/7Rt9RTK.jpg

[Godefroi]

He did, now I'm now in charge of selling all of FE's gear to FE.

Are you in charge of finding TMO girlfriends in the p99 staff?

Damn. It's too bad Ephi is doing an awesome job and banning you cheating asses.

Too bad for you, Ephi is straight and has a wife also :D

And hum, Ephi is skinny, you like them above 300 pounds anyways

[Relapse2]

Grats on being white trash living in a trailor down south, losing on P99, losing on progression, being an all around douchebag irl and on the internet and trolling threads for a game and server you dont play anymore.

<3 you drunk trailor trash

my whistle is clean is yours? i

[Safon]

Look, you tmo folks really should just stop dignifying shit like this with a response, and stop the flaming you do yourselves as well. You are on top of the raid scene, winning (legitimately of course) should be all the message you need to send to your competition. Take the higher ground and just do your thing

[Alarti0001]

my whistle is clean is yours? i

Yes

[Eccezan]

/who all Eccezan

[ANONYMOUS] Eccezan <The Mystical Order
There are 101 players in East Commonlands.

[OMGWTF420]

I read this as.... My guild just embarrasingly wiped to Gorenaire with 40 people. During which we only managed to reduce her HP to 90%.

Must save face... quick pretend scandal!

thats a pretty weak ass fucking spin, even coming from you

jesus christ, how much clearer does this shit have to be, TMO cheats, fucking a

[Godefroi]

Grats on your MQ flag win! Another outstanding player from TMO like Bouncerr...

http://i.imgur.com/7Rt9RTK.jpg

Damn that sig haahahahahhaha

apply now to be part of the MQ circle folks !

You won't even have to track as an app, don't worry, our officers can insta know what's up ;)

www.themacroquestorder.com (http://www.themysticalorder.net)

[Eccezan]

Look, you tmo folks really should just stop dignifying shit like this with a response, and stop the flaming you do yourselves as well. You are on top of the raid scene, winning (legitimately of course) should be all the message you need to send to your competition. Take the higher ground and just do your thing

good point, these FE trolls trolling just to troll.

[Alarti0001]

Look, you tmo folks really should just stop dignifying shit like this with a response, and stop the flaming you do yourselves as well. You are on top of the raid scene, winning (legitimately of course) should be all the message you need to send to your competition. Take the higher ground and just do your thing

But the best part is the future. When Ecc is legitimized by staff that the SEQ?MQ? whatever use was prior to his purchase. I just cant wait to revisit this thread and repost all the tinhattery found here.

[Enygma]

Theres nothing really to spin here, you got banned for MQ.

correction... his CHARACTER got banned for MQ BEFORE it was purchased.

[Massive Marc]

Keep repsonding, I love to rile up morons like you. =)

the only jimmyies youre rustling is that thai boy you pay for once a week.

[Godefroi]

/who all Holyspawn

/who all Thebest

Ohhh I'm pretty curious, I'd like Ephi to log other TMO chars and see who else is MQ flagged, let the banhammer speak :D

[Safon]

thats a pretty weak ass fucking spin, even coming from you

jesus christ, how much clearer does this shit have to be, TMO cheats, fucking a

Was it eccezan or the accounts previous owner using MQ? Are you going nuts over this just because he bought an MQ flagged account?

[Enygma]

Wait a second haven't FE been advocating that Perun is going to lead their raids in VP?...

Wait... so they are inviting a KNOWN cheater to their guild to lead their raids?

So wait... why are they posting here that cheater's are SO HORRIBLE!!

I mean I think Perun and all those fags that cheated in the big IB/TR/VD/Peace Pipe/BDA suspension/delevel of 2011 should have been perma banned... but unfortunately a lot of them were Rogean's friends and got a slap on the wrist.

Either way... FE is a bunch of hypocrits.

[Eccezan]

Was it eccezan or the accounts previous owner using MQ? Are you going nuts over this just because he bought an MQ flagged account?

Of course it was the accounts previous owner.

Either this guy, or the guy who owned it before him. Notice the date sold post. =P

Level 13 epic'd halfing cleric still on account as well to verify.

https://www.project1999.org/forums/s...ad.php?t=83800

[Godefroi]

Was it eccezan or the accounts previous owner using MQ? Are you going nuts over this just because he bought an MQ flagged account?

Tell us about the other char that got logged and subsequently banned, TMO Wizard Thebest.

Discuss

[Tiggles]

Wait a second haven't FE been advocating that Perun is going to lead their raids in VP?...

Wait... so they are inviting a KNOWN cheater to their guild to lead their raids?

So wait... why are they posting here that cheater's are SO HORRIBLE!!

I mean I think Perun and all those fags that cheated in the big IB/TR/VD/Peace Pipe/BDA suspension/delevel of 2011 should have been perma banned... but unfortunately a lot of them were Rogean's friends and got a slap on the wrist.

Either way... FE is a bunch of hypocrits.

[Eccezan]

Of course it was the accounts previous owner.

Either this guy, or the guy who owned it before him. Notice the date sold post. =P

Level 13 epic'd halfing cleric still on account as well to verify.

https://www.project1999.org/forums/s...ad.php?t=83800

https://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=83800

fixed link

[Godefroi]

Wait a second haven't FE been advocating that Perun is going to lead their raids in VP?...

Wait... so they are inviting a KNOWN cheater to their guild to lead their raids?

So wait... why are they posting here that cheater's are SO HORRIBLE!!

I mean I think Perun and all those fags that cheated in the big IB/TR/VD/Peace Pipe/BDA suspension/delevel of 2011 should have been perma banned... but unfortunately a lot of them were Rogean's friends and got a slap on the wrist.

Either way... FE is a bunch of hypocrits.

Perun is a free player of p99 and GMs decided about his fate.

He isn't a member of FE and will never join FE ;)

However we might have adriana come around when things will get for real yeah, Anything to say about p99's Best monk :D ?

[Alarti0001]

the only jimmyies youre rustling is that thai boy you pay for once a week.

Lol ok kiddo go look at your previous posts ragemonster

[Relapse2]

Wait a second haven't FE been advocating that Perun is going to lead their raids in VP?...


dunno who the hell you heard this from but its lol ...PEEErun busy doing other thangs

[Alarti0001]

Perun is a free player of p99 and GMs decided about his fate.

He isn't a member of FE and will never join FE ;)

However we might have adriana come around when things will get for real yeah, Anything to say about p99's Best monk :D ?

Yep... not worried. Best PVP monk on PvE server. :D

[Relapse2]

I agree with you.. however in this scenario Eccezan the accused has already admitted to ninja looting another guilds mob. No matter what the outcome, he was wrong.

BACK ON TOPIC WHERES DAT RAID SUSPENSION

[Daldolma]

This thread is great evidence that the TMO retard squad will spin shit before they know the truth. Only Eccezan can legitimately claim that the MQ usage came before he owned the account. Nobody else has any fucking idea, but they still defend it as if it's fact.

Xasten excluded, he lawyered this shit out of the park. If the glove most likely doesn't fit, you must acquit.

[Enygma]

i'd say a ban is pretty damning evidence.

I'd say you're a fucking retard... Eccezan IS NOT banned.

[Godefroi]

I'd say you're a fucking retard... Eccezan IS NOT banned.

nobody said his wizard was banned, did anyone say that :) ? His alt Holyspawn is banned :D

Back on patrol now Sworen ;)

[49shadesofgay]

Ninja looting requires intent to defraud and dispossess the rightful owner. If it is proven that Eccezan looted the items with such intent knowing full-well that he had no possible rights to them, then yes, he would deserve a ban.



I am naive for invoking decision theory and reasoned analysis yet you yourself say "not likely." How is this any different? For the third time, I deny no outcomes, I only claim that a specific outcome appears far more likely in my eyes. Perhaps you should parse your own thoughts before you inadvertently declare yourself naive again.

You're naive for believing that someone who uses MQ gains nothing by it.

Wait a second.. wasn't it your guild that claimed that a lot of the things TR did were cheating because Perun was caught using MQ2?

You're not denying outcomes, you're just denying that Eccezan being banned means something because you feel deep down (read: youre biased) that his case will be overturned.

Meanwhile, those of us who see that he was banned take it at face value for what it is. We don't try to cover it up, or claim the "most likely" outcome is that it will be repealed just because we think so.

We see Eccezan's alt is banned, due to past/present/future whatever MQ use.

That's a fact.

[Eccezan]

*throws another bail of food into the troll feeding trough*

If a GM confirms that MQ was used on Holyspawn after I purchased the account I will personally step down as TMO Officer. (And probably stop playing the game)

I know it takes some time to confirm post's, PM's, and match IP's, just putting it out there. That is how sure I am of my innocence in this matter.

[Relapse2]

*throws another bail of food into the troll feeding trough*

If a GM confirms that MQ was used on Holyspawn after I purchased the account I will personally step down as TMO Officer. (And probably stop playing the game)

I know it takes some time to confirm post's, PM's, and match IP's, just putting it out there. That is how sure I am of my innocence in this matter.

rip in peace

[Diggles 2.0]

eccezan is being a man about it

cant say the same for the FE faggots

[Godefroi]

Yep... not worried.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6143/tajil.jpg

:D

[Enygma]

So Ecc admits to looting guts and is on this afternoon? Where's the Anthrax treatment for a 2 week suspension for ninja looting?

VP: TMO FTE'd and Killed the mob... Anthrax looted got suspended.

Trak: TMO/FE unknown FTE - TMO killed the mob because FE can't kill shit without other guilds killing it for them.

FE gets loot because they determined to have FTE... just like every other time the loot gets removed from TMO and given to FE. STFU.

[Mortiiss]

*throws another bail of food into the troll feeding trough*

If a GM confirms that MQ was used on Holyspawn after I purchased the account I will personally step down as TMO Officer. (And probably stop playing the game)

I know it takes some time to confirm post's, PM's, and match IP's, just putting it out there. That is how sure I am of my innocence in this matter.

Bye cheater.

[jkfranklin]

Is that supposed to be an insult Eccezan, Andy Griffith was 10 times the man you will ever be and would have not needed to use MQ to play a cleric.

VP: TMO FTE'd and Killed the mob... Anthrax looted got suspended.

Trak: TMO/FE unknown FTE - TMO killed the mob because FE can't kill shit without other guilds killing it for them.

FE gets loot because they determined to have FTE... just like every other time the loot gets removed from TMO and given to FE. STFU.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnxDdqhUy4_B6sLUbVk9NyJ_IR773yD tvjA92pgdNKmmUhSzm5-g

[Godefroi]

Yep... not worried.

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4468/jmnaf.jpg

[Alarti0001]

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6143/tajil.jpg

:D

I stood on a pile of corpses once too.. and I've never trained anyone. I dare you to step into VP. Shit talking only goes so far.

[49shadesofgay]

But the best part is the future. When Ecc is legitimized by staff that the SEQ?MQ? whatever use was prior to his purchase. I just cant wait to revisit this thread and repost all the tinhattery found here.

Even so, then the question would arise: why would GM's randomly ban someone for something they did long in the past?

This shit stinks, and everyone involved is going to come out of the other end smelling even worse, regardless of the outcome. :)

[Godefroi]

Back to Airport toilets now Alarti :)

You can perhaps get hook'd up by your 350 pounds TMO friend Quickfingers about how to go down on a fat GM RMTer cunt to get your officer buddy's alt unbanned ;)

But I'll sadly announce you that the P99 staff is clean and doing an awesome job.

[Alarti0001]

Even so, then the question would arise: why would GM's randomly ban someone for something they did long in the past?

This shit stinks, and everyone involved is going to come out of the other end smelling even worse, regardless of the outcome. :)

Ask bouncerr or has the memory of this community retarded this much?

[Alarti0001]

Back to Airport toilets now Alarti :)

You can perhaps get hook'd up by your 350 pounds TMO friend Quickfingers about how to go down on a fat GM RMTer cunt to get your officer buddy's alt unbanned ;)

But I'll sadly announce you that the P99 staff is clean and doing an awesome job.

How much tinfoil do you go through in a week?

[49shadesofgay]

I stood on a pile of corpses once too.. and I've never trained anyone. I dare you to step into VP. Shit talking only goes so far.

That's not the french guy dumbass, that's Adriana. Everyone on this forum knows that he doesn't just stand on corpses, that he trained you and your guild successfully in VP.

You're frothing.

[Thana8088]

Even so, then the question would arise: why would GM's randomly ban someone for something they did long in the past?

This shit stinks, and everyone involved is going to come out of the other end smelling even worse, regardless of the outcome. :)


Because that's how it's done. I am sure you were around when Bouncerr was banned for "SEQ use" only AFTER he was first banned for selling an account that wasn't his.

I am surprised by your question, really.

[Eccezan]

Even so, then the question would arise: why would GM's randomly ban someone for something they did long in the past?

This shit stinks, and everyone involved is going to come out of the other end smelling even worse, regardless of the outcome. :)

Not really, given the amount of selling accounts that happens on the server -- this shit will happen again in the future. Only reason its an issue here is because it happened to me. I really do feel bad for the average player who saves up the platinum, purchases an account then gets banned for something the previous owner used.

This can be solved by banning all MQ flagged characters immediately as soon as the usage happens. But when enacting this, you are left with dealing with all the people already playing accounts that are flagged that they purchased. Which I would lead to a huge problem for GM's to sift through the legitimate and illegitimate claims.

So its kind of a catch 22.

[Godefroi]

I stood on a pile of corpses once too.. and I've never trained anyone. I dare you to step into VP. Shit talking only goes so far.

I was there 15 minutes ago, made Zeelot camp on his pocket mage. what's up baby where were you with your shitty Wizard :confused: ?

Did you intend to die, training yourself like at trak's ledge :D ?

[49shadesofgay]

Not really, given the amount of selling accounts that happens on the server -- this shit will happen again in the future. Only reason its an issue here is because it happened to me. I really do feel bad for the average player who saves up the platinum, purchases an account then gets banned for something the previous owner used.

This can be solved by banning all MQ flagged characters immediately as soon as the usage happens. But when enacting this, you are left with dealing with all the people already playing accounts that are flagged that they purchased. Which I would lead to a huge problem for GM's to sift through the legitimate and illegitimate claims.

So its kind of a catch 22.

I would say it's the risk taken when buying accounts, something that should not be encouraged.

[Diggles 2.0]

uthgaard is seriously bipolar

sucking tiggles dick while riding the FE spin train after a few days of trolling FE

[Hailto]

TMO in full damage control mode, Alarti had to leave work early to help manage this situation.

[Godefroi]

TMO in full damage control mode, Alarti had to leave work early to help manage this situation.

Actually Alarti's job in his company is irrelevant, hence the time he can spend here at work :)

[Frieza_Prexus]

You're naive for believing that someone who uses MQ gains nothing by it.

Wait a second.. wasn't it your guild that claimed that a lot of the things TR did were cheating because Perun was caught using MQ2?

You're not denying outcomes, you're just denying that Eccezan being banned means something because you feel deep down (read: youre biased) that his case will be overturned..

MQ clearly grants gains. I submit, however, that its utilization would produce a long-term net loss in utility. Thus, I find no logical motivation for its use here. Of course, human stupidity knows no bounds, and I freely admit that it is still well within the realm of possibility.

Yes, my guild members claim(ed) much when Perun was banned. And if you wish to take the time to search my post history, you'll notice that I generally take a consistent stance as I have here. I am not my guild. I speak for no one else, nor do anyone else speak for me.

Eccezan being banned clearly means that there's a chance he's guilty. I take no issue with that notion. If he's guilty, I'll support a ban myself. I'll go full blown Stannis Baratheon and mete out copious amounts deontological justice. Here, I am simply pointing out what I feel is blatant troll-opportunism. (Trollportunism? Opportrollism?) Like you, I am extremely interested in knowing the timestamp on the MQ flag. We would all find that incredibly informative.

[Thana8088]

I would say it's the risk taken when buying accounts, something that should not be encouraged.

It is definitely encouraged here. All you have to do is see how the GMs protect the WTS account threads in EC Tunnel forums.

Hopefully they will offer a "Check that toon for SEQ flagging" service soon. I wonder if it will cost any $$........

[Relapse2]

i wonder why they wont just ban all flagged MQ2 accounts...probably will even the playing field with Tmo n FE with 20% of Tmo gone

[Godefroi]

MQ clearly grants gains. I submit, however, that its utilization would produce a long-term net loss in utility. Thus, I find no logical motivation for its use here. Of course, human stupidity knows no bounds, and I freely admit that it is still well within the realm of possibility.

Yes, my guild members claim(ed) much when Perun was banned. And if you wish to take the time to search my post history, you'll notice that I generally take a consistent stance as I have here. I am not my guild. I speak for no one else, nor do anyone else speak for me.

Eccezan being banned clearly means that there's a chance he's guilty. I take no issue with that notion. If he's guilty, I'll support a ban myself. I'll go full blown Stannis Baratheon and mete out copious amounts deontological justice. Here, I am simply pointing out what I feel is blatant troll-opportunism. (Trollportunism? Opportrollism?) Like you, I am extremely interested in knowing the timestamp on the MQ flag. We would all find that incredibly informative.

Could we get time stamps on Thebest, is he gonna claim he bought his account too ?

So btw, all that pharm pp was to buy accounts 'cause you guys are too bad at level themselves :( ?

When ever you are bored you just run MQ on them 'cause GOSH FE is horrible they aren't challenging us VP after 4 months after their creation ?

[Godefroi]

It is definitely encouraged here. All you have to do is see how the GMs protect the WTS account threads in EC Tunnel forums.

Hopefully they will offer a "Check that toon for SEQ flagging" service soon. I wonder if it will cost any $$........

I wonder why other shit you guys will spin for Thebest, was it a bought account aswell ?

[jkfranklin]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnxDdqhUy4_B6sLUbVk9NyJ_IR773yD tvjA92pgdNKmmUhSzm5-ghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnxDdqhUy4_B6sLUbVk9NyJ_IR773yD tvjA92pgdNKmmUhSzm5-ghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnxDdqhUy4_B6sLUbVk9NyJ_IR773yD tvjA92pgdNKmmUhSzm5-ghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnxDdqhUy4_B6sLUbVk9NyJ_IR773yD tvjA92pgdNKmmUhSzm5-ghttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnxDdqhUy4_B6sLUbVk9NyJ_IR773yD tvjA92pgdNKmmUhSzm5-g

[Thana8088]

I wonder why other shit you guys will spin for Thebest, was it a bought account aswell ?

I don't rightly know since I am not Thebest. =D

I do know that if the mage account I bought is flagged, I am gonna be mad.

YES I SAID IT. MAD.

[Alarti0001]

That's not the french guy dumbass, that's Adriana. Everyone on this forum knows that he doesn't just stand on corpses, that he trained you and your guild successfully in VP.

You're frothing.

So successfully they IB is gone.... ya Plus likely a hoshkar wipe

[jkfranklin]

I don't rightly know since I am not Thebest. =D

I do know that if the mage account I bought is flagged, I am gonna be mad.

YES I SAID IT. MAD.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnxDdqhUy4_B6sLUbVk9NyJ_IR773yD tvjA92pgdNKmmUhSzm5-g

[Servellious]

I actually highly doubt eccezan used MQ i just dont think he is that stupid, now if it was Alarti thats different. This could all be prevented if all flagged accounts just got an instant irreversible ban, instead of him possibly purchasing a previously flagged account. But for some reason that is not possibly on this server.

Can we end all this drama and perma ban cheating cock sucking game genie losers.

[49shadesofgay]

MQ clearly grants gains. I submit, however, that its utilization would produce a long-term net loss in utility. Thus, I find no logical motivation for its use here. Of course, human stupidity knows no bounds, and I freely admit that it is still well within the realm of possibility.

Yes, my guild members claim(ed) much when Perun was banned. And if you wish to take the time to search my post history, you'll notice that I generally take a consistent stance as I have here. I am not my guild. I speak for no one else, nor do anyone else speak for me.

Eccezan being banned clearly means that there's a chance he's guilty. I take no issue with that notion. If he's guilty, I'll support a ban myself. I'll go full blown Stannis Baratheon and mete out copious amounts deontological justice. Here, I am simply pointing out what I feel is blatant troll-opportunism. (Trollportunism? Opportrollism?) Like you, I am extremely interested in knowing the timestamp on the MQ flag. We would all find that incredibly informative.

You sound far too intelligent to associate yourself with a guild as notorious as TMO.

You can claim that your opinions are your own and that those of whom you associate with are likewise not a reflection upon you or your guild as a whole, that is simply not how things work, or how you will be perceived.

In the eyes of every single person who does not know you personally (the majority) you are a TMO member, your words represent your guild, and the things said by those whom you willingly choose to associate with represent the guild as well.

When someone mentions the guild they are either speaking of it or for it. Not individually.

It's a shame that intelligent people such as yourself choose to ruin what otherwise solid reputations you may have due to associating with a collective of people who do not share or, indeed as this very thread shows, have your best interests and those of the collective group at hand.

The Alarti's, Autotunes, and godefreis of the world need be outcast, not embraced.

[Alarti0001]

I was there 15 minutes ago, made Zeelot camp on his pocket mage. what's up baby where were you with your shitty Wizard :confused: ?

Did you intend to die, training yourself like at trak's ledge :D ?

Why would I bother training you. Id prefer to watch you wipe. Its not like you guys have a chance at VP dragons.

[Enygma]

how many raid suspensions would it make for TmO?? 11?? 12?

2... one for Zee aoe owning TR back in the day in KC...

this would be the second legit one... the other one was handed out by Amelinda who was bribed by TR with real money to not ban all their RMT transactions.

[Alarti0001]

You sound far too intelligent to associate yourself with a guild as notorious as TMO.

You can claim that your opinions are your own and that those of whom you associate with are likewise not a reflection upon you or your guild as a whole, that is simply not how things work, or how you will be perceived.

In the eyes of every single person who does not know you personally (the majority) you are a TMO member, your words represent your guild, and the things said by those whom you willingly choose to associate with represent the guild as well.

When someone mentions the guild they are either speaking of it or for it. Not individually.

It's a shame that intelligent people such as yourself choose to ruin what otherwise solid reputations you may have due to associating with a collective of people who do not share or, indeed as this very thread shows, have your best interests and those of the collective group at hand.

The Alarti's, Autotunes, and godefreis of the world need be outcast, not embraced.

Lol uhoh an idiot is deciding who is intelligent and who isn't.

Also, how can you comment on someones character with a posting name like yours. Stop frothing Uthgaard.

[49shadesofgay]

So successfully they IB is gone.... ya Plus likely a hoshkar wipe

I told you to stop frothing and you come back with.. this?

What the fuck are you even attempting to communicate? It is completely unintelligible, please step away from your keyboard and take some time to cool down.

[Frieza_Prexus]

You sound far too intelligent to associate yourself with a guild as notorious as TMO.

You can claim that your opinions are your own and that those of whom you associate with are likewise not a reflection upon you or your guild as a whole, that is simply not how things work, or how you will be perceived.

In the eyes of every single person who does not know you personally (the majority) you are a TMO member, your words represent your guild, and the things said by those whom you willingly choose to associate with represent the guild as well.

When someone mentions the guild they are either speaking of it or for it. Not individually.

It's a shame that intelligent people such as yourself choose to ruin what otherwise solid reputations you may have due to associating with a collective of people who do not share or, indeed as this very thread shows, have your best interests and those of the collective group at hand.

The Alarti's, Autotunes, and godefreis of the world need be outcast, not embraced.

I never claimed that my actions or the actions of others do not impact me. I simply made a statement the I speak alone. Do not presume to put words in my mouth. Clearly, I, and others, care a great deal about our personal reputations. Every member of this organization leaves his or her own indelible mark upon the gestalt that is TMO. And, each individual member has imputed upon them that very same collective representation.

Has it occurred to you that I post in the matters for those precise reasons?

[quido]

I will bet anyone ANY amount of plat that Holyspawn's ban gets reversed. 100k, a million, whatever.

Any takers?



ITT: French non-factor who has never shared a picture calls others fat. GG

[Alarti0001]

I told you to stop frothing and you come back with.. this?

What the fuck are you even attempting to communicate? It is completely unintelligible, please step away from your keyboard and take some time to cool down.

Lol another tard who thinks his idiotic ways have any affect on my emotional state. I am not posting anything too hard to understand.

If you need me to break down my posts let me know. Ill give you this freebie. Adriana's training did nothing to stop TMO and that was when they had full IB backup.

Adriana coming back to train will again do nothing to stop TMO.

For second part was very clearly stating that it was likely a hoshkar wipe maybe even coupled with a train. IB could not kill a VP dragon with TMO training. TMO did kill dragons with IB trains.

Please come back when you have a point worth spewing.

[Servellious]

I will bet anyone ANY amount of plat that Holyspawn's ban gets reversed. 100k, a million, whatever.

Any takers?



ITT: French non-factor who has never shared a picture calls others fat. GG

Its TMO jeremy no one is gonna bet against gm's ruling in your favor come on.

[49shadesofgay]

I never claimed that my actions or the actions of others do not impact me. I simply made a statement the I speak alone. Do not presume to put words in my mouth. Clearly, I, and others, care a great deal about our personal reputations. Every member of this organization leaves his or her own indelible mark upon the gestalt that is TMO. And, each individual member has imputed upon them that very same collective representation.

Has it occurred to you that I post in the matters for those precise reasons?

If this is truly the reason that you partake in such lively discussions as these, then you have my utmost sympathy and pity. The only presumption I can make regarding this chance encounter is that you yearn for the day with which you can unbind yourself from such uncouth individuals as the man with the George Clooney avatar who is currently typing inchorent rubbish at another human being over the internet.

If my presumption is incorrect, feel free to carry on as usual, and by all means; enjoy!

[Thana8088]

If this is truly the reason that you partake in such lively discussions as these, then you have my utmost sympathy and pity. The only presumption I can make regarding this chance encounter is that you yearn for the day with which you can unbind yourself from such uncouth individuals as the man with the George Clooney avatar who is currently typing inchorent rubbish at another human being over the internet.

If my presumption is incorrect, feel free to carry on as usual, and by all means; enjoy!

And exactly why are YOU here again?

[quido]

Its TMO jeremy no one is gonna bet against gm's ruling in your favor come on.

What a cop out!

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/jeremysmirk.jpg

[Ravager]

One Jillion Plat!

[49shadesofgay]

Lol another tard who thinks his idiotic ways have any affect on my emotional state. I am not posting anything too hard to understand.

If you need me to break down my posts let me know. Ill give you this freebie. Adriana's training did nothing to stop TMO and that was when they had full IB backup.

Adriana coming back to train will again do nothing to stop TMO.

For second part was very clearly stating that it was likely a hoshkar wipe maybe even coupled with a train. IB could not kill a VP dragon with TMO training. TMO did kill dragons with IB trains.

Please come back when you have a point worth spewing.

Since you offered, please translate this:

So successfully they IB is gone.... ya Plus likely a hoshkar wipe

Are you claiming that you wiped to Hoshkar at the rock in the lava to the left of entrance? Are you claiming that adrianna trained you so successfully that the corpses in the picture are dead? Are you claiming that Adrianna has never been proven to train anyone(something we all know is false)?

What in the bloody hell are you attempting to say?

[Triangle]

I asked Nilbog about trading accounts and what would happen if the account I was trading for was flagged to be banned or something of that sort. His response:
We do not support nor encourage trading accounts. It is "frowned upon", but not illegal or against rules.

The risk is solely on you for this reason.

If holyspawn gets unbanned it would be against Nilbog's philosophy.

[Relapse2]

2... one for Zee aoe owning TR back in the day in KC...

this would be the second legit one... the other one was handed out by Amelinda who was bribed by TR with real money to not ban all their RMT transactions.

TMO has only had 2 raid suspensions? didnt you guys get one in sky after IB left ? pretty sure you *****s have now passed DA on raid suspensions quit telling lies dawg

[Alarti0001]

This makes you sound incredibly naive. :(
For all you know, Eccezan is platlord and is making a living off hacking and selling platinum. Not likely given his intelligence level, but for all you know it's a distinct possibility.



If this is truly the reason that you partake in such lively discussions as these, then you have my utmost sympathy and pity. The only presumption I can make regarding this chance encounter is that you yearn for the day with which you can unbind yourself from such uncouth individuals as the man with the George Clooney avatar who is currently typing inchorent rubbish at another human being over the internet.

If my presumption is incorrect, feel free to carry on as usual, and by all means; enjoy!

LOL So sayeth the anon troll. Please tell us more about rubbish.

[Alarti0001]

Since you offered, please translate this:



Are you claiming that you wiped to Hoshkar at the rock in the lava to the left of entrance? Are you claiming that adrianna trained you so successfully that the corpses in the picture are dead? Are you claiming that Adrianna has never been proven to train anyone(something we all know is false)?

What in the bloody hell are you attempting to say?

That the picture proves nothing? Derp. This is pretty hard for you I bet.

[Alarti0001]

TMO has only had 2 raid suspensions? didnt you guys get one in sky after IB left ? pretty sure you *****s have now passed DA on raid suspensions quit telling lies dawg

Im still amazing IB got suspended at all with Xzerion/Cyrius/Hobby/Ambrotos/Amelinda all being in your guild or in your pocket.

[49shadesofgay]

That the picture proves nothing? Derp. This is pretty hard for you I bet.

Why does that particular picture upset you so much?

[Alarti0001]

Why does that particular picture upset you so much?

Doesn't upset me at all. Your ignorance is a little worrisome however.

[49shadesofgay]

If it does not upset you, then why do you try so hard to disprove it?

Please help me understand your function.

[Diggles 2.0]

What a cop out!

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/jeremysmirk.jpg

Jeremy for Pope


http://pcm-tv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Jeremy-Irons.jpg

[Enygma]

So btw, all that pharm pp was to buy accounts 'cause you guys are too bad at level themselves :( ?

?

I level all my chars... I agree however that people who buy chars tend to be bad at the chars they buy.

[Enygma]

TMO has only had 2 raid suspensions? didnt you guys get one in sky after IB left ? pretty sure you *****s have now passed DA on raid suspensions quit telling lies dawg

cmon bro... you're thinking when they tried to suspend DA for getting FTE on Dojorn because all of the sudden Dojorn was made into a 15 man on the spawn rule out of no where by Rogean in order to give the loot to IB.

I think Sentenza might have sniped something in Sky once but he got suspended not TMO.

[Relapse2]

nope BDA got TMO raid suspended and they went about sharing all the spawns with the rest of the server i think even helping other guilds kill mobs they never could have otherwise was a pretty good effort at being nice. That is just 1 account i can think of TMO has the most raid suspension of any guild ever on the P99's history

[eqmaze]

TMO has most everything good and bad lol

[Alarti0001]

If it does not upset you, then why do you try so hard to disprove it?

Please help me understand your function.

Not everyone is motivated by emotion. I am motivated by truth and reason.

[Enygma]

nope BDA got TMO raid suspended and they went about sharing all the spawns with the rest of the server i think even helping other guilds kill mobs they never could have otherwise was a pretty good effort at being nice. That is just 1 account i can think of TMO has the most raid suspension of any guild ever on the P99's history

I do recall this... but I can't remember why it happened?? Or who issued the suspension.

[quido]

Relapsee I wonder sometimes what could have been...


What if you hadn't flipped out in Ascension guild chat calling everyone ******s because you were mad?

What if you hadn't claimed the guild you were about to team up with was total trash?

What if you hadn't defected to the reigning (and cheating) overlords because you have no faith and would rather wallow in a sense of undeserved pride (like your new pals)?

What if you hadn't found your new 'home' destroyed by the brutal ass-fucking that the guild you once disparaged so gladly handed out?


.... could you love me then?

[Kevynne]

Look, you tmo folks really should just stop dignifying shit like this with a response, and stop the flaming you do yourselves as well. You are on top of the raid scene, winning (legitimately of course) should be all the message you need to send to your competition. Take the higher ground and just do your thing

this^
Forceful Entry jsut wants a chance at VP and will take down anyone at this point.
I was in FE for a week after my guild merged into them. They guild removed Thunda because she had to leave mid raid because her kid split his head and she took him to the hospital. FE so high on pixels it's scary.
(not all FE is bad though. the former Chaos/Acyrid members are all fine)

[Jimes]

Not everyone is motivated by emotion. I am motivated by truth and reason.

You are motivated by wanting to sound like a junior philosopher in every post. I swear you can't type a fucking post without spitting out some vocab you learned this semester in your phil101 class.

[bouncerr 2.0]

You're naive for believing that someone who uses MQ gains nothing by it.

Please tell me one good thing a version of old vanilla macro quest does. Please. You can't use any good plugins for it like the more present state of eq live. And honestly there isn't any good macros.

[quido]

What can you actually do with MQ here without getting immediately banned?

[Tasslehofp99]

Big bouncer, hacking expert.
Looks like you were right bout one thing, you weren't the only tmo member who cheats.

[Hailto]

this^
Forceful Entry jsut wants a chance at VP and will take down anyone at this point.
I was in FE for a week after my guild merged into them. They guild removed Thunda because she had to leave mid raid because her kid split his head and she took him to the hospital. FE so high on pixels it's scary.
(not all FE is bad though. the former Chaos/Acyrid members are all fine)

There is literally no way that was the shole reason Thunda was removed. Quit being a fucking moron. Or better yet, i have a bridge to sell you.

[bouncerr 2.0]

Big bouncer, hacking expert.
Looks like you were right bout one thing, you weren't the only tmo member who cheats.

Lol I know more people in your guild that cheats than tmo. Let's not get started on the boxers. I could care less about ethier tho ;)

[Relapse2]

What if you hadn't flipped out in Ascension guild chat calling everyone ******s because you were mad?


wrong i said it once in guild chat and Bigslip started flying off the handle and well i thought i would keep at it and i did till he guild removed so nope i was never mad just having a druken laugh at his outrage

[Kevynne]

well it sure did seem like it.
No other reason was givin and she stopped playing( or at least stopped playing Thunda) I remember asking the people in vent why she got booted besides rl issues and everyone was silent.

[Relapse2]

NEED SUM HIGH QUALITY SWAMP LOGS JEREMY

[Tiggles]

this^
Forceful Entry jsut wants a chance at VP and will take down anyone at this point.
I was in FE for a week after my guild merged into them. They guild removed Thunda because she had to leave mid raid because her kid split his head and she took him to the hospital. FE so high on pixels it's scary.
(not all FE is bad though. the former Chaos/Acyrid members are all fine)

Wow you boot a loyal player because she has to tend to her hurt kid?

Thats fucked up but what do you expect with man children like Sloan and Shinko running your guild (into the ground).

How can the average good player of FE accept this kind of shit?

[quido]

wrong i said it once in guild chat and Bigslip started flying off the handle and well i thought i would keep at it and i did till he guild removed so nope i was never mad just having a druken laugh at his outrage

That's pretty easy to say now! I have the screenshots still tho...

Yah I'm sure u were just trying to troll someone and actually aren't a dumbfuck. Now roleplay Eashan for a minute here and tell us how rich you are because a million plat in gear for $400. Grats Relapsee, you make less per hour than every illegal alien in the United States.

[Hurley]

I lost my arms in a car accident and was gkicked.

[Hailto]

Wow you boot a loyal player because she has to tend to her hurt kid?

Thats fucked up but what do you expect with man children like Sloan and Shinko running your guild (into the ground).

How can the average good player of FE accept this kind of shit?

You expect people to believe that someone got removed from FE because their kid had an accident mid raid, and that was the only factor? Lol.

[kotton05]

Wow you boot a loyal player because she has to tend to her hurt kid?

Thats fucked up but what do you expect with man children like Sloan and Shinko running your guild (into the ground).

How can the average good player of FE accept this kind of shit?

far from the truth, tiggles n bits keep trying

[Doors]

Not surprised.

[Tiggles]

Not surprised.

[Relapse2]

That's pretty easy to say now! I have the screenshots still tho...

Yah I'm sure u were just trying to troll someone and actually aren't a dumbfuck. Now roleplay Eashan for a minute here and tell us how rich you are because a million plat in gear for $400. Grats Relapsee, you make less per hour than every illegal alien in the United States.

roleplaying Eashan is easy here goes my attempt.. Thx for the $$ TMO

[Alarti0001]

You are motivated by wanting to sound like a junior philosopher in every post. I swear you can't type a fucking post without spitting out some vocab you learned this semester in your phil101 class.

How big is your diction?

[Diggles 2.0]

Not surprised.

http://i.imgur.com/4iZBIZ2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/imJnQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2KDLYlA.jpg

[kotton05]

How big is your diction?

LOL

[arsenalpow]

TMO was raid suspended for blatantly kiting gorg in sky fraps+screenshots+logs

[Alarti0001]

TMO was raid suspended for blatantly kiting gorg in sky fraps+screenshots+logs

Remember which person was kiting? I have a feeling.

[bouncerr 2.0]

TMO was raid suspended for blatantly kiting gorg in sky fraps+screenshots+logs

Still giving only the good loot to officers? Wouldn't surprise me as I've heard and seen many complaints.

[arsenalpow]

Remember which person was kiting? I have a feeling.

it was sentenza, but he was kiting it for the benefit of your raid so you could make a sirran to assist in killing an efreeti or something, shit was calculated

you can spin it however you want but the clear cut facts are sentenza fucked up and your guild paid a hefty price, obviously he didn't learn his lesson because he's been suspended 2 more times since...

[arsenalpow]

Still giving only the good loot to officers? Wouldn't surprise me as I've heard and seen many complaints.

yes, only officers get loot in BDA

[Diggles 2.0]

BDA houses KNOWN rmters and fails to do anything about it

[arsenalpow]

it's cute that you think doors RMTs when we've already had a conversation with Sirken about it and the incessant attempts at trash his rep, go fuck yourself

[Alarti0001]

it was sentenza, but he was kiting it for the benefit of your raid so you could make a sirran to assist in killing an efreeti or something, shit was calculated

you can spin it however you want but the clear cut facts are sentenza fucked up and your guild paid a hefty price, obviously he didn't learn his lesson because he's been suspended 2 more times since...

Forgive me If I don't trust your version of clear cut facts. Especially considering your many mistakes in indentifying facts in the past.

[Alarti0001]

it's cute that you think doors RMTs when we've already had a conversation with Sirken about it and the incessant attempts at trash his rep, go fuck yourself

What you control the monopoly of tinhatting around these parts?