Is Zeelot still casual?

[49shadesofgay]

I only ask because of semi-recent quotes that can be attributed to him on these very forums, yet he has been posting a lot lately, and I see that FE has all but claimed VS as their own, as well as taken the lions share of the last 5 or so Trakanons.

So, what is it?

[49shadesofgay]

I'm also curious to see how TMO's competition is feeling.

Do you feel like you've gained a foothold + morale?

[Nips]

Do you have a crush on him or something?

[49shadesofgay]

I have a thing for up and coming law men.

[Zeelot]

You caught me! I am actually playing a bit more now because we finally have another guild to play around with and keep me entertained. Now we just need more action in VP.

[Alarti0001]

I only ask because of semi-recent quotes that can be attributed to him on these very forums, yet he has been posting a lot lately, and I see that FE has all but claimed VS as their own, as well as taken the lions share of the last 5 or so Trakanons.

So, what is it?

You must explain to me how 2/5 is a lion's share of Trakanons. I am curious about your mathss

[Godefroi]

You must explain to me how 2/5 is a lion's share of Trakanons. I am curious about your mathss

Considering 0 VP gear

Considering 4 months of existence.

it's a pretty big chunk

hey :

:D

[Zeelot]

Here's the scoreboard of how TMO's been faring for 10 days or so I've been playing a bit more, for those curious! In this list all the kills marked as attempts were results of guilds on spawn/socking situation. Good times!

02/11/13 Hoshkar
02/10/13 Trakanon Attempt
02/10/13 Talendor
02/09/13 Lady Vox
02/09/13 Cazic Thule
02/09/13 Dracoliche
02/09/13 Hand of Veeshan
02/09/13 Overseer of Air
02/09/13 Noble Djorn Attempt
02/08/13 VS attempt
02/07/13 Xygoz
02/07/13 Nexona
02/07/13 Trakanon
02/07/13 PharaDar
02/06/13 Dracoliche
02/06/13 Severilous
02/05/13 Gorenaire
02/04/13 Lord Nagafen
02/04/13 Druushk
02/04/13 Silverwing
02/03/13 Trakanon
02/03/13 Dracoliche
02/02/13 Plane of Sky Sisters
02/02/13 Plane of Sky Bees
02/02/13 Hand of Veeshan
02/02/13 Overseer of Air
02/02/13 Noble Dojorn
02/02/13 VS Attempt
02/01/13 Trakanon
02/01/13 Talendor
02/01/13 Lady Vox
02/01/13 Hoshkar
02/01/13 Xygoz
01/31/13 Faydedar Attempt
01/31/13 Cazic Thule
01/31/13 Dracoliche
01/31/13 Nexona
01/31/13 PharaDar
01/30/13 Gorenaire

[Loly Taa]

But Zee! We only got 34 out of the 39 targets we attempted!

That's only like 80%! Oh noes!

[Alarti0001]

Considering 0 VP gear

Considering 4 months of existence.

it's a pretty big chunk

hey :

:D

However, lion's share is explicitly the greater chunk. Stop golfing from the junior handicap.

[Alarti0001]

But Zee! We only got 34 out of the 39 targets we attempted!

That's only like 80%! Oh noes!

87% for osterity.

[Godefroi]

Here's the scoreboard of how TMO's been faring for 10 days or so I've been playing a bit more, for those curious! In this list all the kills marked as attempts were results of guilds on spawn/socking situation. Good times!

02/10/13 Trakanon Attempt
02/09/13 Cazic Thule
02/09/13 Dracoliche
02/09/13 Noble Djorn Attempt
02/08/13 VS attempt
02/07/13 Trakanon
02/06/13 Dracoliche
02/06/13 Severilous
02/04/13 Lord Nagafen
02/03/13 Trakanon
02/03/13 Dracoliche
02/02/13 Noble Dojorn
02/02/13 VS Attempt
02/01/13 Trakanon
01/31/13 Faydedar Attempt
01/31/13 Cazic Thule
01/31/13 Dracoliche


Removed VP and what we don't track.

Mad props work in CT ;)

Need to work on VS guys.

you're welcome.

[Zeelot]

Hang on let me edit this list so it makes my guild not looks so bad.

Fixed that for you

[Godefroi]

I love to beef up my kills list with mobs my rival guild are not contesting

ftfy :D

[Hailto]

Zeelot confirmed most arrogant person on the server.

[Loly Taa]

Ohnoes, we're down to 14 out of 17?

THE HORROR!

[Hailto]

Ohnoes, we're down to 14 out of 17?

THE HORROR!

lrn2count

[Alarti0001]

Removed VP and what we don't track.

Mad props work in CT ;)

Need to work on VS guys.

you're welcome.

You just added lies. We saw you trying to pull tal.

Dont be dumb... i know its hard for you.

[49shadesofgay]

Here's the scoreboard of how TMO's been faring for 10 days or so I've been playing a bit more, for those curious! In this list all the kills marked as attempts were results of guilds on spawn/socking situation. Good times!

02/11/13 Hoshkar
02/10/13 Trakanon Attempt
02/10/13 Talendor
02/09/13 Lady Vox
02/09/13 Cazic Thule
02/09/13 Dracoliche
02/09/13 Hand of Veeshan
02/09/13 Overseer of Air
02/09/13 Noble Djorn Attempt
02/08/13 VS attempt
02/07/13 Xygoz
02/07/13 Nexona
02/07/13 Trakanon
02/07/13 PharaDar
02/06/13 Dracoliche
02/06/13 Severilous
02/05/13 Gorenaire
02/04/13 Lord Nagafen
02/04/13 Druushk
02/04/13 Silverwing
02/03/13 Trakanon
02/03/13 Dracoliche
02/02/13 Plane of Sky Sisters
02/02/13 Plane of Sky Bees
02/02/13 Hand of Veeshan
02/02/13 Overseer of Air
02/02/13 Noble Dojorn
02/02/13 VS Attempt
02/01/13 Trakanon
02/01/13 Talendor
02/01/13 Lady Vox
02/01/13 Hoshkar
02/01/13 Xygoz
01/31/13 Faydedar Attempt
01/31/13 Cazic Thule
01/31/13 Dracoliche
01/31/13 Nexona
01/31/13 PharaDar
01/30/13 Gorenaire

Godefreieieeifrench does bring up a rather interesting argument with removing VP from the list, so I went ahead and took care of that:

02/10/13 Trakanon Attempt
02/10/13 Talendor
02/09/13 Lady Vox
02/09/13 Cazic Thule
02/09/13 Dracoliche
02/09/13 Hand of Veeshan
02/09/13 Overseer of Air
02/09/13 Noble Djorn Attempt
02/08/13 VS attempt
02/07/13 Trakanon
02/06/13 Dracoliche
02/06/13 Severilous
02/05/13 Gorenaire
02/04/13 Lord Nagafen
02/03/13 Trakanon
02/03/13 Dracoliche
02/02/13 Plane of Sky Sisters
02/02/13 Plane of Sky Bees
02/02/13 Hand of Veeshan
02/02/13 Overseer of Air
02/02/13 Noble Dojorn
02/02/13 VS Attempt
02/01/13 Trakanon
02/01/13 Talendor
02/01/13 Lady Vox
01/31/13 Faydedar Attempt
01/31/13 Cazic Thule
01/31/13 Dracoliche
01/30/13 Gorenaire

The revised list is showing TMO with 29 total encounters, and losing out only 5. Thus giving them a 82% winning percentage. For fairness sake though I think we can safely remove the sky mobs sans OoA and Noble from that list as well.That brings their attempts down to 25, and their winning percentage to a perfect 80%.

Using gododdfrenchs numbers of 17 total mobs, and losing 5, TMO still has winning percentage of of 71%.

[Loly Taa]

lrn2count

Sorry was too busy killing dragons; SO!

13/17 = 76%

Wake me up when your guild is not the latter half of a terrible joke.

[49shadesofgay]

Why does TMO have such utter dominance over Kunark dragons?

[Hailto]

Sorry was too busy killing dragons; SO!

13/17 = 76%

Wake me up when your guild is not the latter half of a terrible joke.

Almost there!

[Loly Taa]

Almost there!

You must be pretty bored or pretty dumb if you're taking the trollbait this easily!

[49shadesofgay]

Loly, I thought you worked for the state lottery?

I hope that you are not the individual responsible for printing the odds on the back of scratch-offs..

[49shadesofgay]

Also, can you hook a "*****" up with some cashwords? The $5 ones.. fuuuck ya.

[Hailto]

You must be pretty bored or pretty dumb if you're taking the trollbait this easily!

Oh the old, "troled u!!!!!" defense, one of my favorites. You're too drunk to count, get some coffee.

[Massive Marc]

Loly, I thought you worked for the state lottery?

I hope that you are not the individual responsible for printing the odds on the back of scratch-offs..

by state lottery, he meant those kiosks inside your local grocery store.

[falkun]

No one else bothers stooping to those levels. Hell, there are guilds being created to avoid the raiding shit-scene (see: A-team). And 71% is still lower than TMO's win percentage 6 months ago..."A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". FE will take the small victories, and TMO will brag about "we're still winning", its the same common argument taken by the #1 spots and underdogs all the time. See Apple, Microsoft, Ford, Comcast, Smirnoff, or any other #1 in their industry.

[OforOppression]

Hey Hailto, you 60 yet?

[Loly Taa]

No one else bothers stooping to those levels. Hell, there are guilds being created to avoid the raiding shit-scene (see: A-team). And 71% is still lower than TMO's win percentage 6 months ago..."A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". FE will take the small victories, and TMO will brag about "we're still winning", its the same common argument taken by the #1 spots and underdogs all the time. See Apple, Microsoft, Ford, Comcast, Smirnoff, or any other #1 in their industry.

VD thought it was winning small victories too, so did BDA till your FE broz bailed on you to; "Take the fight to TMO"


The only fight they've brought is giving BDA the short stick on FTE poopsocks.

They (FE) insisted they were going to make our lives a living hell in VP, yet now they whine that they'll come when "Adriana, Getsome, and some other washed up has been" is online to lead their raids and try to cover their asses.

Bitch please, bring it. Even I'm getting sick of the forum questing.

[Alarti0001]

No one else bothers stooping to those levels. Hell, there are guilds being created to avoid the raiding shit-scene (see: A-team). And 71% is still lower than TMO's win percentage 6 months ago..."A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". FE will take the small victories, and TMO will brag about "we're still winning", its the same common argument taken by the #1 spots and underdogs all the time. See Apple, Microsoft, Ford, Comcast, Smirnoff, or any other #1 in their industry.

Maintaining 100% kill ratio with even a meager challenger is laughably difficult. BDA once got kills against us too.. see VS and Fay.... its really no different then what happened in the past. The hard part is getting past those diminishing returns. Which is where FE is right now.

[Yibz]

No one else bothers stooping to those levels. Hell, there are guilds being created to avoid the raiding shit-scene (see: A-team). And 71% is still lower than TMO's win percentage 6 months ago..."A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". FE will take the small victories, and TMO will brag about "we're still winning", its the same common argument taken by the #1 spots and underdogs all the time. See Apple, Microsoft, Ford, Comcast, Smirnoff, or any other #1 in their industry.
Grats on 60, brother!

[49shadesofgay]

VD thought it was winning small victories too, so did BDA till your FE broz bailed on you to; "Take the fight to TMO"


The only fight they've brought is giving BDA the short stick on FTE poopsocks.

They (FE) insisted they were going to make our lives a living hell in VP, yet now they whine that they'll come when "Adriana, Getsome, and some other washed up has been" is online to lead their raids and try to cover their asses.

Bitch please, bring it. Even I'm getting sick of the forum questing.

So TMO is addmittedly losing more mobs than at any other point in the last 6 months (year?), and one of their lead RnF players is becoming "sick" of forum quest? Eccezan hasn't been around much the last few days, the end may be coming sooner than we think.

[falkun]

@Yibz: Thanks!

@Loly: Quite possible. Only time will tell. Burnout is a serious issue. IB/TR declared the same things on you guys (TMO) and we all know how that turned out.

@Alarti: Ok, but 71%/76% is still lower than whatever "sub-100%" ratio you'd like to propose TMO maintained 6 months ago, so I fail to see where our arguments conflict. 2/5 Trak's is 2 less Trak's than TMO got 6 months ago.

TMO's job is to forumquest FE into burnout. FE's job is to shrug off TMO's taunts and keep motivated to keep challenging TMO.

[Loly Taa]

So TMO is addmittedly losing more mobs than at any other point in the last 6 months (year?), and one of their lead RnF players is becoming "sick" of forum quest? Eccezan hasn't been around much the last few days, the end may be coming sooner than we think.

Ha, it's not surprising you misunderstand.

Your AE inviting will only get you so far, it's already landed us a hilarious amount of spies in your guild.

I'm saying, if you wanna talk some shit- do something worth talking shit about. Laughing about killing VS/Trak/Fay when that's the same shit all previous versions of that cesspool you call a group of players has done for the last year isn't very impressive. It's even less impressive when you brag about getting kills in poopsock situations- by the way, how did that CT sock go for you guys? Hurley ran at him?

See, when it comes down to a sock where strategy is key- you just throw yourselves at the mob and hope to win... and well... you simply don't.

Can't wait for Velious brahs, at least you'll see VP then.

[falkun]

You keep spouting off "FE claims Trak as a victory, WTB VP talk" like Trak isn't a massive victory. If Trak's not a massive victory, why are TMO contesting it so hard? You've banked over 40 teeth, are the only guild that sells teeth, and yet Trak isn't a big deal? You're making a pretty big deal out of it...

[falkun]

* You sell teeth for more than epic pieces. Teeth are a guaranteed drop yet they sell for 500k while trak guts, a rare drop from the same mob, sell for 250k? Please tell me again how VP access is not a top priority for TMO?

[Alarti0001]

You keep spouting off "FE claims Trak as a victory, WTB VP talk" like Trak isn't a massive victory. If Trak's not a massive victory, why are TMO contesting it so hard? You've banked over 40 teeth, are the only guild that sells teeth, and yet Trak isn't a big deal? You're making a pretty big deal out of it...

You are such a cute new level 60. Trak when poopsocked isnt a big deal. Poopsocking is a dice game. Not much can be done about it. Same thing goes to VS. Poopsocking isnt something to do in VP. SO random dice rolls at Trak speaks to nothing about VP other than keys. More FE in VP doesn't affect us since FTE isnt a rule there.

[Loly Taa]

* You sell teeth for more than epic pieces. Teeth are a guaranteed drop yet they sell for 500k while trak guts, a rare drop from the same mob, sell for 250k? Please tell me again how VP access is not a top priority for TMO?

Last I heard we were selling them for 200k. I don't think we've ever charged 500k, unless you're our competition.

There's a few people that tag along on VP raids to loot rots now. Just ask Loraen.

[Alarti0001]

* You sell teeth for more than epic pieces. Teeth are a guaranteed drop yet they sell for 500k while trak guts, a rare drop from the same mob, sell for 250k? Please tell me again how VP access is not a top priority for TMO?

Lol supply and demand determine prices. Stop derpin.

[Alarti0001]

So TMO is addmittedly losing more mobs than at any other point in the last 6 months (year?), and one of their lead RnF players is becoming "sick" of forum quest? Eccezan hasn't been around much the last few days, the end may be coming sooner than we think.

If you think Loly is a lead "RnF player" you are seriously deluded. Loly is hardly ever in RnF.

[falkun]

Last I heard we were selling them for 200k. I don't think we've ever charged 500k, unless you're our competition.

There's a few people that tag along on VP raids to loot rots now. Just ask Loraen.
You blind? Ignorant? Sleep under a rock?
Trakanon's Tooth MQ (For Key of Veeshan) aka VP key - 500k


http://www.shirtaday.com/pastShirts/20070402_gijoeBig.jpg

And I'm glad someone is getting the rots, grats Lor!

[Hailto]

No one really believes that TMO doesn't think Trak is a big deal. For all your big talk about how you want a contest in VP, you are absolutely terrified of another guild getting a raid force keyed. If you wanted a real contest you would leave Trak open and say bring it on, you all only need Trak loot on your 3rd string alts anyway.

So stop trying to make that argument, its sad.

[Godefroi]

If you think Loly is a lead "RnF player" you are seriously deluded. Loly is hardly ever in RnF.

Why be in RnF when you are in TMO when you have PR President Extraordinaire of Propaganda and White knighting Alarti ?

[Zeelot]

I remember there were so many posts on the VD forums about how TMO is about to fall and that it's a crumbling guild. Glad to see you guys are keeping the spirit alive. The end is coming!

[falkun]

Alarti, you are missing my point. My point is not that VP and Trak are different. My point is that TMO claims Trak is not a big deal and yet expends more resources to guarantee Trak lockdown than any other raid mob in the game. How many other mobs do you offer "FTE payment" for? How many other guaranteed drops do you charge 500k for (off a 3-day spawn)?

I believe you when you say VP train-fest is vastly different than the Trak lotto, and FE/BDA/whoever will have to deal with TMO's superior experience in the zone when they get there. But that's not what I'm arguing, and its telling that you are skirting the issue.

[Funkutron5000]

They've offered 50K for VS FTE on at least two occasions since early November.

[Alawen]

Forceful Entry still arguing for uncontested or assisted entry instead. TMO could power level BDA, too. That probably won't happen, either.

[falkun]

Still less than the 80k they offered for Trak at the last 'sock I saw. But VS is the mob they are more consistently losing (if RNF is to be believed), so I could see why they'd want to regain some face on VS with an FTE payment.

[falkun]

And Alawen enters the scene with...nothing.

[Zeelot]

We offer platinum initiatives all the time. Whenever it turns into a guild on spawn FTE situation TMO offers plat to make it somewhat worthwhile for those involved.

[Hailto]

Forceful Entry still arguing for uncontested or assisted entry instead. TMO could power level BDA, too. That probably won't happen, either.

Who got the last Trak? I didn't know we had a handicap on that one.

[Alawen]

Who got the last Trak? I didn't know we had a handicap on that one.

One of the 115 players FE and BDA showed up with at the e's of window? For another desperate FTE attempt?

[Alarti0001]

Why be in RnF when you are in TMO when you have PR President Extraordinaire of Propaganda and White knighting Alarti ?

Again projecting your flaws onto others.

[Zeelot]

Who got the last Trak? I didn't know we had a handicap on that one.

You mean the one with 150 people total from 3 different guilds sitting on the spawn?

p.s. BDA promotes use of autofire at these raids, you don't do this twice by accident, rofl:

[ANONYMOUS] Ascention <Bregan D`Aerth>

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[Sun Feb 10 20:39:07 2013] Ascention says, '6666666666/66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 6666666666666w66666666666666666h666666666666666o66 6666666666666 66666666666666666666666666666666666g66666666666666 6u666666666666666i6666666666666666666666666l666666 66666666666666666d66666666666666666666666666666666 66666666666666666666666166666666666666666666866666 66666666666666666666666666666666666666663666666666 6666666666666'

[Zeelot]

[ANONYMOUS] Ascention < Bregan D`Aerth >

[falkun]

@Alawen: So its desperate when FE and/or BDA sit on spawn with <10hrs left in window, but its not desperate when TMO joins them? How about TMO camping characters on poop mountain - is it less desperate for them to do it than for FE or BDA? I'm not saying either side is more or less desperate than the other, but if you are participating, you are just as much to blame as your opponent. TMO is freely able to not participate in the poop sock.

[Eccezan]

You mean the one with 150 people total from 3 different guilds sitting on the spawn?

p.s. BDA promotes use of autofire at these raids, you don't do this twice by accident, rofl:

Haha...looks like someone forgot to turn off their autofire before typing /w.......guilty.


Guilty.

[Alarti0001]

Who got the last Trak? I didn't know we had a handicap on that one.

you have 100 people there to help u dps. =)

[Eccezan]

Lets go over the logistics of accidentally typing that many 6's in the middle of a /w guild commands.

[Alarti0001]

@Alawen: So its desperate when FE and/or BDA sit on spawn with <10hrs left in window, but its not desperate when TMO joins them? How about TMO camping characters on poop mountain - is it less desperate for them to do it than for FE or BDA? I'm not saying either side is more or less desperate than the other, but if you are participating, you are just as much to blame as your opponent. TMO is freely able to not participate in the poop sock.

Its basic escalation. When your opponent sends 55 people onto spawn you must counter to have a chance...

In reality if FE didnt join them we wouldn't have gone out because chances are high that BDA with 55 would still wipe to trak.

[falkun]

@Alarti: Then don't participate in the poop sock. Let them sit on spawn and die due to insta-spawn-AE. If you don't think they can do it, make them prove it. If you do think they can do it, then sit down there with them for the FTE dice-roll. Since you constantly sit down there with them, its pretty obvious how you really feel.

[Alarti0001]

In reality if FE didnt join them we wouldn't have gone out because chances are high that BDA with 55 would still wipe to trak.

@Alarti: Then don't participate in the poop sock. Let them sit on spawn and die due to insta-spawn-AE. If you don't think they can do it, make them prove it. If you do think they can do it, then sit down there with them for the FTE dice-roll. Since you constantly sit down there with them, its pretty obvious how you really feel.

Reading comprehension sir.

[Zeelot]

BDA is the one who started up the fun last night, even FE would agree with me there. Recently posted evidence also proves that BDA promotes 3rd party macro programs to ensure spawn-sock victories, yet still doesn't win.

[falkun]

@Alarti: "Must" counter? I thought Trak wasn't a big deal, why "must" you counter? TMO got Talendor this weekend while I was AE kiting in Skyfire. I didn't feel I "must" instantly go over and pull Talendor. I thought, "Tal spawned...ok, back to getting 60". The only things you "must" do are what you decide. If you've decided you "must have a chance" then you are doing it for a reason. Since you are selling BPs, teeth, and epics, I'm running out of reasons for why you've decided you "must" poopsock Trak other than VP access denial.

[Alarti0001]

@Alarti: "Must" counter? I thought Trak wasn't a big deal, why "must" you counter? TMO got Talendor this weekend while I was AE kiting in Skyfire. I didn't feel I "must" instantly go over and pull Talendor. I thought, "Tal spawned...ok, back to getting 60". The only things you "must" do are what you decide. If you've decided you "must have a chance" then you are doing it for a reason. Since you are selling BPs, teeth, and epics, I'm running out of reasons for why you've decided you "must" poopsock Trak other than VP access denial.

We are a raid guild.... we raid. Didnt you allude earlier we needed trak for guild bank funds? You seem to be confusing yourself or bouncing betweens points. Please come up with a cogent linear line of reasoning..... if you can?

[falkun]

Reading comprehension sir.

Was totally writing that response BEFORE you posted the second one in a row. Read it this way:
you have 100 people there to help u dps. =)
@Alarti: Then don't participate in the poop sock. Let them sit on spawn and die due to insta-spawn-AE. If you don't think they can do it, make them prove it. If you do think they can do it, then sit down there with them for the FTE dice-roll. Since you constantly sit down there with them, its pretty obvious how you really feel.
Its basic escalation. When your opponent sends 55 people onto spawn you must counter to have a chance...

In reality if FE didnt join them we wouldn't have gone out because chances are high that BDA with 55 would still wipe to trak.

[Zeelot]

^^ Lol at this guy trying to take attention away from facts by arguing with Alarti. Who seriously argues with Alarti? Most unproductive thing in the world.

[Tiggles]

Confirmed BDA/FE using 3rd party programs to snipe FTE on all recent raid contents GMS are in discussion on how to properly punish said guilds.


Wow! The guild that can only snipe targets and not kill them cant even snipe legally.

I would disband now if I was in such a guild.

[Hailto]

Confirmed BDA/FE using 3rd party programs to snipe FTE on all recent raid contents GMS are in discussion on how to properly punish said guilds.


Wow! The guild that can only snipe targets and not kill them cant even snipe legally.

I would disband now if I was in such a guild.

Cool story bro.

[Splorf22]

Grats on 60 Deajay!

The facts are: I bought a trak tooth and as many VP rots as I could fit into Sakuragi's tink bags for 250k. Like one week later Eccezan started auctioning teeth for 500k. Currently Lostprophets is also in VP; I asked Zeelot and he said he keyed him up and was tutoring him or something.

I was actually trying to train the Trak poopsock last night to spice it up a bit but I failed utterly. There were two see invis juggs and I kept lagging out while trying to facepull them (it's not easy to facepull juggs when you are as squishy as I am, don't have sow, and have 5 second ping times). When I was actually on the poopin site I mostly desynced within 10 seconds. So next time guys, clear those see invis juggs and we'll have a lot more fun.

[Alarti0001]

^^ Lol at this guy trying to take attention away from facts by arguing with Alarti. Who seriously argues with Alarti? Most unproductive thing in the world.

Agreed, however a surprising many try to argue with me. Unfortunately, they always do so without facts which makes it irritating to say the least.

[Splorf22]

Also, you and Alarti are both right: Trak is important because he drops teeth and sexy BPs, but when he is poopsocked it's just a lottery on who wins him and it has very little to do with skill and much more to do with the speed of your internet connection/PC.

[Hailto]

I don't think anyone was really arguing skill here. Just the fact that TMO tries to deny that Trak is important to them, when its blatantly obvious that it is.

[falkun]

We are a raid guild.... we raid. Didnt you allude earlier we needed trak for guild bank funds? You seem to be confusing yourself or bouncing betweens points. Please come up with a cogent linear line of reasoning..... if you can?

What's the other point I'm making in this thread? Where did I post in this thread about "trak for guild bank funds"? I've had a cogent argument in this thread: TMO is inconsistent in the manner they discuss Trak (downplaying FE Trak victories in RNF) while simultaneously spending more effort to kill Trakanon and limit his raid supply (guaranteed teeth cost more than rare epic drops/BPs, poopsocking, offering FTE payment) than other P99 raid mobs.

[falkun]

And thanks Lor. With all these "grats" I almost feel like I should make my own RNF post so I can get all the "took you long enough" trolls in one cesspool.

[Zeelot]

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[49shadesofgay]

Ha, it's not surprising you misunderstand.

Your AE inviting will only get you so far, it's already landed us a hilarious amount of spies in your guild.

I'm saying, if you wanna talk some shit- do something worth talking shit about. Laughing about killing VS/Trak/Fay when that's the same shit all previous versions of that cesspool you call a group of players has done for the last year isn't very impressive. It's even less impressive when you brag about getting kills in poopsock situations- by the way, how did that CT sock go for you guys? Hurley ran at him?

See, when it comes down to a sock where strategy is key- you just throw yourselves at the mob and hope to win... and well... you simply don't.

Can't wait for Velious brahs, at least you'll see VP then.

I'm not really sure you know what you're talking about.

According to godfeireifrench and my previous post history, I have a clear TMO slant. According to you I am a member of FE.

I think both of you are exposing your insecurities and mental wear publically. :)

[falkun]

Not Part of Cogent Argument.
@Zeelot: I see the /w guild183 now! I R smart. That's pretty funny.
@Alarti: I will now begin labeling my "off-topic" RNF posts with "not part of cogent argument" so that you are able to follow the conversation. I do this because you have complained that you have trouble with reading comprehension.

[49shadesofgay]

Agreed, however a surprising many try to argue with me. Unfortunately, they always do so without facts which makes it irritating to say the least.

I think you miss your master's mark.

[Alarti0001]

Not Part of Cogent Argument.
@Zeelot: I see the /w guild183 now! I R smart. That's pretty funny.
@Alarti: I will now begin labeling my "off-topic" RNF posts with "not part of cogent argument" so that you are able to follow the conversation. I do this because you have complained that you have trouble with reading comprehension.

Again your reading comprehension is sucking, or you are shifting points. As earlier you claimed you understood my reading comprehension remark and didnt see my post. Derpin.


You claim we are inconsistent. We downplay Trak victories that result in poopsock, not because FE won them. FE won a couple from speedy fte's kudos to those.

I realize poopsock is the sole BDA strategy but it does not make us inconsistent because we laud some strategies and laugh at others. Some strategies are respectable and require a modicum of skill. 173 man poopsocks do not.

Now that you caught up to everyone on levels maybe it is time your caught up on raiding information.