American Justice

[Godefroi]

Damn, such things seriously make me love the USA.

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[Atennu]

I'm sure her pimp and landscaping family will have her taken care of while on vacation

[Godefroi]

I'm sure her pimp and landscaping family will have her taken care of while on vacation

She's so dumb, that big judge looks quite friendly, she could have gotten out with à 5,000 $ caution n she dropped with 10K and 30 days of jail. I mean wow, things can escalade quite quick in US courts!

[radditsu]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9rkz4LSEq1r8tgcmo1_500.jpg

[Tiggles]

She's so dumb, that big judge looks quite friendly, she could have gotten out with à 5,000 $ caution n she dropped with 10K and 30 days of jail. I mean wow, things can escalade quite quick in US courts!

She looks high as a kite if her lawyer was not some shitty public defender she would not of even been allowed to stand there for sentencing.

Also with no priors she could of asked for rehab and had it granted most likely

[Strifer]

Dumb bitch doesn't take it seriously, judge throws the book at her. To an old white guy he wont laugh nor will he get the "It's worth a lotta money like rick ross" stupid shits like this would piss me right off as well and glad to see it happen.

[Itap]

she looks like a real winner

[Kagatob]

6/10 would still fuck.

[Lexical]

I mean wow, things can escalade quite quick in US courts!
nyuk nyuk nyuk.

[Hitchens]

She's so dumb, that big judge looks quite friendly, she could have gotten out with à 5,000 $ caution n she dropped with 10K and 30 days of jail. I mean wow, things can escalade quite quick in US courts!

Nah, the judge is actually acting like a jerk. Yeah, the girl is obviously an idiot but the judge disregarded her public defender's request to be appointed to act on behalf of his client. The girl had obviously not been briefed on what is expected of her when she goes before a judge. This clip doesn't show the extra two minutes of footage where the judge admits he screwed up by ignoring the public defender's request.

I'm pretty sure the contempt charge is already dropped due to the judge ignoring the PD's request before the situation blew up. The added bond will probably be dropped as well.

[Alawen]

Who wants to pay the costs to jail someone just because she's an idiot? Only a bigger idiot.

[Bardalicious]

Who wants to pay the costs to jail someone just because she's an idiot? Only a bigger idiot.

Yeah no shit...

Non violent offender? LOL THROW THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!

She may be a dumb cunt but it's his job to act without personal emotion. It's pretty clear he was power trippin'.

[Dullah]

Hilarious. Kids these days.

[Godefroi]

Yeah no shit...

Non violent offender? LOL THROW THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!

She may be a dumb cunt but it's his job to act without personal emotion. It's pretty clear he was power trippin'.

Exactly, she might be a dumb cunt but it appeared to me the judge acted like he were god?

Anyways, law is different in every state in the US right?

[Hitchens]

Exactly, she might be a dumb cunt but it appeared to me the judge acted like he were god?

Anyways, law is different in every state in the US right?

I'm pretty sure judges aren't allowed to disregard procedure because of personal emotions regardless of location.

[Autotune]

I'm pretty sure judges can do whatever they fuck they want within their means to get the point across.

[Hitchens]

I'm pretty sure judges can do whatever they fuck they want within their means to get the point across.

No, they can't.

[kenzar]

This is ffirst appearence not her trial. The judge rhas the option to ROR her on her charges or set a bail. The bail id almost completely up to the judge with some restrictions. There are monetary ranges depending on the infraction.
He set her bail at 5k for the possesion charges which id on the low end off the alotted range. When she gave him the finger he was well within his duties to max her bail at 10k5k and slap her with contempt off court. Welcome to american judicial system.

[Hitchens]

No... he wasn't, because he ignored the PD's request and admitted such in the complete video. This is not the complete video.

[kenzar]

No, they can't.

Maybe not a trial but at arraignment u are pretty muxh at the mercy of the judge

[Autotune]

No, they can't.

um, yes they can.

Either you're dumb of blind. There are plenty of cases where this type of shit happens all across the country.

[Hitchens]

Watch the complete video.

[Lexical]

Watch the complete video.

link please.

[kenzar]

Watch the complete video.

Ive seen the complete video. Admitting you should have handled a situation differently is not the same as saying u ovver stepped your power. While it might seem like a nice idea that judges work as emotionless robots that is not how it works in reality. Sry

[Hitchens]

link please.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/did-you-say-fk-me-judge-sentences-florida-teen-to-30-days-in-jail-for-cursing-at-him/

Mediate actually has footage of the PD. Not sure why none of the other clips do.

[Hitchens]

Ive seen the complete video. Admitting you should have handled a situation differently is not the same as saying u ovver stepped your power. While it might seem like a nice idea that judges work as emotionless robots that is not how it works in reality. Sry

No one is making the argument that judges work as emotionless robots. But judges can't violate procedure with impunity regardless of how entertaining the viral web video may be.

[kenzar]

For the most part at arraignment judges dictate procedure with a few exceptions. She will get her day in court at her trial until then its the judges day. Have you never had a 1st appearence. Before?

[Hitchens]

Evidently this is a case of one of those few exceptions.

[kenzar]

Yeah. When u have a first appearance the judge looks at your charges and then at your previous charges. The judge has a certain range at which to set bail or if no previous record he can ROR (release on own recognicence) the person. The only right you have at first appearence is the right to a first appearence.

[A Lizard 01]

The justice system is looong gone. Witness the bloated monstrosity of corrupt power and it's prey the dumbed down powerless slave.

[Skekekke]

She will have her own TV show soon.

[Piggles]

giggety

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/604119_10151302562813207_595286215_n.jpg

[Tasslehofp99]

giggety

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/604119_10151302562813207_595286215_n.jpg

damn, lol


Anyway, I'm pretty sure there are already pre-set maximum bails set for every crime. A judge can choose to either give the maximum bail or a substantially lesser amount based on the person's situation, income/assets, and if they are a flight risk or not (based on severity of crime.)

But holy fuck, 10 grand for a few xanax pills that she could've swindled any doctor into prescribing to her legally? give me a fucking break, seriously lol

[Kagatob]

But holy fuck, 10 grand for a few xanax pills that she could've swindled any doctor into prescribing to her legally? give me a fucking break, seriously lol

10 grand for contempt in court.

[kenzar]

10 grand for contempt in court.

10k bail on the possession charge and 30 days in county for contempt of court.

[Kagatob]

Her behavior was completely out of line and she deserved exactly what she got, anyone who disagrees is an idiot or sympathizing with her for the wrong reasons.

If it weren't for the excessive number of corrupt cops out there I'm sure she would have been put away long ago. Makes me wonder how many other crimes she was picked up for but blew her way out of.

[Godefroi]

she went back to court

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=536_1360201198

the bond was just 5K anyways, so this judge was just a hoax or something hum.

[Kagatob]

she went back to court

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=536_1360201198

the bond was just 5K anyways, so this judge was just a hoax or something hum.

She prolly blew the second judge. Just sayin.

[Alawen]

Her behavior was completely out of line and she deserved exactly what she got, anyone who disagrees is an idiot or sympathizing with her for the wrong reasons.

If it weren't for the excessive number of corrupt cops out there I'm sure she would have been put away long ago. Makes me wonder how many other crimes she was picked up for but blew her way out of.

So you're one of the idiots who wants to spend big money so we can jail people for being idiots. I hope you're just as big of a moron when you file your taxes.

[Autotune]

So you're one of the idiots who wants to spend big money so we can jail people for being idiots. I hope you're just as big of a moron when you file your taxes.

id rather them put her to death for being an idiot.

[Alawen]

id rather them put her to death for being an idiot.

That costs even more than life imprisonment.

[dragonfists]

in some other countries she would have probably had the finger chopped off instead of the jail time.. jus sayin

[Autotune]

That costs even more than life imprisonment.

not in the long run.

She won't breed, which means less idiotic offspring produced.

Big picture, always think big picture.

[Kagatob]

So you're one of the idiots who wants to spend big money so we can jail people for being idiots. I hope you're just as big of a moron when you file your taxes.

That costs even more than life imprisonment.

Congratulations, you can point out that our judicial and incarceration systems are extremely flawed.

The parts that are in bold are not exclusive to all incarceration systems globally, they are only true in nations where the authority in power decides to cater to people who don't wish to abide by the laws that are required to maintain the state of being a citizen.

Don't assume that I support the fact that we feed, clothe, give medical attention, physically train, school, provide entertainment mediums and even pay these murderers, rapists, drug dealers and gang-bangers while they are in prison. The system is broken, however, acknowledging such doesn't mean that I'd rather have these people running free to do harm to more people, flawed prison is the lesser of two evils in this case.

The same goes for the death penalty, the idea of the death penalty isn't flawed. The appeals system, and the fact that it takes 30 years to put someone to death who has been proven guilty beyond ANY reasonable doubt is ridiculous. This isn't even taking into consideration that the state is paying to keep this person living essentially comfortably the whole time.

[kenzar]

Cool opinions, im sure you really changed some peoples lives with that. Really cool opinion

[Psionide]

People really think judges don't give sentences out based on personal emotion? Wow

[Arclyte]

I have a friend who used to work in corrections in PA and I could have sworn he mentioned something about the inmates were paying for their own incarceration, and that menial labor like making license plates or picking up trash etc was offered to even out their debt

[Alawen]

Congratulations, you can point out that our judicial and incarceration systems are extremely flawed.

The parts that are in bold are not exclusive to all incarceration systems globally, they are only true in nations where the authority in power decides to cater to people who don't wish to abide by the laws that are required to maintain the state of being a citizen.

Don't assume that I support the fact that we feed, clothe, give medical attention, physically train, school, provide entertainment mediums and even pay these murderers, rapists, drug dealers and gang-bangers while they are in prison. The system is broken, however, acknowledging such doesn't mean that I'd rather have these people running free to do harm to more people, flawed prison is the lesser of two evils in this case.

The same goes for the death penalty, the idea of the death penalty isn't flawed. The appeals system, and the fact that it takes 30 years to put someone to death who has been proven guilty beyond ANY reasonable doubt is ridiculous. This isn't even taking into consideration that the state is paying to keep this person living essentially comfortably the whole time.

Are you keeping in mind that she had a few Xanax or something like that? I don't think she's a good example for supporting a fast track to the death penalty.

[Vandy]

That's good for the little cunt if she would learn some manors and respect she wouldn't be in the situation. Welcome to the future of America where every little shit thinks they are some superstar because of their thousands of followers on facebook.

[Resheph]

People really think judges don't give sentences out based on personal emotion? Wow

I tried to chase a tenant out of my house by knifepoint (he was larger than I am) and he called the cops. I spent a night in jail but the painful part was the bail money. When I went to court, the judge gave me time served, could have given me 3 years. I dressed well, spoke clearly and respectfully and didn't cause him any trouble.

They definitely go by personal emotion.

[Kagatob]

Are you keeping in mind that she had a few Xanax or something like that? I don't think she's a good example for supporting a fast track to the death penalty.

Fail strawman.

Pointing out that one of my examples is less related to the crime described in the OP does nothing to refute my point. Move along now.

[Alawen]

Fail strawman.

Pointing out that one of my examples is less related to the crime described in the OP does nothing to refute my point. Move along now.

Perhaps you didn't notice what this thread is about. Maybe you should go back to page one and have a look. Your tangent is over-reactive to the point of non sequitur.

[Kagatob]

Perhaps you didn't notice what this thread is about. Maybe you should go back to page one and have a look. Your tangent is over-reactive to the point of non sequitur.

Your face is non sequitur.

[kenzar]

Fail, ad hominem? I wouldn't go down this path with Alawen, just a word to the wise.

[Kassel]

how else is that stupid bitch going to learn her lesson

[Kagatob]

Fail, ad hominem? I wouldn't go down this path with Alawen, just a word to the wise.

His shit stinks just as much as yours does. Shoo

[Alawen]

Your face is non sequitur.

Your mom is non sequitur.

THAT'S RIGHT I WENT THERE. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW???

[Kagatob]

Your mom is non sequitur.

THAT'S RIGHT I WENT THERE. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO NOW???

My mom's dead... So I guess she is?
She's not really dead.

[Hailto]

Alawen is a pleasant individual in game surprisingly, on the forums he can be a bit cringe-worthy.

[hatelore]

not in the long run.

She won't breed, which means less idiotic offspring produced.

Big picture, always think big picture.

Yeah but look at you... I look at the big picture and then I realize you exist... so... lol Why are you here? Are you admitting you were a mistake since birth? ;)

[OforOppression]

Alawen is a pleasant individual in game surprisingly, on the forums he can be a bit cringe-worthy.

Haze is cringe-worthy ingame and outgame

beg me for a rez one more time motherfucker

[Alawen]

I like to heal folks and give them SoW in ElfQuest!

I thought we were supposed to be mean to each other until everyone questions his or her priorities and self-worth in ForumQuest..?

[Kagatob]

I do not disagree with these things.

[Resheph]

So, the judge dropped the contempt charges AND this chic's bail, setting her free. She apologized, yes, but still ended up getting nothing for flipping him off and insulting him.

Hooray for a world where we can insult people in the justice system with no penalty!

[Alawen]

You do realize that it's the justice system and not the vengeance system?

[Resheph]

You do realize that it's the justice system and not the vengeance system?

I do. I was also taught this thing called respect. Something that seems to be lacking these days. There's also a thing called contempt of court to encourage this respect.