Thursday Night Fights!

[Sirken]

Who: 52+
What: Thursday Night Fights
Where: Steamfont, just outside Ak'anon
When: Thursday January 24th, 6pm EST
Why: extreme pixel grief / forced QQ / Sirken's entertainment
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Thursday January 24th, 6pm EST we will be doing another round of Thursday night fights.



there will be 1 match where two player captains pick teams and the teams fight to the death. last team standing wins. i will illusion the teams so that players can clearly see who is on which team (anyone using EQLite will be at a disadvantage here)

there will be 1 match where six Nihilum will battle six Azrael. last group standing wins.

there will be 1 match where everybody (except the current Champion of Steamfont) will have a free for all.

there will be 1 match where the winner of the free for fall will battle with The Champion of Steamfont in an effort to steal his title. (should the Champion of Steamfont not be present, i will strip him of his title, and it will go to the winner of the FFA)


anyone caught hiding will be DTd, and DQd - hiding does not yield rewards in a pvp contest.

there will be no spells, songs, clickies, or anything else that allows for anything like shadow stepping. its to easy to be teleported out of the combat area, and its to hard for me to monitor everybody.

in the captains match, anyone that loses their GM given illusion is DQ'd (these illusions are not spells, and as such, are not vulnerable to dispells, pumices, etc. so use those at your own free will).


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[Zozo]

Oh yeaaaaa. Hope I get picked last.

[SamwiseRed]

i got picked last last time. :(

[Rettii]

No hiding fartbrand

[Holey]

golem wands blown on one person = no illusion. confirmed

[Twain]

Time to get another AoN!

[Sirken]

golem wands blown on one person = no illusion. confirmed

the illusion is me changing your race with a GM command. its not a spell effect.

[SamwiseRed]

yup i dispelled the shit out of people and noone lost illusion. i think someone hit their clicky mask or aon then got dispelled.

[Holey]

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOOOOR!

[Sirken]

yup i dispelled the shit out of people and noone lost illusion. i think someone hit their clicky mask or aon then got dispelled.


thats why..
in the captains match, anyone that loses their GM given illusion is DQ'd (these illusions are not spells, and as such, are not vulnerable to dispells, pumices, etc. so use those at your own free will).


anyone that uses a AoN, or a Mask, or ANYTHING that changes their race, they are DQd. (sorry necros)

[Holey]

the illusion is me changing your race with a GM command. its not a spell effect.

If it was gm illusion, still happened.
Batlle was shroom,
Batlle got wanded
battle turned into dwarf again.

I talked to him about this, and he said wanded happened.

[Rettii]

Sirks I got a very important PM for u

[SamwiseRed]

was battle in de or skelly form before the gm command? maybe if you have a clicky illusion up while you get getting gm illusion then when that clicky illusion is dispelled you go regular form. this would explain why it only happened to batlle and tune and not anyone else.

[Rettii]

I shall record the event for all to enjoy

[Twain]

I think the issue has to do with an illusion already being present. I had DE illusion on when he made me a shroom. When I clicked my buff, I turned back into my regular form. I think that is what happened at least, we can test this tomorrow unless Big Sirks wants to come illusion me when I come home from work tonight.

[heartbrand]

I think the issue has to do with an illusion already being present. I had DE illusion on when he made me a shroom. When I clicked my buff, I turned back into my regular form. I think that is what happened at least, we can test this tomorrow unless Big Sirks wants to come illusion me when I come home from work tonight.

ya pretty sure that's it I had same issue, I had DE illusion already on, I was then GM buffed, when my DE illusion ticked off I lost the GM illusion.

[SamwiseRed]

detective samwise was right on.

[Sirken]

If it was gm illusion, still happened.
Batlle was shroom,
Batlle got wanded
battle turned into dwarf again.

I talked to him about this, and he said wanded happened.
ok well, i just jumped on red to test this.

you and your friend are confirmed wrong.

golem wands do not dispell the illusion.

reason being, its a command, not a spell effect.

[heartbrand]

Sirken, I think like a couple of us pointed out it's an issue if you already had an illusion effect up, then you get GM illusioned, the ticking off of the old illusion removes both.

[Tippett]

pras sirken i am now 52+ woot woot

[Tr0llb0rn]

Time to get another AoN!

x2

[Tippett]

Da Oogly Stick plz Sirken all time best eq item

[Holey]

ok well, i just jumped on red to test this.

you and your friend are confirmed wrong.

golem wands do not dispell the illusion.

reason being, its a command, not a spell effect.

sorry, was a theory.

[Sirken]

Sirken, I think like a couple of us pointed out it's an issue if you already had an illusion effect up, then you get GM illusioned, the ticking off of the old illusion removes both.

simple solution

dont have your illusions on as teams are being picked.

if the illusions breaks, you wont be considered on the winning team. because i need to be able to keep track of who is on which team.

[heartbrand]

Ya just pointing out what I think caused it hehe

[Dacuk]

Damn. No love for west coasters. Wtb 6pm PST start time.

[Twain]

Damn. No love for west coasters. Wtb 6pm PST start time.

Since when is NYC west coast?

[Combobreaker]

Since when is NYC west coast?

dacuk likes to think about others

[hijinks]

Who: 52+


[B]anyone caught hiding will be DTd, and DQd - hiding does not yield rewards in a pvp contest.



Can you define hiding? As a wizard that can't use shadowstep, last time I strategically levitated and stayed outside of the fight as long as I could in spurts at a time to MED. This isn't hiding, if a caster can't use shadowstep, you can't expect them to sit in the mid of the battlefield and try to med in a loooooong fight. Using trees to stay out of immediate sight to med inbetween killshots should be allowed. Now if you stay in 1 spot too long that is obvious.

Also, better control or seperation of the spectators or out of bound players to keep people that have already lost from having a hand in the outcome on the finale would be appreciated

[Rettii]

U have to get in there and melee Zyr good luck my prayers r with u!

[Nirgon]

Yeah and ps this matters a lot so be careful entering

[Sirken]

Can you define hiding? As a wizard that can't use shadowstep, last time I strategically levitated and stayed outside of the fight as long as I could in spurts at a time to MED. This isn't hiding, if a caster can't use shadowstep, you can't expect them to sit in the mid of the battlefield and try to med in a loooooong fight. Using trees to stay out of immediate sight to med inbetween killshots should be allowed. Now if you stay in 1 spot too long that is obvious.

Also, better control or seperation of the spectators or out of bound players to keep people that have already lost from having a hand in the outcome on the finale would be appreciated

this = hiding
http://i.imgur.com/V9ieb.jpg


i may at times ask survivors to send me tells. if players try to work with me, i can try to work with them

[Itap]

lmao ^


box emperor confirmed false

[Massive Marc]

ROFL hb too good.

[Dacuk]

Since when is NYC west coast?

Geography expert twainz strikes again. Point for you sir. I live in nyc and travel for work. In Cali this week.

[Twain]

Geography expert twainz strikes again. Point for you sir. I live in nyc and travel for work. In Cali this week.

No need to get upset sir. Was only trying to stalk you secretively in the open.

[Twain]

No need to get upset sir. Was only trying to stalk you secretively in the open.

[Dacuk]

Just friendly banter secretive agent twainz

[hijinks]

this = hiding
http://i.imgur.com/V9ieb.jpg


i may at times ask survivors to send me tells. if players try to work with me, i can try to work with them

LOL I literally fell out my chair, thats funny.

I can see that to be hiding on a MELEE, melee can only deal damage by .. well being in the fight and meleeing, anything else unless regenning health is HIDING.

Last time around I would bounce from tree to tree in effort of gaining mana because I blew my load early, and seeing as a wizard has no other way to regain mana outside of Harvest I had no choice but to pick my spots and med. I think you're obviously smart enough to know when a player is purposely trying to stay out of the fight or if they're just surviving, I think class has a lot to do with that as well.

If I'm going to be DQ'd because my idea of winning isn't sitting smack dab in the middile of 10 melees some w/ t-staff without the ability to yonder or use my surroundings then I won't even participate.

[Prince]

need another lvl 30 to 1v1 for aon

[Nizzarr]

how about no levitate

[Nizzarr]

cant you use models that are in the classic/kunark/velious game that eqlite didnt delete? I dont wanna reinstall for this event

[SamwiseRed]

I suggest the last man standing be in the arena, allow everything but if you step off the platform you are done. last man standing is like survivor, better pick and choose who you take out early on.

[Rettii]

how about no levitate

ROFL:confused:

[SamwiseRed]

always wanted to test sunbeam (aoe druid blind,) please take us to arena

[Sirken]

cant you use models that are in the classic/kunark/velious game that eqlite didnt delete? I dont wanna reinstall for this event

i will be using different models this time in hopes that they show up for people with EQlite. but if that doesn't work they are SoL. and i dont mean Luclin

[Rettii]

always wanted to test sunbeam (aoe druid blind,) please take us to arena

It works I've used it in tight spots like tunnel zone in to solB or lavastorm

[Yagebasto]

simple solution

dont have your illusions on as teams are being picked.

if the illusions breaks, you wont be considered on the winning team. because i need to be able to keep track of who is on which team.

why so sour? people are just brainstorming as to why the illusion was lost...

[Nizzarr]

Last time I saw the shrooms, I didnt see werewolfs.

Orcs werent loading but goblins were fine.

[Rettii]

why so sour? people are just brainstorming as to why the illusion was lost...

Ajax challenging Sirken

[SamwiseRed]

how about we get cazic thule vs inny illusions

[Nizzarr]

necro can cast chillbones on you and get rid of your illusion

[Nirgon]

Oh chill and ignite bones, two all or nothing spells with stun components. More things you wouldn't have to worry about in a classic resist system.

Side question:

Does being hit with ignite bones cause town guards to aggro you here?

Bonus question:

Does using lich/call of bones/various other skeleton illusions cause town guards to aggro you here?

[Prince]

need another lvl 30 to 1v1 for aon

[Rettii]

Skeleton form should let me be dubious to all of the world of Norrath

[Dullah]

Oh chill and ignite bones, two all or nothing spells with stun components. More things you wouldn't have to worry about in a classic resist system.

Side question:

Does being hit with ignite bones cause town guards to aggro you here?

Bonus question:

Does using lich/call of bones/various other skeleton illusions cause town guards to aggro you here?

Skeleton illusions gives you bad faction with some, increases faction with others. I know bards and I think clerics/paladins will attack you on sight. I'm not sure of all the benefits, but I know with AoN you can actually bank in places like paineel and cabilis.

[Dullah]

I plan to attend this event as an anonymous level 1 so I can receive a chance at free raid loot that other players had to farm planar gods for a year to obtain.

Oh ya, he mad.

ps <3 sirken. thx u for your time regardless

[Holey]

ps <3 sirken. thx u for your time regardless

Atleast we have someone doing events, not like blue for the last 2 1/2 years No events ;(

[Andis]

one request

make the fights so no one is able to use clickies

for fair fights

[Nirgon]

Yeah the skele illusion should absolutely give you "positive" (not kos) faction with some undead. I never personally tried it on live in Paineel.

As far as the raid loot.. does an AoN really matter that much to you? If it's hiding your name, yeah absolutely, a huge item. But it might bring up a higher pop... so... gotta take a lil good with the bad.

[Rettii]

Ender is just furious that after he flew to french canadia to give nizzar a blowjob for his AoN, others are getting via PvP

[Dullah]

Actually AoNs were given out in randoms and had nothing to do with who actually won any of the events.

and yeah Nirgon, AoN pretty srs business. Hides name, affects faction and so forth. Better rewards for such an event would be something like tinker or dragons bags.

[Nirgon]

Shoulda handed out gnome illusion items imo. But AoN is quite a perk to keep people excited for playing. I don't think it was too over the top but.. some room for grumbling.

Maybe if we can get item loot added, some dummy will leave theirs equipped and you can take it.

[Rettii]

Actually AoNs were given out in randoms and had nothing to do with who actually won any of the events.

:mad: so frustrating

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/770/256089-beerfest_frustrating_super.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuFVPR2Y-U

[Holey]

:mad: so frustrating

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/770/256089-beerfest_frustrating_super.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuFVPR2Y-U

wait till higher level pvp then youll notice.

[Rettii]

wait till higher level pvp then youll notice.

Lolol says the guy who joined box in December 2012

Have you figured out where pumice are sold yet? How about how to levitate?

Jeffd aka Mustard lvl 52 patchwork leather Druid 1
Holley aka Gream <Nihilum> lvl 60 vp and trak armor rogue 0

"if he didn't have levitate I would have won"

[heartbrand]

A rogue cannot kill a druid in an outdoor zone 1v1 it is impossible and if a druid allows it to happen he should delete his character instantly.

[Nirgon]

Wrong on that one, esp considering how many scrub druids dont have clickies let alone jboots here

[heartbrand]

Sow + Lev vs. Rogue in an outdoor zone with @ best jboots. Pumice is 3.5 seconds? Any druid can joust a pumice cast + stack buffs + clickies to make pumice worthless as they root the rogue and drop bombs on him. Waiting to hear how the rogue will beat the druid pal that doesn't involve golem wands, hoops and trak teeth 1 v 1.

[Nirgon]

I don't need a pvp play by play explanation from you man lol

It's hardly impossible

[SamwiseRed]

wands dont exist and people do not get the jump on anyone on this server

[Nirgon]

Result should be

Heartbrand: Rogue can't kill a druid outdoors
Nirgon: Yes they can
Heartbrand: I stand corrected

[heartbrand]

Waiting for you to demonstrate how 1v1 a competent druid can be killed by a rogue of any skill level in an outdoor zone on Project 1999 Red that doesn't involve trak teeth or the rogue finding the druid afk sitting down and backstab him. With lev + sow I'll just joust the rogue as I'm levved over the lava drop bombs on him, prolly root him first cast, and he'll never get a single pumice off on me and even if he does ill just clicky replace the buffs + easily have lev and sow in my 15th and 14th slots. The rogue will stand there staring at me unable to land a single point of damage upon me.

[Rettii]

Hb stop defending the obviously bad rogue with the highest level of resist gear and opportunities

Nihilum full of Third stringers for dragon meat shields

[SamwiseRed]

Waiting for you to demonstrate how 1v1 a competent druid can be killed by a rogue of any skill level in an outdoor zone on Project 1999 Red that doesn't involve trak teeth or the rogue finding the druid afk sitting down and backstab him. With lev + sow I'll just joust the rogue as I'm levved over the lava drop bombs on him, prolly root him first cast, and he'll never get a single pumice off on me and even if he does ill just clicky replace the buffs + easily have lev and sow in my 15th and 14th slots. The rogue will stand there staring at me unable to land a single point of damage upon me.

yea ofc in a 1v1 gm sanctioned raid buffed duel most likely shouldnt happen but who the hell rolls around raid buffed/full mana when they are casually grinding? like nirgon said alot of druids including myself do not have jboots. 1 wand and my lev/sow/skin is gone and they are up on my ass. if they have jboots well you are in deep unless you can juke away strafing.

only takes a couple of backstabs without skin and a druid is KO'd

[heartbrand]

When I had zibby still and I wanted to PVP it was easy to keep 15 buffs on, lev sow SLN were always my bottom ones, that is not very difficult pal druids get all the resist buffs + strength buff + regen + see invis + self thorns + de illusion + sln + lev + sow + reg ds + goblin clicky = ez 15 buffs.

If you get wanded you simply cheetah and leave the rogue behind where you can quickly adjust, most people aren't running around with one wand nonetheless two+. And again, this was about 1v1 without golem wands or trak teeth or the sort in a normal type of pvp setting aka both people have crim pots and pumice but nothing else rly.

[heartbrand]

Hb stop defending the obviously bad rogue with the highest level of resist gear and opportunities

Nihilum full of Third stringers for dragon meat shields

gream rolls around in pve gear which is part of the problem :(

[Nirgon]

I dunno Heartbrand. Maybe the druid just puts on thorns and stands still and the rogue clicks auto attack and backstab and the druid clicks his spells and keyboard turns and the druid always wins. Guess I'm wrong and it might come down to who is the better keyboard turner or clicker.

[heartbrand]

zzzz still waiting for you to explain some possible tactics a rogue could use 1v1 outdoors against a druid that doesn't involve the druid being afk and sitting or multiple golem wands pal

[Nirgon]

Will you be online tonight for clicking and keyboard turning lessons. I'm desperate for advice.

[heartbrand]

Nirgon still mad still bad still sad still out of touch still at a loss for answers, prolly thinks z-axis works here and you can hit people leved above you when in fact if the guy is leved even an inch off the ground attack usually fails. Still waiting on an explanation for how the rogue will win.

[Rettii]

gream rolls around in pve gear which is part of the problem :(

Thanks. You just acknowledged why Gream and te rest of the C stringers are scrubs. So why are you arguing with Nirgon and trying to teach us how to buff?

[SamwiseRed]

i already said it. you are assuming the druid is raid buffed/full mana/ and /whoing who ever 5 seconds. people get complacent bro. why is the druid outdoors? he most likely charming or quadding. either of which can be used again the druid should the rogue pumice charm/quad ect.

yes in a gm sanction duel where the druid is aware of the inc rogue and has full 15 buffs. then ofc it would be hard for the rogue to kill without wands.

[Nirgon]

Lol Heartbrand calling me bad.

Like a homeless person calling Donald Trump broke.

[heartbrand]

i already said it. you are assuming the druid is raid buffed/full mana/ and /whoing who ever 5 seconds. people get complacent bro. why is the druid outdoors? he most likely charming or quadding. either of which can be used again the druid should the rogue pumice charm/quad ect.

I didn't think the argument was about "can a rogue get a jump on a druid and kill him" because of course the answer is yes, I thought the argument was in a vacuum 1v1 can a rogue beat a druid outdoors and the answer is no. Obviously if you walk up to some druid in PVE and shit or he's medding not paying attention you can one round him pal not disputing that.

[Nirgon]

Rogue can't kill a druid at higher levels is the kind of stuff I'd quote and mock...

but you did turn on Nihilum and give us the dragon sploits, so I can never be too hard on you.

[heartbrand]

When I played Zibby I think I took two PVP deaths, once in Unrest where I got cut off by Hijinx and Oddjob and once in OOT when I was afk. I wasn't fearing big bad rogues pal. Druids are one of the best pvp classes in the game. If you encounter a druid or bard in a zone like OOT 1v1 you should cast gate if you dont have golem wands because you lost before the fight even started. Stop pretending like this is a game of immense skill when most of the time the outcome has been decided before the first spell has been cast.

[jeffd]

instead of your dumb hypothetical argument we can talk about specifics

* my druid has no clickies
* my druid is mostly naked
* gream neither pumiced my dot off himself nor tried to pumice my lev, presumably because he doesn't carry pumices

a good rogue like salem could definitely have made me gate, given those circumstances

luckily gream is no more difficult than an average npc

http://i48.tinypic.com/fcriu.jpg

[Nirgon]

Because its impossible to win right? Lol seriously.

No offense at all to you here, but if that was me on Gream you woulda plugged.

BTW check out how his druid has better gear than people on live ever did and hundreds of magic resist.

[Nirgon]

When I played Zibby I think I took two PVP deaths, once in Unrest where I got cut off by Hijinx and Oddjob and once in OOT when I was afk. I wasn't fearing big bad rogues pal. Druids are one of the best pvp classes in the game. If you encounter a druid or bard in a zone like OOT 1v1 you should cast gate if you dont have golem wands because you lost before the fight even started. Stop pretending like this is a game of immense skill when most of the time the outcome has been decided before the first spell has been cast.

Had 0 problems with druids.

Even ones with exploited (prenerf) mist walkers.

Yeah no skill in this game, why are some people terrible again? It's not skill, so.. hm.

[SamwiseRed]

I thought the argument was in a vacuum 1v1 can a rogue beat a druid outdoors and the answer is no. Obviously if you walk up to some druid in PVE and shit or he's medding not paying attention you can one round him pal not disputing that.

ah then im retarct my statement. i thought you were saying a rogue should never kill a druid in an outdoor zone period.

[SamwiseRed]

instead of your dumb hypothetical argument we can talk about specifics

* my druid has no clickies
* my druid is mostly naked
* gream neither pumiced my dot off himself nor tried to pumice my lev, presumably because he doesn't carry pumices

a good rogue like salem could definitely have made me gate, given those circumstances

luckily gream is no more difficult than an average npc

http://i48.tinypic.com/fcriu.jpg

bahahahahaha A+

[heartbrand]

instead of your dumb hypothetical argument we can talk about specifics

* my druid has no clickies
* my druid is mostly naked
* gream neither pumiced my dot off himself nor tried to pumice my lev, presumably because he doesn't carry pumices

a good rogue like salem could definitely have made me gate, given those circumstances

luckily gream is no more difficult than an average npc

http://i48.tinypic.com/fcriu.jpg

This same salem that I coined 1v2 where I coined him and a wizard while being in my PVE gear + having bad buffs + having <40 mana?

http://imageshack.us/a/img255/60/salemdown.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img152/8371/dekanedown.jpg

[Nirgon]

I'm sure he's tashed but I doubt he's dispelled and look, he's rooted. Nice.

Also notice Heartbrand having hundreds of magic resist 140+ as an enchanter.. oh wait hm.

[SamwiseRed]

I'm sure he's tashed but I doubt he's dispelled and look, he's rooted. Nice.

Also notice Heartbrand having hundreds of magic resist 140+ as an enchanter.. oh wait hm.

hes rooted but you have no idea what is mr was. lol?

[Nirgon]

It's a 3 way tie between Heartbrand, Samwise and Supreme for 1st place on the debate circuit

[jeffd]

heartbrand is really going out of his way to try and stand up for gream / make up strawman arguments

friendship is magic

[SamwiseRed]

It's a 3 way tie between Heartbrand, Samwise and Supreme for 1st place on the debate circuit

YOu dont have all the facts, you just make assumptions. how do you know dekane wasnt tashed and not wearing any mr gear? he would be rooted by classic standards too. you make no point.

[SamwiseRed]

log on and we can do root tests on my bard. i can easily switch my mr up from 70 to 80 to 90 to 100 and so forth all the way to 210 or so. lets get some empirical evidence before we take the he said she said bullshit as fact. you still talking about whirl proves you have no idea how resists are working on the server and your general assumptions that people are being rooted with MR gear in every slot shows you are spitting out hot air. look HB is pvping with 70ish mr as a chanter, you dont think people are wearing less lol?

http://imageshack.us/a/img152/8371/dekanedown.jpg

HB in full pve gear (dat 250 CHA!). how much you wanna bet dekane wasnt wearing the same shit or less? this isnt a bash at HB btw im just showing you that people arent rolling around with all resist gear, its just not happening bro.

[Nirgon]

I don't even know what your point is anymore.

You want to be able to root rested geared and buffed people.

It's retarded.

The end.

[Nizzarr]

Had 0 problems with druids.

Even ones with exploited (prenerf) mist walkers.

Yeah no skill in this game, why are some people terrible again? It's not skill, so.. hm.

When I did saw you in game, you either instantly gated from pvp or you were rolling with 6+ people trying to find solo targets. not sure if serious.

[SamwiseRed]

I don't even know what your point is anymore.

You want to be able to root people.

It's retarded.

The end.
ill break it down for you.

my point was 51 mr should not make you immune to CC. more like 90. i have 72 mr on my samwise without even trying (1 buff and one piece of gear)

also root isnt a problem in mass pvp and if you think it is you clearly havent been pvping.

classic resists werent balanced around the average gear a player has access here. especially when you consider a brand new player from blue can use his pp to twink himself out. basiah rollin around with close to 200 mr on his cleric. 51 is a joke.

[Nirgon]

Go ahead through the kill shot thread from back in the day.

Gated from PvP... not sure you ever looked for it lol.

[heartbrand]

In all fairness I have 70 here because chanters unlike most classes have to wear very specific gear to be effective when they solo, aka charisma gear. I can't keep up PVP gear and be able to hold charm on mobs, it also leaves me low mana and unable to keep grm up which has a short duration for its cost most of the time. Also, chanters are at another disadvantage by having their pve spell set be almost completely different from their PVP spell set (I don't have nukes up pve, no rapture etc). Nonetheless I dropped the bombs like the box emperor I am and got the kills.

[SamwiseRed]

But would you say 51 mr should make everyone CC immune considering a naked OOR bard with a drum can easily push peoples mr over 100? Nirgon isnt considering any factors other than its not classic. how much MR does checkraise have naked? the average player here would be considered a super twink back in the day.

[Rettii]

instead of your dumb hypothetical argument we can talk about specifics

* my druid has no clickies
* my druid is mostly naked
* gream neither pumiced my dot off himself nor tried to pumice my lev, presumably because he doesn't carry pumices

a good rogue like salem could definitely have made me gate, given those circumstances

luckily gream is no more difficult than an average npc

http://i48.tinypic.com/fcriu.jpg

Lol thanks for clearing that up - bad rogue doesn't know what or where pumices are. Pve gear dragon slayers taking long naps from naked Druids

[Sirken]

Atleast we have someone doing events, not like blue for the last 2 1/2 years No events ;(

Blue had halloween events, xmas events, new years event, and most of the BotB events.

[heartbrand]

I'm sure gream didn't have pumice but if you're a melee with bad mr ill just recast my root to land right after your pumice and you can't do shit.

[heartbrand]

Kinda like how Salem had pumice but ate a dirtnap regardless

[Rettii]

Even Sirken is shutting Gream down - this guy bout to rage quit get all the dropables off him ASAP Nizzar

[Nirgon]

Thread turned to shit not reading anymore.

Lawls.

[heartbrand]

Thread turned to shit not reading anymore.

Lawls.

Up next on ForumQuest nirgon explains how a rogue can easily kill bards outdoors using pumice

[Nizzarr]

Most of nihilum wont be at this event tonight.

We're not taking part of an event which is lead by old holocaust members, with 5 of them(holocaust members) on the sidelines afk waiting to be handed out AONs.

Have fun azrael!

[SamwiseRed]

Just formed another quick test anyone can replicate to prove me wrong.

First test at 148 MR (only 1 mr song) 9/10 roots resisted

http://i.imgur.com/A6Pn023.jpg

second test was 125 mr after being tashed. 9/10 roots resisted.

http://i.imgur.com/dWskWyR.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

90% roots being resisted at 125 mr. both times "first" root was resisted. i dont think resists are as broken as people are saying. this is the first time anyones posted pics of themselves having root chain casted on them with MR displayed.

[Combobreaker]

Most of nihilum wont be at this event tonight.

We're not taking part of an event which is lead by old holocaust members, with 5 of them(holocaust members) on the sidelines afk waiting to be handed out AONs.

Have fun azrael!

damn son go get a colonoscopy

[Nirgon]

Most of nihilum wont be at this event tonight.

We're not taking part of an event which is lead by old holocaust members, with 5 of them(holocaust members) on the sidelines afk waiting to be handed out AONs.

Have fun azrael!

Lead by old Holo members? Just real quick, who?

Second... I guess that means you won't be standing there trading starfires for ice comets tonight : ((((.

If I might add... spirit of cheetah is a good spell if you are in a pinch, so is nullify or annul magic.. both on yourself and others depending. I'd be happy to trade #1 EQ PvP secrets for #16th C&C3 secrets sometime, lmk.

90% roots being resisted at 125 mr. both times "first" root was resisted. i dont think resists are as broken as people are saying. this is the first time anyones posted pics of themselves having root chain casted on them with MR displayed.


Can we just chat about this at a later point man? Like not on the boards?

[Massive Marc]

nizzar so mad. hope sirken gives out AoN's to everyone that's there.

[SamwiseRed]

aite im all about chatting about balance tho not classic resists :)

[Nirgon]

Massive Marc you better watch your filthy mouth, Nizzar will pull you into a wall bro.

He's that. Damned. Good.

[Massive Marc]

Massive Marc you better watch your filthy mouth, Nizzar will pull you into a wall bro.

He's that. Damned. Good.

/rewind only works 50% of the time !!!

[Nirgon]

You won't be so smug when your head is through the ceiling and you can't make a line of sight check, dirt bag

[Tippett]

To be honest I'm just happy for the people who got AoN's

Not like it hurts me, just my 2 cents

[jeffd]

Most of nihilum wont be at this event tonight.

We're not taking part of an event which is lead by old holocaust members, with 5 of them(holocaust members) on the sidelines afk waiting to be handed out AONs.

Have fun azrael!

here's a chance to expand your ESL vocab

pet·u·lant
/ˈpeCHələnt/
Adjective
(of a person or their manner) Childishly sulky or bad-tempered.
Synonyms
testy - pettish - peevish - irritable - cantankerous

[Rettii]

Most of nihilum wont be at this event tonight.

We're not taking part of an event which is lead by old holocaust members, with 5 of them(holocaust members) on the sidelines afk waiting to be handed out AONs.

Have fun azrael!

Hahahahahaha


Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Twain]

I was planning on going, but my niece keeps winning her basketball games. Semi Finals tonight so I must continue my cheering! She scores half the points and get 70% of the rebounds, INC WNBA.

[fiegi 2.5]

wait sirken is old holcaust?? Am I missing something? who is running this event?

[Nizzarr]

here's a chance to expand your ESL vocab

pet·u·lant
/ˈpeCHələnt/
Adjective
(of a person or their manner) Childishly sulky or bad-tempered.
Synonyms
testy - pettish - peevish - irritable - cantankerous

Noun

nonfactor (plural nonfactors)

Something which is not a factor, or does not play a significant role

[Cwall 52.0]

wait sirken is old holcaust?? Am I missing something? who is running this event?

[Cwall 52.0]

fyi nizzar sirken has banned my forum accounts at least 30 times and permabanned me 3 times in-game so i dunno what you're talking about you crybaby faggot

[Andis]

the post-event massacre on nihilum was a grand ol' time

i hope that happens again

[Nizzarr]

the post-event massacre on nihilum was a grand ol' time

i hope that happens again

We'll be in sky, see you there

[Andis]

thanks for the heads up

[Massive Marc]

PS: 6EST is brutal for any mid or west coasters. I suppose most people don't have a job that play here anyway... carry on.

[SamwiseRed]

PS: 6EST is brutal for any mid or west coasters. I suppose most people don't have a job that play here anyway... carry on.

i quit my job today for a chance at some sick lewts.

[Rettii]

We'll be in sky, see you there

Read: we are fagats and will be raiding PvE on a PvP box during a PvP event

[Massive Marc]

i quit my job today for a chance at some sick lewts.

sorry not trying to be a dick ,but 90% of the people on west side get off work at 7est+ (4pst+) drive home, grab a drink, take a shit and sit down to play some EQ, its about 8est (5pst).

6est = 3 pst = most people still at work.

[Rettii]

Oh fuck ur right I thought it was PST wtf Sirken

[Nirgon]

I *MIGHT* sign in and you guys can chase me around

[SamwiseRed]

u need to be 52 + jeje

[Hughman]

Most of nihilum wont be at this event tonight.

We're not taking part of an event which is lead by old holocaust members, with 5 of them(holocaust members) on the sidelines afk waiting to be handed out AONs.

Have fun azrael!

Sirken watched and policed holocaust probably more than any other guild on VZTZ, just a heads up. Figures you wouldn't want any part in an event that promotes pvp and thereby server health.

[Nirgon]

Like someone won't come right at me

Hughman what's up big cat. I was backin' you on day one but you got some beef with the gang.

You should log in and put Heartbrand ta sleep.

[hagard]

Most of nihilum wont be at this event tonight.

We're not taking part of an event which is lead by old holocaust members, with 5 of them(holocaust members) on the sidelines afk waiting to be handed out AONs.

Have fun azrael!


smilin' hard as hell

[Sirken]

PS: 6EST is brutal for any mid or west coasters. I suppose most people don't have a job that play here anyway... carry on.

i say 6pmEST because it takes a while to get started, and it allows late night euros to maybe partake in the first couple, while people getting home from work can trickle into the later events. we can work with the times in the future if everyone feels thats needed.

[Hughman]

Hughman what's up big cat. I was backin' you on day one but you got some beef with the gang.

Everquest dramas, I don't hold anything against anyone from events that may, or may not have happened on vztz. I wouldn't have joined Holocaust in either event at that time though, I had fun in original Nihilum.

[Vile]

i like big hughman

[Rettii]

Don't worry Nirgon, me and Hughman are the chosen ones coming back to cleanse the land like the book of revelations prophesized. You should log on and bite the resists bullet and join us. Hopefully the holo pals don't burn out and we can dine on the first born during Passover.

[Massive Marc]

i say 6pmEST because it takes a while to get started, and it allows late night euros to maybe partake in the first couple, while people getting home from work can trickle into the later events. we can work with the times in the future if everyone feels thats needed.

is cool, i just figured excluding 2 times zones was a little much. 5:30pm pst > 6:30 mnt > 8:30 est.

Is 8:30pm est too late ?

[nerfed]

Quit complaining. Shit's going down 1pm my time.

[Nirgon]

Heartbrand did try to call me bad. Might have to give him his come uppins at least once to teach him a lesson.

Also as a show of good faith to Sirken and Nilbog who are box heroes and pals.

[Rettii]

Quit complaining. Shit's going down 1pm my time.

Obvious corruption excluding nerfed

[Andis]

i say 6pmEST because it takes a while to get started, and it allows late night euros to maybe partake in the first couple, while people getting home from work can trickle into the later events. we can work with the times in the future if everyone feels thats needed.

just tell me clicky wands are a no-go

andis is sick of being wanded

[Kraftwerk]

just tell me clicky wands are a no-go

andis is sick of being wanded

I have like 8 golem wands, conflag wand, full hoop and I hacked the server to get a Trak tooth.

I'm gonna waste someone before I even spend mana.

[Dullah]

Sirken watched and policed holocaust probably more than any other guild on VZTZ, just a heads up. Figures you wouldn't want any part in an event that promotes pvp and thereby server health.

Prior to around March last year, I never even knew Sirken was an active guide/gm. What? Helped with Holo???

Not sure how giving out free raid loot via /random in a game as pve-centric as EQ helps pvp. I mean, not even as reward to the winners - just randomed. Theres pvp every day. You could pvp 24/7 if you wanted to. Playing the server, participating in any form helps server health and promotes pvp.

[Tippett]

why does it bother you though, how does Chopper having an AoN hurt you?

[Hughman]

Not sure how giving out free raid loot via /random in a game as pve-centric as EQ helps pvp. I mean, not even as reward to the winners - just randomed. Theres pvp every day. You could pvp 24/7 if you wanted to. Playing the server, participating in any form helps server health and promotes pvp.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=825102&postcount=1

[Rettii]

Destin can't read cus his vision is blurred by tears

[Dullah]

Retti top 3 maddest poster on these forums. Generally his lol equates to him frothing with rage.

I guess I'd be pretty mad too if my much boasted pvp prowess resulted in videos like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rjKenQAhEFg

[Nirgon]

Whoever bought Sneet already took an xp loss coming at me.

Sirken, I hope you didn't res him with that summon. I earned that shit. We'd be off to a terrible start. Perhaps you noticed him hammer out of the event immediately. Don't get suckered by these cowardly bums.

[KabanazyTZ]

NEW CHAMPION OF STEAMFONT BOW DOWN BITCHES

[KabanazyTZ]

I should also get something for being last wizzy standing in both ffa and captain match :(

[Holey]

GG, had a good fight everyone.

[KabanazyTZ]

gream chase dat 55 wiz moar plox :D

[Sickpuppy]

bump was fun big dog andis hid in the tree had full hp/ mana .. and i was oom and at 30% all i am going to say

[SamwiseRed]

andis betrayed me but good fight anyway lol.

[Tomatoking]

this thread is for pics and bragging only

no crying about loot

[Sirken]

Andis hid next to the tree, any body could have easily seen or hit him without so much as tilting their heads. i saw it, was aware of it, confirmed no foul, just play better.



Thank you everyone for coming out. we fraps and / or stream these events and we believe they are good for the server. that said, it only works when players and staff work together. and i know most of you have big plans to raid things, so i appreciate you guys taking the time to show up.

<3



Big Congrats to Andis, our new Champion of Steamfont!

[Maelzai]

What Sirken said, I saw Andis the whole fight and somehow i didnt get targeted till prob last 5-6.
Gratz Andis, you where prob the only person that i didn't try to fully dispell :)

[SamwiseRed]

i saw andis medding by tree too. i cant attack a fellow halfling when there are other races on the field, too bad he didnt feel the same lol

[Rettii]

stupid fucking movie crashed as i finished and got ruined delaying upload =x

[Nizzarr]

While we appreciate the time and energy spent making these events, we would like a few issues addressed before I can commit my guild for the next one.

First and foremost, is the exp loss and how GM rezzes arent giving any of that exp back. The more fights there is in a night, the more glaring this issue becomes. While I understand the exp loss is there to stop bind rushes and what not for the sake of the pvp, I think fixing the GM rez so that it would give exp back would make it more enjoyable for everyone in that event. We had people lose up to a yellow bubble in 59 last night, thats a good 5 hours of grinding.

Second, we would like to see a firmer stance on the spectators PVP'ing. While some people follow the set rules you've put in, some other malicious people take advantage of their non-combativeness. This leads to a chain of event where people retaliate and all hell breaks loose. DT's are thrown left and right, without much regard to who was right or wrong. This and the exp loss makes for a frustrating event. While I'm sure you've seen the problem first hand, maybe hire a spectator referee with a death touch ability to keep people in check.

Thirdly, I would like to see you fully dispel participants in any 1v1, 2v2, 6v6, give everybody full mana and give them a ~2-5 minute buffing period. Disallow outside of group buffing and this would lead to more accurate and funnier fights. This would make buffing classes more attracting and less QQ would be had overrall.

We're quite happy you're doing these events, even though I partially boycotted this last one, we hope theres more and that those issues above will be fixed.

[SamwiseRed]

between this event and last one ive lost about 40% xp :) 2 deaths while watching events at the hands of nilly and 1 by a DT for hailing Walk on top of the deaths i got from participating. im about to lose 52 bros! halp!

[Bamzal Sherbet]

Quit complaining. Shit's going down 1pm my time.

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/If+you+re+having+girl+problems+I+feel+bad+for+you+ _d0c4374bb44e3e72e76d755a14f5d7a0.jpeg

[Tycko]

These fights seem like a good idea, but bad execution. But I was not at the event, so maybe the posts don't properly describe the event. Was hoping to see retti's video.

[nabsev]

Partially boycotting pvp events. Lol

[SamwiseRed]

ye nizzarr said his guild wouldnt be there. I guess most of them did not get the memo.

[Rettii]

These fights seem like a good idea, but bad execution. But I was not at the event, so maybe the posts don't properly describe the event. Was hoping to see retti's video.

I had technical difficulties, but its uploading to youtube now and will be live in about 90minutes

I had to chop 30 gigs of footage into 15minutes of pleasure and didnt get to bed until 3am - up at 7 for work yay

i do this for u scumbag community now i demand a server wide power level to make up for it

[Holey]

Andis hid next to the tree, any body could have easily seen or hit him without so much as tilting their heads. i saw it, was aware of it, confirmed no foul, just play better.



Thank you everyone for coming out. we fraps and / or stream these events and we believe they are good for the server. that said, it only works when players and staff work together. and i know most of you have big plans to raid things, so i appreciate you guys taking the time to show up.

<3



Big Congrats to Andis, our new Champion of Steamfont!

Thanks for another event!

[Andis]

ya lol nihilum confirmed at the event ... nizzar leadership -10

[Nirgon]

People want free AoNs more than they care about what you think. Every Nihilum online but you was there when I checked. How'd that sky raid go?

[Kraftwerk]

Second, we would like to see a firmer stance on the spectators PVP'ing. While some people follow the set rules you've put in, some other malicious people take advantage of their non-combativeness. This leads to a chain of event where people retaliate and all hell breaks loose. DT's are thrown left and right, without much regard to who was right or wrong. This and the exp loss makes for a frustrating event. While I'm sure you've seen the problem first hand, maybe hire a spectator referee with a death touch ability to keep people in check.

With great reluctance I will accept the role of Audience Referee with the ability to death touch. I will not let the Nihilum members get off as easy as they did last night for PKing audience members and event participants from their perch in the stands.

I understand that with great power comes great responsibility and will use these death touch powers justly.

[Rettii]

I understand that with great power comes great responsibility

this man seems legit, just something about him

[Nirgon]

Just fight back and win. People will learn not to touch you.

[Sirken]

treeforming in middle of battle field = DQ'd
hiding up a tree on the edge of battle field = win

if there was a tree in the middle of the field, and none of u noticed, shame on you.

nobody was "up" in a tree. Andis was on the ground, positioning himself between the tree and the other combatants. had they moved a lil closer to the akanon side, they would have seen him when he turned around.

some people did try to hide in trees, i pulled them out when they tried. was only 2-3 people and they did not win anything.

ruling = no foul.



While we appreciate the time and energy spent making these events, we would like a few issues addressed before I can commit my guild for the next one.
~gets pen and paper to take meticulously accurate notes in an effort to please lord Nizzar~

First and foremost, is the exp loss and how GM rezzes arent giving any of that exp back. The more fights there is in a night, the more glaring this issue becomes. While I understand the exp loss is there to stop bind rushes and what not for the sake of the pvp, I think fixing the GM rez so that it would give exp back would make it more enjoyable for everyone in that event. We had people lose up to a yellow bubble in 59 last night, thats a good 5 hours of grinding.
GMs can't rezz XP back. you play on a server where pvp deaths cost xp and can't be rezzed back. nothing i can do on that. xp is so retardedly easy on red, i honestly can't believe this is even an issue for you. i'm sorry that my event will force you to spend 5 hours grouped with your friends and guildies in practically any dungeon of your choice grinding some mobs for xp.

Second, we would like to see a firmer stance on the spectators PVP'ing. While some people follow the set rules you've put in, some other malicious people take advantage of their non-combativeness. This leads to a chain of event where people retaliate and all hell breaks loose. DT's are thrown left and right, without much regard to who was right or wrong. This and the exp loss makes for a frustrating event. While I'm sure you've seen the problem first hand, maybe hire a spectator referee with a death touch ability to keep people in check.
People need to use their big boy words. spamming the name of a player doing bad things does not tell me whats happening. all it does is tell me you are spamming my screen and that you need to die. i can easily #freeze the spectators, which would literally force them to do nothing but sit their asses down and watch. the audience pissed me off last night as well, but i only have 1 set of eyes, and i had to watch the event over the crowd. i tried to hire a ref for some 1v1s last time, and your guild cried GM favoritism because i didnt pick a person from your guild. if there was other staff on, they would have been there, but there was no one around at the time. and as i've said in other past threads, its not exactly easy getting qualified people that want to be a staff member on Red99.

Thirdly, I would like to see you fully dispel participants in any 1v1, 2v2, 6v6, give everybody full mana and give them a ~2-5 minute buffing period. Disallow outside of group buffing and this would lead to more accurate and funnier fights. This would make buffing classes more attracting and less QQ would be had overrall.
i asked everyone about mana multiple times for each event. if you somehow missed that, its on you. some of your guildies heard me offer and received full mana. closed mouth does not get fed. we can do a buff period, thats no prob. i was skipping it because these events can go on all night, and i only had a 4 hour window, every minute counts. but buff period is no prob. i agree 100% with no outside buffs. but its hard to control 60-70 people that are all not listening and doing as they please. but you are still 100% right on that, and i will try to get extra help to assist with enforcement. a simple #freeze on the non fighters will take care of this as well.

We're quite happy you're doing these events, even though I partially boycotted this last one, we hope theres more and that those issues above will be fixed.
just an FYI, if you boycott the events, you are hurting the players, and the server, you are not in anyway hurting me, or the staff. there are people in your guild (and the other guilds) that enjoy the hell out of these events. and filming/streaming these events bring more people to the server. but by all means, if you would rather not have new players trickling in, or would rather not have old players returning, or would rather not allow your people a break from the daily grind, or would rather the GMs don't try to do nice things for you, then by all means boycott the event.

But one thing i will not do is let you try to take an event hostage and then demand a ransom or else you'll kill it. sadly for you sir, we don't negotiate with terrorists. and your attempts at using the fear of the event failing due to your boycott in order to get some stuff that you want is, in my mind, a form of terrorism.

that said, thank you for coming, and i hope you and your guildies had lotsa fun! will see you guys next time!

[Nirgon]

Oh he's hurting the players and the server. First time for everything.

[SamwiseRed]

Sirken just laid the smackdown

[heartbrand]

An easy fix to the spectator issue is doing this in the arena and locking the arena door on the outside only allowing participants and the guy filming it inside.

The exp loss issue is a big issue and really needs to be addressed please, if you could bring it up with Nilbog or Rogean. All it does is make people not want to PVP, particularly on melees. It's hard enough to get people to want to grind @ this point of Kunark, healers never on, etc. No one wants to sit and grind mobs for five hours to make up for two pvp deaths, I don't get the logic in it. Bind rushing doesn't work for melees because they have no gear and casters pop with zero mana. EXP loss dum and not classic.

Not a fan of the FFA, but /shrug no biggie, would still like to see a melee only event though and a caster only event.

I liked the smaller playing field this time so A+ for that, made the event A LOT better than last time.

As far as the 6v6 goes, the teams were pretty unfair, no bard for Azrael, etc., I like these 6 v 6 fights and would be interested in seeing maybe a 6 v 6 tournament, like four 6 v 6 teams instead of the original two teams, and have the two winning teams face off. I think the 6v6 tournament could be a fuck load of fun. I think they are a much bigger show of skill than the 20 v 20 zerg fest.

[SamwiseRed]

For the first time in a year I'm starting to hate xp loss.

[jeffd]

literally started laughing out loud when i read nizzar's long-winded temper tantrum

[heartbrand]

I guess the issue is, with classic, the blue bubble that was lost @ 50 for PVP death was a minor inconvenience, you noticed it but it wasn't a big deal that you had to dwell on and worry about grinding to make it up, it was something that was recouped without even thinking about it. However, post 51+ EXP is much more difficult, and in 60 since it's a post hell level you take double EXP loss, which means you're losing around almost two blues for a death, which take much longer to grind back than it did in 50. So what was once a pretty acceptable penalty for dying in classic is now a huge pain in the ass, and accounts for more gate pots and pussyness!

I hear you on the ToT, I still think tho the 6v6 is the most fun of the events we've been doing but I dunno how others feel on that, and I'd like to see more of them and maybe move away from the Azrael vs. Nihilum where it's just not a level playing field and make four captains that choose their teams and get to do it out, maybe replace the opening team v team with that? Anyone else's opinion on this?

[Sirken]

I guess the issue is, with classic, the blue bubble that was lost @ 50 for PVP death was a minor inconvenience, you noticed it but it wasn't a big deal that you had to dwell on and worry about grinding to make it up, it was something that was recouped without even thinking about it. However, post 51+ EXP is much more difficult, and in 60 since it's a post hell level you take double EXP loss, which means you're losing around almost two blues for a death, which take much longer to grind back than it did in 50. So what was once a pretty acceptable penalty for dying in classic is now a huge pain in the ass, and accounts for more gate pots and pussyness!

I hear you on the ToT, I still think tho the 6v6 is the most fun of the events we've been doing but I dunno how others feel on that, and I'd like to see more of them and maybe move away from the Azrael vs. Nihilum where it's just not a level playing field and make four captains that choose their teams and get to do it out, maybe replace the opening team v team with that? Anyone else's opinion on this?

so u got use to death being meaningless and without consequence? :P

as far as ways to mix up Thursday Night Fights - i'm all ears.

this event is only for you guys, not for me. so anything that will make it more fun for the players, i'm all ears

[mwllowyellow2]

so u got use to death being meaningless and without consequence? :P

as far as ways to mix up Thursday Night Fights - i'm all ears.

this event is only for you guys, not for me. so anything that will make it more fun for the players, i'm all ears

Want more items to be given away so ender can keep boycotting the event lol. QQ out

[Sirken]

this thread is for TNF discussion and ways to improve it

i dont want to see your tears about how to fix the server, thats way outside my domain.

please dont troll my thread.

[heartbrand]

I mean, I wouldn't say it was meaningless, if you died enough times you would start to feel the sting. I guess what I'm trying to say is I understand the position that death should have a "consequence" I'm just not sure the current consequence is of appropriate risk v reward ratio, particularly in the PVP event where in events like the FFA everyone except one WILL eat a death. In normal PVP scenarios you can zone / gate / pot, etc. An easy fix would be making rez restore EXP. /shrug

Regardless, it's great to see you take interest in the server and attempt to do cool things, week one was good, week two was better, and I'm sure the event will only continue to improve as it goes on, trying to be constructive here because I do think the event is great for the server, which is why I'm mentioning the EXP Loss, I've heard MANY people bitch about it, I've yet to really even be affected by it personally because again with my chanter exp is ez mode lol status, but I know at least two people who told me they weren't coming due to it. We can lol and call them pussies / faggots or whatever you like, but once the risk is so great that people refuse to engage in PVP because of it then I think it has become excessive.

p.s. I've now been on hold for two hours and ten minutes, FML

[mwllowyellow2]

I know some of the people didn't really want to pvp in the event due to if you died your 100% rez did not work.

[Sirken]

I know some of the people didn't really want to pvp in the event due to if you died your 100% rez did not work.

tell them to clean their vaginas and be men about it

[mwllowyellow2]

Your comments continue to make me smile hard as hell

[mwllowyellow2]

Also was thinking should probably give the winner of the title of each event a nice award along side the title imo

[Sirken]

Also was thinking should probably give the winner of the title of each event a nice award along side the title imo

to be fair, 2 weeks ago, i announced in the thread there would be lots of prizes. and yesterdays thread made no mention of prizes.

i wanted to kick off the first TNF with a big bang. but lets be real buddy, i cant give out the same stuff every time. that would be dumb.

[mwllowyellow2]

No I totally agree with you i just think the winner of the final event that took place for the title should get a prize not everyone that won in the 6v6 1v1 teams. Those prizes where good 5 potions of illusion. Just think the title should come with a nice prize to.

[Nirgon]

You can still gate out of the fight to avoid xp loss if you're a caster or flee the arena and be DT'd by Sirken.

Look at the big brain on Nirgon.


PS: I didn't show up for lewts but I tried to get my hands in there. C U next time.

[Proverbs28]

ya lol nihilum confirmed at the event ... nizzar leadership -10

lol @ nizzar deciding things for his guidlies.

dude nihilum guys i warned about this a year ago

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=553246&postcount=1

[Tr0llb0rn]

Thoughts:

-PvP events in Steamfont are not classic and requires a bunch of artificial rules about "boundries" and "buildings" and "kos NPCs" and "trees" ,etc.

Classic PvP events held in The Arena. Less lag, easier to view the gladiators, easier to film the event, etc. And if this is done partly for publicity, the nostalgia of pvp events in The Arena is moreso then an altered steamfont noob ground with a bunch of giant DE guards in a square formation and a wildly out of era beholder thing as the camera man. Keep it Classic.

-Server is small enough to have a much less structured and hassle free organic type pvp event. Just spawn a NPC in an easy to get to location (eastcommons?etc) with some prize on it. Give said NPC a LOT of hps but low DPS. Maybe put a timer on said mob. Nihilum gets a prize if they kill the mob before it "completes its ritual and escapes or wtf ever", the non-nihilum get prize if they succeed in delaying the destruction of said mob and allowing it to "escape"

Classic "organized army" (nihilum) vs. "guerrilla warriors" (everyone else who has wet dreams about hit-and-run combat). Half of Nihilum (or whatever the largest force is online that is assigned the goal of "killing the creature") will be tied up with bringing down the NPC, the other half fighting off the delaying tactics of the "guerrilla warriors".

Just seems much more simple, organic, and fun then "lets all pick teams for a hour, then assist train some". A ton less headache for staff too.

No more talk about removing xp on pvp death, Sirken is right in that xp is FAR too fast and easy on this server. Brokenly so. Game/era/immersion/system breaking so and should be looked at/into.

[Andis]

No I totally agree with you i just think the winner of the final event that took place for the title should get a prize not everyone that won in the 6v6 1v1 teams. Those prizes where good 5 potions of illusion. Just think the title should come with a nice prize to.

I totally agree, and I voiced my opinion with Sirken

winner of the final pvp event should get an item of choice!

[Nirgon]

How about the prize is an illusion of their choice but they only keep it as long as they have the title, sounds like the smartest idea

Also, I believe there's code in place to copy/paste for NPCs to react differently to players holding certain items

Not classic but this box needs to keep its pop rising and until that time, little things to help it along can be done

Once above 300 or so, less non-classic shite

[heartbrand]

How about the prize is an illusion of their choice but they only keep it as long as they have the title, sounds like the smartest idea

Also, I believe there's code in place to copy/paste for NPCs to react differently to players holding certain items

Pretty cool idea, also non game breaking. I'm not a fan of items of considerable power being handed out, apart from the winner of some huge BoTB type tournament.

[Nirgon]

Wait till you see the 1 hander big Ssok (http://ralloszek.stephans.org/rz/playerhistory.php?player_name=Ssok) won for winning the ToT (RZ reppazent)

[Sirken]

https://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=95643

link for last night!

[Proverbs28]

Thoughts:

-PvP events in Steamfont are not classic and requires a bunch of artificial rules about "boundries" and "buildings" and "kos NPCs" and "trees" ,etc.

Classic PvP events held in The Arena. Less lag, easier to view the gladiators, easier to film the event, etc. And if this is done partly for publicity, the nostalgia of pvp events in The Arena is moreso then an altered steamfont noob ground with a bunch of giant DE guards in a square formation and a wildly out of era beholder thing as the camera man. Keep it Classic.

-Server is small enough to have a much less structured and hassle free organic type pvp event. Just spawn a NPC in an easy to get to location (eastcommons?etc) with some prize on it. Give said NPC a LOT of hps but low DPS. Maybe put a timer on said mob. Nihilum gets a prize if they kill the mob before it "completes its ritual and escapes or wtf ever", the non-nihilum get prize if they succeed in delaying the destruction of said mob and allowing it to "escape"

Classic "organized army" (nihilum) vs. "guerrilla warriors" (everyone else who has wet dreams about hit-and-run combat). Half of Nihilum (or whatever the largest force is online that is assigned the goal of "killing the creature") will be tied up with bringing down the NPC, the other half fighting off the delaying tactics of the "guerrilla warriors".

Just seems much more simple, organic, and fun then "lets all pick teams for a hour, then assist train some". A ton less headache for staff too.

No more talk about removing xp on pvp death, Sirken is right in that xp is FAR too fast and easy on this server. Brokenly so. Game/era/immersion/system breaking so and should be looked at/into.

poster has great idea. i have another one

Regicide Pvp -

i think a regicide event, in which Nizzar / Lite / Chewie ???are the targets. and guild vs guild pvp and you have to protect you "king" so to speak.

a great zone for this i feel would toxxuilla forrest

each team could get one of the islands (paineel side - nihilum, erudin side- azrael , non-guilded / flowers / she18 / kerra island side.
t
apon losing your king, everyone on that team is out, and benched .

i think this would be fun, regicide my fav map style in Age of empires 2.

just a thought

[heartbrand]

Eh that sounds like a bunch of hiding and not a lot of fighting. What I think would be a bit cool would be team v team in a large zone setting where after losing X amount of players or captains the other team wins. This still allows some of the "hunting down" aspect while avoiding a five hour search for one dude hiding in the water fight.

[Proverbs28]

winner could be called

Emperor of Box, or King of Box, or some lame ass roleplay title.

apon being killed pvp, your tag would switch to the person who killed you.

it would be an on going event after that.

maybe the "king" of the box" could have some special privileged on server (nothing gamebreaking)

could Mounts / horses be summoned for the event to have the "kings" of each team ride apon?

maybe the KING of the box, gets a mount? (no regen or speed increase, just looking like a flamboyant mo fo)

just thoughts from a stoned eqer'

[Nirgon]

Arzak needs to not address people who actually help the server with statements such as "you have bad ideas" or "this is fail", especially when people start logging in again.

Take notes young fool and please don't quite that drool cupping jergoff anymore.

[Nirgon]

BTW is that "organized army" all going to show up again when told not to do so? I guess if AoNs aren't going to be handed out again, they will "listen".

[Proverbs28]

yeahbut tox aint THAT big.

every team would have druids, bards, and rangers able to track.

hiding / ambushing / maneuvering would be what the events about.

also. could make RARE mobs with awesome items spawn in center of zone (near the two bridges / druid rings) that would force people to contend each other.

[mwllowyellow2]

Thanks for the video retti and thanks for the fun sirken

[KabanazyTZ]

Teams being fair is not up to me, its up to the guilds. if Azrael didnt have a bard, they should try to recruit some bards. however this tournament you are referring to is known as the "Test of Tactics" and that will be coming after the Red BotBs.


We have three active bards actually, and I believe only lite has the gear to be competitive. However the event was early enough in the day (and I'm not attacking you for this Sirken, I know you have your reasons for setting the time where it was and I still <3 you for the event) that our bards hadn't even gotten home yet I believe as they are usually all on daily.

Was kind of disappointing at the start of the event because azrael didn't have lite or andis present during the captains match and we had no idea if they would be there in time for the 6v6 or not.

In terms of ideas to improve these events I have sadly been suggesting similar ideas to heartbrand's in our teamspeak (coincidence? teehee). Caster event and Melee event is effectively the most balanced way to do it before class botbs. Bards would obviously get stuck in the caster event as their melee is pitiful and do most of their work with their songs and the melee would never be able to catch a bard.

Another thing in terms of the free for all, in the first even nihilum were organized and downed key azrael targets early on. In this event we called out key nihilum targets to drop so that we would get a 2nd person in the championship (was supposed to be sickpuppy but big Andis came through big in the end). I don't think there is any way to stop the big guilds from teaming up in this way, making the FFA not quite as fun or exciting as it should be.

I like the captain event the way it's set up, however if there had been a 2nd tstaff monk present our team probably would have been wiped out. Mellow was made a captain instead of dekedenz and tune was given first pick, thus locking the only 2 bards onto one team (near unbeatable advantage if they had a tstaff monk). I'm aware of everyone saying we were bitching about that too much, but if we hadn't had the only tstaff monk on our team, it might have gone much different (though i'm honestly not sure since they didn't seem to have organized targetting at all). I just really feel that bards should be split up, especially with the current state of the tstaff proc.

If I think of any more to add I'll be sure to let you know.

And big love to Sirken for throwing these events, that was a lot of fun and I can't wait for the next one.

[KabanazyTZ]

Also, thank you to retti for the video. I wish you caught gream chasing me when I was that low though! Sucks I didnt even realize nothxu was still up, I decided to harvest because we called a taget swap to gream and I knew he wouldn't be on me in that time frame :(

[Proverbs28]

Thanks for the video retti and thanks for the fun sirken

[Andis]

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[SamwiseRed]

not sure if it works on red but on live you didnt lose xp in arena areas. like FP arena you wouldnt lose xp death on sz.

[Nirgon]

Interesting there Sam. I never stepped into the actual pvp arenas on SZ.

I did do a few player run Neriak PvP events. You wanna talk about a small arena :P.

[Sirken]

I just really feel that bards should be split up, especially with the current state of the tstaff proc.
but but but.. i thought the bard team (Innys team) lost?

[Rettii]

but but but.. i thought the bard team (Innys team) lost?

Word

[SamwiseRed]

sirken am i credited for the inny vs ct illusions or did you already have that in mind? great mind think alike.

[Nirgon]

Best lesson to take away from all this:

Staff and development attention are a sure fire way to keep interest and gain new interest in the server. Worth stating the obvious.

[Dacuk]

Best lesson to take away from all this:

Staff and development attention are a sure fire way to keep interest and gain new interest in the server. Worth stating the obvious.

+1

[heartbrand]

O Rogean, Rogean, wherefore art thou Rogean?

[Proverbs28]

u can coin loot in arena on this server i dont know if u lose xp tho

[Nirgon]

Skilled players don't kill people, wizards kill people.

Risking a troll here.

[SamwiseRed]

if you dont lose xp in pvp enabled areas (arenas) mite be worth it to relocate.

[SamwiseRed]

i thought root killed people

[Rettii]

Best lesson to take away from all this:

Staff and development attention are a sure fire way to keep interest and gain new interest in the server. Worth stating the obvious.

[heartbrand]

O Rogean, Rogean, wherefore art thou Rogean?

[Nirgon]

People say red is a shit fest, but in the early days when Rogean was handling raid disputes and coding... I mean you wanna see a piss and shit fest lol.

He's probably just a bit burned out from that.

However, there's really no good games on the horizon.. so...

Then again I heard word of a Star Wars MMO xpac so you might be doomeded.

In any event, I'd take a non response on any task delegations as an "OK do it"... HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT.

[SamwiseRed]

downloading poe. better not be a waste of 5 gig

[heartbrand]

Coming from someone who actually played SWTOR a bit, the new expac is a joke, it's more like a LOY type add on except half the content.

[SamwiseRed]

i dont even remember what LoY did cept for maps and spell slot saves.

spell slot saves....

ermg


gib

[KabanazyTZ]

but but but.. i thought the bard team (Innys team) lost?

But but you ignored the entire paragraph before what you quoted me on :(

if there had been a 2nd tstaff monk present our team probably would have been wiped out. Mellow was made a captain instead of dekedenz and tune was given first pick, thus locking the only 2 bards onto one team (near unbeatable advantage if they had a tstaff monk). I'm aware of everyone saying we were bitching about that too much, but if we hadn't had the only tstaff monk on our team, it might have gone much different (though i'm honestly not sure since they didn't seem to have organized targetting at all).

If there was a 2nd tstaff monk, tune would have picked dekadenz first to lock the bards, mellow would have picked bronkus/nizzar, then tune would have picked the one left.

We maybe still could have pulled it off just because of how uncoordinated their team seemed to be. For example, I ate a sunstrike from Dekane about 30 seconds into the battle when nobody else was on me, they weren't assist targetting and we were.

But on equal footing with equal coordination our team would lose. The power in the tstaff right now in combination with bard speed is unparalleled. The ability to give a monk that kind of mobility with a 13 second stun proc is too much to deal with in most situations.

[Nirgon]

146 fire at even level should make sunstrikes bounce off you like shooting BBs at a tank.
+10 required per level lower than wizard.

I *had* to use lures on people risking their resist gear on live.

Unsuspecting non-tanks in no drop were a sunstrike + ice spear laugh fest.

I could also cast through walls all the way into Velious. Which was pretty dumb considering.. but too many walls in dungeons. The good middle ground is completed casts should finish. But .... classic must be achieved.... and another reason why I don't think tstaff was that hideous to have in game. Nice lil offset der.

[Andis]

if you allow the tstaff proc to proc like it does

at least lower the duration to like 5 seconds, not 12 jesus

[Nirgon]

Let all casters cast non bolts through walls if this tstaff stuff is getting too outta control. It is actually classic.

[SamwiseRed]

all i know is casting line of sight on this server is beyond not classic. such a pain in the ass when a pebble the size of a penny will block my cast from going thru.

[SamwiseRed]

its like normal nukes are being treated like bolts and bolts are treated like regular nukes.

[Nirgon]

Right and because I know classic is too much for people, started spells could finish regardless of LoS.

Water should be fixed, cobalt scar pvp immersion will be ruined.

[SamwiseRed]

ye some places are so retarded to pvp in without lev because of the LOS on this server. S Ro near druid rings, lavastorm, ect. its dum when im 90% done channeling a nuke and all a melee has to do is get one of his toes over a hill and out of my LOS for the spell to get blocked. :(

[KabanazyTZ]

Right and because I know classic is too much for people, started spells could finish regardless of LoS.

Water should be fixed, cobalt scar pvp immersion will be ruined.

Not to mention water makes quadding a bitch in some areas. There are several areas in kunark where you can apparently wall cast. For example I caught skank in the dreadlands and chased him into the fv tunnels where i was able to cast through walls and made him plug at 17%.

I'm not quite sure what your sunstrike comment was about in all honesty though. 146+ fire resist isnt exactly to attain without sacrificing magic resist in turn. The only people able to attain resists like that are the pvers known as Nihilum. And if you were referring to me eating a sunstrike, I'm 55 and have 72fr :P

[SamwiseRed]

i can heal anyone in the house in unrest from the 2nd floor. its kinda wierd being able to cast thru the floors.

[heartbrand]

Right and because I know classic is too much for people, started spells could finish regardless of LoS.

Water should be fixed, cobalt scar pvp immersion will be ruined.

lol'ed @ the thought of there ever being PVP in cobalt scare or velious @ all for that matter. My bluebie side is super pumped for velious, but let's be honest, if resists ever become classic here the game is over forever. We in Nihilum will be walking around with a minimum of 150+ in all resists just from raid gear alone non buffed and be impervious to everything except lures.

[SamwiseRed]

lol'ed @ the thought of there ever being PVP in cobalt scare or velious @ all for that matter. My bluebie side is super pumped for velious, but let's be honest, if resists ever become classic here the game is over forever. We in Nihilum will be walking around with a minimum of 150+ in all resists just from raid gear alone non buffed and be impervious to everything except lures.

watch out we got a badass over here

[Sirken]

sirken am i credited for the inny vs ct illusions or did you already have that in mind? great mind think alike.

i was gonna use elementals or imps. but i liked your idea better ;)