Thursday Night Fights!

[heartbrand]

watch out we got a badass over here

Just trying to point out that while MR needs to be fixed as movement impairment spells are way too OP, a straight classic system for resists on this server will basically be the swan song for an opposition that is made up primarily of pure casters.

[Nirgon]

but let's be honest, if resists ever become classic here the game is over forever.

I'm not going into reasons for this here but, I wouldn't be terribly worried what gear you guys had.

Also, tell me why despite gear I see pretty much gearless players bagging players in your guild?

Let's be honest, if this was really entirely in your favor, you wouldn't be saying anything or you'd be for it.

Defense rests.

(PS let's make it classic)

[Rettii]

Take it to resist thread

[Sirken]

if you dont lose xp in pvp enabled areas (arenas) mite be worth it to relocate.
i would be sad, but i would agree

i thought root killed people
i bet it does on LoZ or new VZTZ (zing)

...Then again I heard word of a Star Wars MMO xpac so you might be doomeded...
i thought the SWToR xpac was the homosex planet?

i dont even remember what LoY did cept for maps and spell slot saves...
god damned gukta player race i thinks !!

But but you ignored the entire paragraph before what you quoted me on :(
did not. :p

If there was a 2nd tstaff monk, tune would have picked dekadenz first to lock the bards, mellow would have picked bronkus/nizzar, then tune would have picked the one left.

We maybe still could have pulled it off just because of how uncoordinated their team seemed to be. For example, I ate a sunstrike from Dekane about 30 seconds into the battle when nobody else was on me, they weren't assist targetting and we were.

But on equal footing with equal coordination our team would lose. The power in the tstaff right now in combination with bard speed is unparalleled. The ability to give a monk that kind of mobility with a 13 second stun proc is too much to deal with in most situations.
well, sometimes life isn't fair. but that's why its both A) good to be champion, and B) very important to get as many players there as possible so each side has a close to equal split of the powerhouse classes ;)

Right and because I know classic is too much for people, started spells could finish regardless of LoS.
Water should be fixed, cobalt scar pvp immersion will be ruined.
i lived in OOT on live before i was shunned and exiled by my server to the land of Odus. i know for 100% dropping under the water as randomcaster started his nuke was a surefire way to not get hit by that nuke. i would then spring out of the water, click my lev ring, and scars of sigil (2secnukeFTW) that caster before i dropped back under the water. OOT immersion :(

[Rettii]

Sirken just RnF'd Rogean I think

[Nirgon]

Sirken points:

#2 @ sam - yeah i bet it does now. if im green lighted to have anything to do with it, it will be classic (aka make sense).
#3 @ me - don't know, don't care!
#7 @ me - Yep exactly and its very classic, plus it adds dynamic to the fights and no one really complained about it.. it was just part of the game. It absolutely needs to be reverted. I want to log in and play something that matches classic EQ as close to possible. We need to stop trying to balance shit, or decide how things should work or not. I'm also a caster and this is something that would effect a player like me the most. However, I'm sticking to my guns and I know what will make the server a success... which is... once again for posterity:


log in and play something that matches classic EQ as close to possible


Stop trying to turn this into WoW or some shit. People've tried to beat WoW by copying it, it ALWAYS fails. Go play WoW, its balanced, there's no item loot, death penalties are very minimal, PvP is quick, easy and painless to find. You would probably really enjoy that if its what you want.

[heartbrand]

Incoming Nirgon ban in....

[Nirgon]

Not happening broseph. Sirken hasn't jumped at me once yet and when he does, I'll leave it be.

I know you're wishin' for it!

[Bamzal Sherbet]

Thoughts:

-PvP events in Steamfont are not classic and requires a bunch of artificial rules about "boundries" and "buildings" and "kos NPCs" and "trees" ,etc.

Classic PvP events held in The Arena. Less lag, easier to view the gladiators, easier to film the event, etc. And if this is done partly for publicity, the nostalgia of pvp events in The Arena is moreso then an altered steamfont noob ground with a bunch of giant DE guards in a square formation and a wildly out of era beholder thing as the camera man. Keep it Classic.

-Server is small enough to have a much less structured and hassle free organic type pvp event. Just spawn a NPC in an easy to get to location (eastcommons?etc) with some prize on it. Give said NPC a LOT of hps but low DPS. Maybe put a timer on said mob. Nihilum gets a prize if they kill the mob before it "completes its ritual and escapes or wtf ever", the non-nihilum get prize if they succeed in delaying the destruction of said mob and allowing it to "escape"

Classic "organized army" (nihilum) vs. "guerrilla warriors" (everyone else who has wet dreams about hit-and-run combat). Half of Nihilum (or whatever the largest force is online that is assigned the goal of "killing the creature") will be tied up with bringing down the NPC, the other half fighting off the delaying tactics of the "guerrilla warriors".

Just seems much more simple, organic, and fun then "lets all pick teams for a hour, then assist train some". A ton less headache for staff too.

No more talk about removing xp on pvp death, Sirken is right in that xp is FAR too fast and easy on this server. Brokenly so. Game/era/immersion/system breaking so and should be looked at/into.

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[Vile]

wall of text....

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i read his wall of text since you quoted it (i have him on ignore still), but i totally agree with tr0llborn for once...

[Sirken]

Nirgon, did u quote yourself and then flame yourself?

or are u implying that we are trying to turn R99 in to WoW?

either way, i lol'd in RL

[Nirgon]

Heh heh heh.

I'm a tough critic on myself and won't answer that question directly.

Point bein'... go to the WoW boards and look at all the people offering their suggestions to change a game they refuse to learn.

I ran some VERY non-standard arena comps over 2k (arms warrior, frost mage, shadow priest to 2336 or 2335 in season 2), which in the grand scheme isn't majorly impressive (well that rating in s2 for that comp is), but way better than most dopes ever hope to achieve.

EQ had a system that extremely veteraned players learned to respect and it does work. It has pain, unfairness etc especially in PvP. But its a PvE game too. Things that happen as a result of getting raid targets or that just happen in PvP out of the blue changed things greatly and unexpectedly. Personally? I think the game itself: lore, character building, social interaction, economy etc is so good you can overlook all the cry baby 1v1 this class vs that class stuff. You can beat some classes in certain situations and others you can't. Location, having mobs aggro, getting the jump or even just viability in 6v6... 20v20.. 1v1.

Here's just a single point to consider:
Your class "sucks" in PvP. OK. Now consider your classes is needed, even if its just one of that class, on raids. Even though you suck and think its pointless to play the class, you STILL have to show up for the raid and contest your content. How well you play your "bad at pvp" class still matters greatly and dictates the outcome of said raid pvp. Personally? No class is bad at PvP in my book. Some are better in certain situations, some have simple weaknesses to exploit while others seemingly (to some) have no weaknesses.

[Prince]

need pl

[heartbrand]

need pl

[Graahle]

need pl

I could actually use one.

[Prince]

m2 dude but everyone too busy camping ice bear cloak for their 9th alt instead of help promote new player

[Sirken]

QQ :( QQ

/comfort

[SamwiseRed]

bra... you DQ'd me based on what Savah told you. Savah shouts NW gated when I only used invis and you just took his word lol.

ACTUALLY use the rules you set next time if you want people to keep coming to these.

you say one thing and then enforce the other rofl.

you shut your whore mouth.

[Jenni D]

not read all 28 pages but Pier's (nizzar) e-threat actually had me lol'ing. jesus christ. full immersion. full unemployment!!

[Nirgon]

Ya, name like Pierre, turn in your man card bro

[Tomatoking]

nirgon that smile is disgusting and i dont want to see it anymore. if its there next time i come here ill eliminate you with a furious forum block

[Nirgon]

Think you can hide my sig some how in the forum settings, figure it out.

If you got click view post when you wanna see what I wrote going forward, knock yourself out.

[heartbrand]

Nirgon man that sig is disturbing seriously plz remove

[Rettii]

thats where all the big dragon raid commands come from

[Prince]

m2 dude but everyone too busy camping ice bear cloak for their 9th alt instead of help promote new player

[Proverbs28]

thats where all the big dragon raid commands come from

the mouth of sauron

could use a tooth brush...

just sayin

[jeffd]

i had to use chrome's adblock to prevent myself from ever seeing those rotting teeth ever again

straight up looks like something you'd see in a medical textbook

[Salem Orchid]

had to put on block no hard feelings but no loss either really.

[Tomatoking]

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