Sona Carry

[Hasbinlulz]

I made them cry so hard. We were about to take their base when they SA 26.

http://i.imgur.com/DmMN4.jpg

In draft too. Also, before you say it, all the kills were either solo 1v1 or 1v2 me against their 2, or a random rush where I play all the chords to save the group.

Fuck widdit.

[Hasbinlulz]

draven was my adc, so, lol. 7 kills 19 assist with 32 kills total. FUCK WIDDIT IS WHAT I'M SAYIN' Y'ALL.

[OforOppression]

Shit game for shit ppl


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[Hasbinlulz]

we completely shut down premade tf soraka duo on bot.. hellalarious

[patriot1776]

99% of TF's feed and cause team to lose

[Hasbinlulz]

http://i.imgur.com/3SJ8c.png

[OforOppression]

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[Peekae]

Negative w/l and ad TF obviously super shitter bracket of normals just sayin

[OforOppression]

still using heal/clarity

[Pico]

im not following

what makes u think anyone anywhere ever would care about this

[OforOppression]

hey dredge,
i found a place where you can post

http://www.reddit.com/r/loseit

[Verenity]

Terrible w/l ratio

[49shadesofgay]

http://i.imgur.com/5tUTX.png

:o Nice Sona bro

[Doors]

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[Hasbinlulz]

im just learning haha i bought her 2 days ago

[49shadesofgay]

I will teach you how to carry, grasshopper.

http://i.imgur.com/2y1gb.png

[OforOppression]

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[Hasbinlulz]

carry with sona lol

[patriot1776]

so far all ive seen is bads

[FoxxHound]

Seems legit.

[Hasbinlulz]

Or you could say.....Hasbinbads!!!!
sick burn

[feriokun]

Hasbin. If I could make a few suggestions as a seasoned Sona player. Drop warmogs... You already can heal a ton with W and the extra HP aren't good because you shouldn't be tanking damage anyway. Follow your carry and get in some good pokes/ults but NEVER find yourself in the middle of the fray. Rush Aura items and items with active abilities. (your team will LOVE you) For instance... Mikael's Crucible has an active BIG heal that you can pop on your carry to compliment your small heals. Locket of the Iron Solari give you HP (not as much as warmogs but still decent) and pops a damage SHIELD on your entire team if they are close enough! It can turn teamfights around in conjunction with you ult (or without it even). Also, unless someone else is going to build it, you should ALWAYS try and get Aegis of the Legion and Bulwark as either #2 or #3 item on your list. Also, for the much needed HP, Ruby Sightstone will give you enough. The Runic Bulwark (Upgrade from Aegis) actually gives you enough armor and Magic Resist that is far outclasses warmogs in defense, AND gives your entire team defenses.

As for summoner spells... Get Flash and Heal, or Flash and Exhaust. The reason for this is that when you are level 1, you can get plenty of hp/mana sustain with a 0/9/21 (taking the extra gold and gold on hit from utility tree) and having your starter items be: Crystalline Flask, Health Potions x2, sight wards x3. This will give you an early vision lead so that you won't fall to ganks.

Sona has great Poke early game and drops off late game even if you build AP like you are. She's much more effective procing those aura items and just making her team that much tougher by being around. Not to mention that AMAZING ult.

For runes I suggest Magic pen marks, flat armor seals, and flat magic resist glyphs with gold per 5 quints.

Feel free to ignore this but I have rarely lost with Sona keeping these things in mind. You do need a good carry, but even without AP items you can still do some great damage and assist the team better.

[49shadesofgay]

There's some good advice in here, but there's also some bad stuff.

The rune setup is pretty good, and I reccomend it. There are some variations to it you can try. I'm a fan of swapping out armor yellows for gold yellows, and picking up armor reds, especially with no more HoG, and let's face it you're probably not going to be picking up Kage most games. It depends on the lane of course, but there is definately a lot of room to try different Mark/Seal combos.

The starting items bit isn't useful anymore. Since patch Flask cost has increased by 120 gold and isn't really an autobuy anymore. I would go the old traditional route of Fairy charm, wards, pots.

Crucibal active is "alright" but it's really outclasses by locket and shureliyas actives. Those are the 2 support items, besides aegis youre going to want to rush. If you for some reason just have tons of gold and can get a Crucible by all means do it, but focus on getting your core of: boots, aegis, shurelyias, locket.

Don't bother wasting 1050 gold on upgrading Aegis to Runic unless your team needs the extra MR. You'll find in a number of games that aegis to be just fine.

The biggest thing somebody new to Sona can do to really get good at her beyond building correctly and poking/sustaining through abilities is to learn what her autoattacks are going to proc based on what she's playing, and then using them accordingly.

[49shadesofgay]

Oh, and unless Riot pulls their head out of their ass soon and fixes oracles, or the enemy support is just going balls to the wall crazy with wards in your own jungle, don't bother with buying oracles. Just pick up some pinks and tell your top or jungle to grab oracles, they can afford it.

[Hasbinlulz]

first of all, ty for the advice

is the shield on archangels not any good? I've been advised that archangels is probably the best single item, then work with some defense and hps.. I like the extra coz it gives me the ability to clear a wave without hurting towers or creeps.. i can also tank towers while the damage goes in.. it works out really well if the team picks up on how i play..

I started taking the flask on shen a bit but then heard they were nerfing it so stopped when i starting playing sona a lot. right now i take a fairy charm, 3 wards, and 3 mana pots (taking W first always).. when i go back i finish the tear and then prioritize boots and red eye. At that point, I start looking at hps, and to my knowledge warmogs is the most efficient hps?

as far as runes, im using CDR seals and glyphs and health on marks .. have only T1 quints atm for sona, those are health.. i plan on getting the run speed quints

my build is all about mana regen, CDR, and a huge pool of mana and hps so i can constantly cast and teamfight at the same time.. Works REALLY well sometimes when I get a good crew, but without that it's not so good with random pugs i think

i always try and counter jungle around level 12-14 in prep for baron..

[Hasbinlulz]

the redeye alone isn't enough hps for the way i play right now

[Hasbinlulz]

but .. im not shooting it down, more like asking you to critique what i'm saying and relate it to what you're saying :)

[Hasbinlulz]

also i have been taking flash exhaust more lately but i think flash clairvoyance is where i need to be.. i'm working really hard on vision control and controlling the enemy vision as well

[Hasbinlulz]

it's hard as fuck to keep an adc alive and keep vision decent on bot side while also trying to ping the enemy adc and it's support, which is usually a lot more tanky and disably than me, while also trying to think about sona's power chords and shit.. but i'm getting better at it.. i actually started using the +damage one recently, and i have used the slow several times trying to get away, but it's only worked once.. i need to work on the -damage one for enemy dps for sure tho.

[Hasbinlulz]

also i dont build towards AP, just that some of that stuff happens to have it.. i'm really trying to maximize cdr and mana regen

[OforOppression]

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[Hasbinlulz]

Double post.
TRIPLE post.
QUADRA post!
PENTA POST!
SEXTA POST!!
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[Hasbinlulz]

god damnit u ruined my streak

also i just got accepted to dota 2, but shit looks so fucking complicated and im just starting to learn all the LoL heroes heh.. I know im just gonna get shit on in dota2 for a year before i ever get any good.

SIGH

[Hasbinlulz]

i started moba on HoN, never played dota..

[OforOppression]

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[Psionide]

Really shouldn't bother with anything but DOTA2.

[OforOppression]

Really shouldn't bother with anything but DOTA2.

i liek u

[Llodd]

Really shouldn't bother .

[Hasbinlulz]

just played first two games.. graphics are really poorly done in this game, they could have got more detail for less hardware.

[OforOppression]

just played first two games.. graphics are really poorly done in this game, they could have got more detail for less hardware.

...what?

You're kidding right? The game runs smooth on my fucking ultrabook. Graphics look way better than LoL. It's going for an artsy look.

[OforOppression]

you're telling me this (url because its a huge pic) (http://dota2talk.com/pics/news/dota2_screen2.jpg) looks worse/runs worse than LoL/HoN

[Psionide]

you might have to tweak your settings on your comp.

[Psionide]

O let me ask you? Is drow truely OP? Not even close right

[OforOppression]

windrunner best hero no contest

[Psionide]

support or carry windrunner

[OforOppression]

depends on team comp, usually support

[Hasbinlulz]

I didn't compare the graphics of dota2 to any other game. I commented on the quality of the graphics without regard to anything else. They look cheeseball and busy. They could have spent more on the art director and less on the tech heads who put all the whirlygigs and gizmos to spinning on your screen while you're trying to play a damn game. Also, the shit doesn't zoom out enough, and zooming in is dumb.

Seems like a fun game tho, i like bounty hunter, but thats only one of three champions i've used.

[Hasbinlulz]

it's almost like they started out to make it look realistic, got halfway through, realized how impossible that would be and how nobodies computer would run it, and so said fuck it and made everything an indistinct blob.

[Hasbinlulz]

gameplay seems faster paced than lol or hon, and harder to last hit by far.. i also havent seen any teamfighting yet, so i cant really judge the game itself, just commenting on how it looks.

[Hailto]

Please stop playing these bad games HBB.

[feriokun]

first of all, ty for the advice

is the shield on archangels not any good? I've been advised that archangels is probably the best single item, then work with some defense and hps.. I like the extra coz it gives me the ability to clear a wave without hurting towers or creeps.. i can also tank towers while the damage goes in.. it works out really well if the team picks up on how i play..

I started taking the flask on shen a bit but then heard they were nerfing it so stopped when i starting playing sona a lot. right now i take a fairy charm, 3 wards, and 3 mana pots (taking W first always).. when i go back i finish the tear and then prioritize boots and red eye. At that point, I start looking at hps, and to my knowledge warmogs is the most efficient hps?

as far as runes, im using CDR seals and glyphs and health on marks .. have only T1 quints atm for sona, those are health.. i plan on getting the run speed quints

my build is all about mana regen, CDR, and a huge pool of mana and hps so i can constantly cast and teamfight at the same time.. Works REALLY well sometimes when I get a good crew, but without that it's not so good with random pugs i think

i always try and counter jungle around level 12-14 in prep for baron..

If you're going for pure CDR, you'll find Soraka a much better champ. Sona doesn't need that much CDR to still be effective, but Soraka with enough CDR can just be amazing. Just something to think about.

[feriokun]

first of all, ty for the advice

is the shield on archangels not any good? I've been advised that archangels is probably the best single item, then work with some defense and hps.. I like the extra coz it gives me the ability to clear a wave without hurting towers or creeps.. i can also tank towers while the damage goes in.. it works out really well if the team picks up on how i play..

I started taking the flask on shen a bit but then heard they were nerfing it so stopped when i starting playing sona a lot. right now i take a fairy charm, 3 wards, and 3 mana pots (taking W first always).. when i go back i finish the tear and then prioritize boots and red eye. At that point, I start looking at hps, and to my knowledge warmogs is the most efficient hps?

as far as runes, im using CDR seals and glyphs and health on marks .. have only T1 quints atm for sona, those are health.. i plan on getting the run speed quints

my build is all about mana regen, CDR, and a huge pool of mana and hps so i can constantly cast and teamfight at the same time.. Works REALLY well sometimes when I get a good crew, but without that it's not so good with random pugs i think

i always try and counter jungle around level 12-14 in prep for baron..

Also Archangels shield is fine and all... But as a squishy character do you really want to try making her a tank to tower dive?

Let the tank do that, or if you want to play an AWESOME support/tank, get Leona man... You won't regret it. In the right hands she can easily turn the tides of any game. Plus, you can and should build more tanking/AP.

[Hasbinlulz]

My build for Sona is well suited to tanking towers mid to late game with high hp and mana regen and cdr spam of W. The kicker is that most people are exactly like you, and do not fucking expect it. I also like getting focused (easy target) and being able to survive.

But.. I play her because I like the character concept and especially the arcade skin, not because she is OP. The secret of LoL is that every character is OP in the right hands.

[Hasbinlulz]

I am definitely not a passive support in any case. I harrass the fuck out of bot lane and keep my adc farming. Even if they have massive early game push, i can usually stop them at the tower. My wave clear is really bad, but that's pretty much her only weak spot. With the staccato power chord i can hit someone fairly hard (once, maybe twice), and crescendo is an awesome KS tool. ;)